Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

David Gregory does not think it's his "job" to "debate the President"

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:01 AM
Original message
David Gregory does not think it's his "job" to "debate the President"


He said this on Hardball
"There's a lot of critics ... who think that, if we did not debate the president ... if we did not stand up and say, this is bogus, and you're a liar, and why are you doing this, that we didn't do our job. And I respectfully disagree. It's not our role."

We discussed it here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=3998940&mesg_id=3998940


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
islandmkl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:11 AM
Response to Original message
1. now...dancing with neonazis, that is a different matter entirely...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
leftchick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:14 AM
Response to Original message
2. I thought that was obvious
to the ** pResident. I imagine he will change his tune with Obama.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:18 AM
Response to Original message
3. He's not the only pundit who thinks like this.
Fact checking is somebody else's job, they say. Just give Cheney the mic and let him go. The pundit is not to interfere, except to bring coffee and doughnuts and occasionally nod in agreement. It is the responsibility of Democrats to expose the lies in some other forum.

One problem with that is if you help perpetuate lies, you yourself are a liar.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 07:22 AM
Response to Original message
4. As is commonly the case with media criticism, Greenwald was all over it....
Edited on Mon Dec-08-08 07:26 AM by BlooInBloo
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2008/05/29/yellin/

People like Williams, Gibson and Gregory don't need to be told to refrain from reporting critically about the war and the White House because challenging Government claims isn't what they do. And amazingly, they admitted that explicitly yesterday. Gibson and Gregory both invoked the cliched excuse of the low-level bureaucrat using almost identical language: exposing government lies "is not our job."

Brian Williams, Charlie Gibson and company are paid to play the role of TV reporters but, in reality, are mere television emcees -- far more akin to circus ringleaders than journalists. It's just as simple as that. David Halberstam pointed that out some time ago. Unlike Yellin, Donahue and Banfield, nobody needed to pressure the likes of Williams, Gibson and Russert to serve as propaganda handmaidens for the White House. It's what they do quite eagerly on their own, which is precisely why they're in the corporate positions they're in. They are smooth, undisruptive personalities who don't create problems for their executives. Watching them finally describe how they perceive of "their role" leaves no doubt about any of that.



But a couple of days ago, the most wonderful instance if hypocrisy took place:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/12/02/campbell-brown-obamas-thi_n_147698.html?page=9&show_comment_id=18589831#comment_18589831

But this isn't just about the media. It's about the American people, many of whom voted for you because of what you said during the campaign. And they have a right to know which of those things you meant and which you didn't. Apparently, as you made clear today, you didn't mean what you said about Hillary Clinton.

So, what else didn't you mean? The media is going to be asking. And you were wrong today. Annoying questions are about more than just the press having fun. Annoying questions are about the press doing its job and the people's right to know.



Mrs. Brown: Fuck you, you lying piece of shit. You're just picking on the Democrat like you and your worthless profession was too scared and complicit in protecting when they were republicans. Go to hell you jackass.



EDIT: hahahah! I said basically the same thing in the 3-months-ago post the OP linked. Well at least I'm consistent. :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:16 AM
Response to Reply #4
8. [Gregory, et.al.] ... "far more akin to circus ringleaders than journalists."
I love that = "Circus Ringleaders" works for Williams, Gibson and Gregory.

Oooh, show us the Lions (Iraq) and Tigers (Iran) and Bears (N. Korea), Oh My! :P
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:47 AM
Response to Reply #8
13. "Hey Rocky! Watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!"
"Again? That trick *never* works."


= WMD.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PrEkbIHlV1E
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:41 AM
Response to Reply #4
10. This truth bears repeating.


Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 11:49 AM
Response to Reply #10
14. :)
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:07 AM
Response to Original message
5. I'll bet David changes his tune once a Democratic President is in office.
You, David Gregory, are typical of the problem the media has today. You don't report the full story. You interview people, allow them to lie or make statements that aren't completely true, and you let them get away with it. And by doing so, you create the impression that what they said is factual.

We are near the end of 8 years of the worst administration in the history of our country. And much of what has happened has been allowed due to the media looking the other way and/or covering up the crimes/abuses/lies of the Bush Administration.

I rarely watch Meet the Press, and will certainly NOT watch it going forward. It's very apparent which side your bread is buttered on, and I'm certain the ratings will take a hit because of this choice.

I do hope the Dems address the issues in the right leaning media, which allows corruption and crimes to go unchecked by public servants who are Republicans.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:09 AM
Response to Original message
6. Then what IS your role?
And I mean that for the incoming as well as outgoing administration.

If the press won't be holding feet to the fire, then who is supposed to do that?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Lasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #6
12. They are mere television emcees -- far more akin to circus ringleaders than journalists
BlooInBloo nailed that quite well upthread.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:11 AM
Response to Original message
7. David Gregory is an asshat. Who says meet the press will be relevant any longer? I think people
are sick of him and if meet the press has 3 viewers will it still be broadcast?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 08:21 AM
Response to Original message
9. It's your primary role if you're a Journalist you tool David
Which is why I have never accused him of being one.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 10:45 AM
Response to Original message
11. Weasel in the hen house.
Don't watch meet the press and will continue not to do so.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Thu Dec 26th 2024, 08:14 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC