"If you've done nothing wrong, you shouldn't mind being investigated".

[Philosoraptor]

Where o' where have I heard that before?.... Oh yeah, the patriot act spying on citizens.

I assume this doesn't apply to those who consider themselves above the law, and refuse to answer questions under oath.

[Epiphany4z]

1. I think that is how

Some of Bush's own followers truly think ...it's simple and all black and white to them. I think this will split the last of his supporters.

[salin]

3. nah - they just create mental boxes to shove inconvenient realities

in and wait for rush and faux to give them a rationale they can use to justify why its okay for bushco to investigate everyone without cause, but avoid, obfuscate and outright lie when they are being investigated.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

5. I agree

there's another thread here about an AOL poll that shows only 18% say that Rove & Miers shouldn't testify---but 33% say that they think it is political dirty tricks on the part of the Dems--that means about 15% of these Kool Aid drinkers still think Rove & Miers should testify.

[maine_raptor]

2. Philo, my bro, welcome back.!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ya, I've been humming that tune since the petulant child was on the boob tube last night.

[NNN0LHI]

4. Hope you enjoyed your vacation

Glad your back though. Had me worried.

Don

[Hubert Flottz]

6. GTSYB!

Let's see how they like Special Agent Melvin Pervie, sneaking and peeking in their windows.

If the GOPers need so much "FLEXIBILITY" to thwart anything, why are they all on Bob Dole's Blue Pills?

[opihimoimoi]

12. Them Blue Pills are for STIFF UPPER LIPS......???

[Hubert Flottz]

22. America knows that they've been stiffed with a flexible Dick and

Bush!

America ain't gonna' stand still for it anymore!

[opihimoimoi]

47. As I Type, Tony Snow is at the presser and LYING HIS ASS OFF

HE is building a stone wall and we all know what happens to them walls when TRUTH and REASON shows up with them TREB UNITS...

Even the GREAT WALL OF CHINA got breached...

[Hubert Flottz]

52. Tony is the worst of the lying Bush mouth pieces yet...

A walking piece of shit!

I'd love to see the whole crew in orange jump suits breaking rocks with 12 pound beaters, on the Dry Tortugas, or Devil's Island. Someplace with millions of starving, blood sucking, dull beaked, shit eating, skeeters, as big as horse turds.

[Sherman A1]

7. Thanks!

for the reminder of that phrase.... It of course depends on who's ox is being gored.

[Zywiec]

8. While I agree with your sentiment in this case

I can't help being reminded of the police tactic "If you have nothing to hide, you won't mind us searching your car, house, etc.".

I've been showing my children the ACLU video called Busted: a citizen's guide to dealing with the police. They and I stress never voluntarily give up any of your rights. I tried this tactic during a security clearance interview with someone from DSS a couple years ago. They were not happy, but since my interview was not mandatory, they couldn't force me.

[opihimoimoi]

10. Its in the National Interest we get to the TRUTH.....Big Diff

[Dr Fate]

37. Let Rove or Bush make that excuse. n/t

n/t

[EstimatedProphet]

9. I think this is our chance to turn things back on them

The repigs were saying all along that we shouldn't mind being monitored by police, and if we did we must be hiding something. So, if they aren't willing to be investigated, doesn't that mean by their own logic that they are hiding something?

[annabanana]

11. And what's wrong with promising to tell the truth with an Oath if

you are not planning to lie your ass off?

[WinkyDink]

13. "Fishing expedition"? Oh, yes: The round-up that sent even teens to Gitmo.

[Lint Head]

14. This is a true statement if the following is true.

A crime is suspected or committed and there is some evidence leading to to resolution of that crime then a subpoena is appropriate.
In this case many obvious crimes have been committed by this administration.
What are they afraid they might say under oath? :dem:

[Zywiec]

15. I just have a disagreement with the statement

"If you've done nothing wrong, you shouldn't mind being investigated".

It rings badly in my ears for some reason.

[WinkyDink]

16. Because it's Fascist?

[Zywiec]

18. Thank you

I'm glad I'm not the only one. I hate police and government intimidation. My children are still in their teens, but we've practiced what to say to the police if they want to search them, their car, or our house. The ACLU has a great video with different scenarios to teach citizens about their rights.

[Bunny]

17. If it's ringing badly to you, it can't be because it's a new phrase.

We've been hearing it for the last six years.

[Jonathan50]

26. I heard the phrase decades ago...

That particular meme is nothing new to the right wing, I can remember hearing it in the 70s.

[Bunny]

30. Well, no shit. I've been around a while myself.

But it has been exceptionally prevalent in the past six years, and I am enjoying seeing it being thrown back in the right wing's face.

[havocmom]

43. Heard it in the 50s too... Tailgunner Joe

Anytime citizens insist we have rights, some fascist punk gang pulls that line.

Guess paybacks are a glitch for the junta boys.

[havocmom]

42. Yep, every time WE insist on trying to protect the BILL OF RIGHTS, wingers chant it to us.

Sauce, goose? gander? hmmm, somehow the chefs balk at the recipe when it's their asses in the pot.

Rove/Gonzales all for serious investigations and data compilation on the entire population... until THEY are the target.

[radfringe]

19. WHAT'S HIDING IN THE BUSHIES?

With bush refusing to allow Miers and Rove to testify opening, under oath and with a transcription - the question becomes:

WHAT'S HIDING IN THE BUSHIES?

If the firings were proper, and officials served honorably then there's nothing to hide and the bushies should be eagerly racing each other to the microphones and cameras to demonstrate their proper and honorable actions.

Instead, they remain crouching behind a bush. Is this how 'honorable' people behave?

[rasputin1952]

20. The people that say things like that, are generally on of two

things:

1. Not expecting to be caught.

2. Ignorant jerks.

Everyone has something in their past they wish would just go away. bush and his DWI disappeared under his new license when he was Gov ov TX. The one I got in 1984 is still there in my record.

Hiding errors is a great American pastime. TR kept it under wraps for a long time that it was the Buffalo Soldiers that saved his tail on Kettle Hill.

FDR kept his polio as secret as possible.

Cleveland(not sure it was he), kept oral cancer from the public.

Reagan, Iran-Contra, and the idiotic lie that he single handledly brought down the USSR.

Clinton/Lewinsky

Everyday people have secrets they keep as well, from the tryst w/the neighbor to the bounced check and everything else conceivable.

bush is an arrogant jerk, and every time he takes his "rodeo" onto the tube, he hammers the pint home. Some cowboy, strut like an oaf and blame everyone else....ain't the cowboys I know out here in NE.

[opihimoimoi]

21. What will win....Stonewall vs Truth???? The Tide of Truth...everytime

:hi: Raspy

:toast:

[Zywiec]

23. What do people want: truth or vengeance?

[Philosoraptor]

24. I want BOTH thank you.

[rasputin1952]

46. I, for one, do not believe in vengeance; but I am a stickler for Justice...

I don't care about past misdemeanors that harmed no one; but when I look at what the Patriot Act can do to citizens, I am appalled.

IMO, Justice trumps everything. I have been held accountable for past errors in judgement, I expect govt types to be held to the same standard.

I want to know about those that are elected, they can authorize a complete profile on me....why can't we do this to them?

[Philosoraptor]

48. Impeaching Clinton was pure vengeance, are we not allowed to have it?

Vengeance in victory over tyranny is no vice.

[opihimoimoi]

49. Yup, ya nailed it.....Welcome back Rap....

[underpants]

25. RW talking point the 4th Amendment-"If you have nothing to hide...

you have nothing to worry about"

[ShortnFiery]

27. We can make a big difference by parroting this phrase, everywhere and often.

A while back there wasn't a day gone by on C-SPAN's Washington Journal where some Kool-aid drinking right winger said, "If you have nothing to hide, you shouldn't worry about it."

It concerned the wrong topic (warrant-less wiretaps) but on this issue, the Earl and May Ella types were absolutely right! :P :applause:

Yes, let's repeat this meme for it's the SIMPLE lines that catch on in the dumbed-down M$M of today?

[Annces]

28. Welcome back n/t

[raccoon]

29. Anybody who thinks that should read THE INNOCENT MAN by John Grisham. nt

[Dr Fate]

36. Let Rove use that lame excuse. n/t

n/t

[ArmchairMeme]

31. Headline: Bush refuses to let aides testify under oath =

Bush refuses to let aides tell the truth.

[Philosoraptor]

32. Can we, the common scum, REFUSE to testify under oath?

I seriously doubt it. "Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth"? "Sure your honor, as long as it's not given under oath of punishment of perjury like they did Bill Clinton".

[Zywiec]

39. Of course you can. Just invoke the 5th Amendment

[Philosoraptor]

33. No oath, behind closed doors, no transcript, why even testify at ALL?

[Poiuyt]

34. Hey Philosoraptor - We've missed you!!

You have the best rants on DU

[Dr Fate]

35. Which DEMS are on TV saying that today?

???

[earth mom]

38. The evil doers love those double standards don't they?

And hey....Welcome Back! :hi: :bounce:

[Deep13]

40. If you've wiped your ass, you shouldn't mind an anal probe.

:eyes:

[Philosoraptor]

41. And bush shouldn't mind pissing in a jar

Like we the common scum have to to get a job.

[BluePatriot]

44. Time for the Wallet Argument

If someone you know states the above, ask to see their purse or wallet. "But, why?" "Oh, if you have nothing to hide, you shouldn't mind my sifting through here." If they stammer on or feel strange, swoop in and make your point.

This is the best example to get people thinking about privacy rights I have ever come across.

[rucky]

45. Everything a public official says should be "under oath"

We shouldn't have to get their hands on a bible in order to keep them from lying. Aren't they all sworn in when they take office, or something? If not, maybe we can make a requirement.

[devilgrrl]

50. Heeeeee's baaaaaack! :-D

Hey you!!!!! :hi:

Good to see you!!!!!!:bounce:

:woohoo:

[bdamomma]

51. the dems should keep on repeating that over and over again

just like the stupid repigs call it a "witch hunt".

[Catherine Vincent]

53. Amen, brother!

:hi: