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NickB79 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:21 AM
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So, what happens to personal debt in a hyperinflationary economy?
Say the US undergoes a hyperinflationary economic decline over the next year. If I had $20,000 in debt now, what happens to it when the dollar's value drops? If my pay scales up to match inflation, wouldn't I owe far less the more hyperinflation sets in? Or can debts be scaled up too to match?
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Recursion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:25 AM
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1. Well, see, that's the good news
For current debt holders inflation is great. The problem is that taking on additional debt becomes very expensive.
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Chan790 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:26 AM
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2. You know, I have no clue...
my best guess is that anything with an adjustable rate will see a corresponding rate increase, but if you could time it right you could pay off your debt fairly early on in the hyper-inflationary cycle.

This is why I'm glad all my debt is fixed rate. 13,000 may not buy a loaf of bread in two years but it'll pay my student loans in full.
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gravity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:26 AM
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3. The problem is that recessions are deflationary
Just to add fuel to the fire
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:27 AM
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4. In my lifetime, pay has never caught up to inflation
and that's not even the inflation they've been lying about being so low for so many years.

However, that $20,000 debt would have crippled you financially in 1950. These days, it's a nuisance to pay off and will take many years to do so, but it is doable.

That's what inflation has done.
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murielm99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:46 AM
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6. Yes. Think about it. Debt in 1950...
My parents took out a $10,000 loan to buy a house. It was a big deal.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:44 AM
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5. Any inflation means you pay off the debt in cheaper dollars...
and is a key reason debt is a great idea a lot of the time.

Problem is if you don't have enough of those cheaper dollars in the future. Hyperinflation means your current weekly paycheck buys a loaf of bread-- this is just one of the many problems in Zimbabwe right now.

(It's also been a past problem in Argentina and other SA countries, and of course, Germany and other parts of Europe during the Depression)



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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 01:55 AM
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7. You get to pay your debt off in dollars that are worth far less
Not a bad deal if you owe a lot of money now.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 02:22 AM
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8. If I owe 25,000 in student loans, and inflation is 1000 percent, I could be making $100/hour quick.
At such pay rates, I could pay off my debt extremely fast.

Unfortunately, in such an environment, a loaf of bread could literally cost 40 or 50 dollars. You can imagine what other food items could cost as a result.
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KillCapitalism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 02:38 AM
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9. Well hyperinflation is a double-edged sword for debt-holders.
Let's say you're $100K in debt & make $50,000 a year right now.

Hyperinflation kicks in & you now make $50,000 a week, so the $100K in debt seems like small potatoes. Problem is now a gallon of milk costs you $4,000.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 03:14 AM
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10. Hyperinflation makes debts owed into worthless paper
That's why we won't be seeing hyperinflation.
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Trajan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 03:38 AM
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11. Deflation is more likely ...
And is in fact existent today ....
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 03:40 AM
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12. Any degree of inflation
favors net borrowers.
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-09-08 04:32 AM
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13. You'd be free.
Unless the creditor is able to increase the rate of interest on your debt to keep up with the inflation.
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