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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 02:04 PM Original message |
Kidnapped, Tortured, Raped, Her Children Taken Away (and killed?) Our CIA?? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 02:20 PM Response to Original message |
1. kick |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
2. Well, they did it to other children of "persons of interest" |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. They're denying having her for some years and now, they say she's not competent |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 06:09 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. this is the worst case I have read about yet |
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Hydra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 12:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
52. Insanity isn't considered a defense anymore |
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Cults4Bush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 03:06 PM Response to Original message |
4. Social justice... backburnered until further notice. |
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democrank (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 03:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. I`m so sickened by this. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 06:35 PM Response to Reply #5 |
11. These stories only see the light of day on sites like this or in foreign nations. That's why |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:58 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. Please, don't pretend the CIA wasn't doing this before Bush... |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 01:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
35. no shit |
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Just-plain-Kathy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 05:00 PM Response to Reply #35 |
85. That's right. Rendition started under Clinton. ...n/t |
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irislake (967 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 07:19 AM Response to Reply #19 |
40. Under Bush government |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
6. Monsters. |
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HillbillyBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #6 |
14. These are the same folks that brought us the economic crash, the |
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Usrename (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
15. I've accepted the fact that these folks will always exist. |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
93. NAZIs. |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 04:53 PM Response to Original message |
7. . |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
9. Never forget, we're the good guys. K&R |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 06:25 PM Response to Original message |
10. K&R We should never forget what this evil administration has done. |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
12. leftchick |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. Your English is just fine |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 11:39 AM Response to Reply #20 |
50. leftchick |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 12:32 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. I am impressed |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 03:13 PM Response to Reply #54 |
76. Not to put too fine a point on it but most of us foreigners know more |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 04:47 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. I am very aware of the suppression and manipulation of information here |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #76 |
105. wolfgangmo |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #54 |
103. leftchick |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 08:42 PM Response to Reply #103 |
104. Joseph Gobbles is a perfect example of where the US is today |
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Diclotican (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 09:15 PM Original message |
leftchick |
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TrogL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 07:37 PM Response to Original message |
13. This why you cannot have a blanket pardon of anybody in Dubya's administration |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
16. May this case be cleared and this women given back her life. |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
17. there's a strange wiki article about her |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
18. Well, DUH, this is what the CIA does and has been doing long before Bush... |
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spiritual_gunfighter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 12:07 PM Response to Reply #18 |
51. Yes long before GWB was in office |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 06:43 PM Response to Reply #18 |
95. It's true. The CIA did heinous acts to Americans. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:38 PM Response to Original message |
21. Can someone tell me what the difference is between the |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:31 PM Response to Reply #21 |
26. The Nazis lost |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 12:51 AM Response to Reply #26 |
33. Yes this is true the Nazi's lost |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 02:51 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. My point is that it's only a "crime" if you're on the losing side |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 10:41 AM Response to Reply #36 |
49. your disgustingly cynical point sounds pretty astute to me |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 06:48 PM Response to Reply #36 |
96. Every nation rewrites it's own history more favorably. |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #36 |
106. And I think your point is acccurate! |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 03:41 PM Response to Reply #26 |
80. You are correct... |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 08:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
100. We'll take the war criminals... We would be glad to... But first... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:45 PM Response to Original message |
22. The wars are their "license" to do these things .... we have to stop them....ASAP -- |
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ejbr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:49 PM Response to Original message |
23. they will pay for this...all of them n/t |
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UpInArms (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:51 PM Response to Original message |
24. the USoA lost its way in 1947 with the NSA |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 09:54 PM Response to Original message |
25. It will take decades for all the HORRORS to be reported out there. |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:35 PM Response to Original message |
27. Eight years of arrogance. 45 years of not getting caught. 45 years of |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 08:09 PM Response to Reply #27 |
101. Funny you should mention JFK... |
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peacetalksforall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 11:28 PM Response to Reply #101 |
115. Wrong. The Bay of Pigs invasion was planned in the Eisenhower administration - it was |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-12-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #115 |
117. 'Some say he was set up'.... Well, of course 'some say' that... |
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wroberts189 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
28. These outrages on us all MUST be stopped. k&r eom |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
29. Her doctorate was in cognitive neuroscience, not genetics |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 03:12 PM Response to Reply #29 |
75. The other side of the story. |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:34 PM Response to Original message |
30. We are going to hear a lot of ugly stories once the truth rises to the surface but hopefully > |
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Voltaire99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-10-08 11:40 PM Response to Original message |
31. Another glorious chapter in the history of the CIA. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 12:45 AM Response to Original message |
32. Kick |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 12:59 AM Response to Original message |
34. Ahmed, the seven-year-old, lying in a pool of blood |
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QueenOfCalifornia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 09:09 AM Response to Reply #34 |
45. Well now... |
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Senator (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 05:01 AM Response to Original message |
37. The "New Man" In The WH Remains Impeachophobically Complicit |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 06:24 AM Response to Reply #37 |
38. I couldn't agree more... |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 08:34 AM Response to Reply #37 |
43. how depressing |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 08:12 PM Response to Reply #37 |
102. Because he knows that, once he supports impeachment/indictment of Bush... |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 07:11 AM Response to Original message |
39. I read it. Did she get arrested because she wanted to work here? nt |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 03:16 PM Response to Reply #39 |
77. No. According to Wikkipedia, she and her then husband were |
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riverdeep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 06:56 PM Response to Reply #77 |
97. Ok, so if they have evidence against her |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 06:57 PM Response to Reply #77 |
98. Were there really hijackers? |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 09:10 PM Response to Reply #77 |
109. Oh ok - I agree it does not justify torture. Really, torture is never justifiable nt |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-08 12:01 AM Response to Reply #77 |
123. When was she supposed to have re-married? |
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Window (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 07:46 AM Response to Original message |
41. Dear Lord! Inhumane and disgusting. Words fail me. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 08:24 AM Response to Original message |
42. Sickening. I have an issue with one of Ridley's comments though. |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #42 |
124. As for holding people responsible-- |
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Christa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 08:42 AM Response to Original message |
44. K & R |
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sui generis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 09:11 AM Response to Original message |
46. well if she wasn't a terrorist before we got hold of her . . . |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
47. I'm deeply skeptical |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 12:12 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. I am also very skeptical |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 12:42 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Agreed. n/t |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 02:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
73. the torture victim's account |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-12-08 11:49 AM Response to Reply #73 |
116. I guess I just don't completely believe her. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-12-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #116 |
118. what ever happened to |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-12-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #118 |
119. It's not up to me to find them guilty- a jury presumes innocence. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-12-08 01:49 PM Response to Reply #119 |
120. that is the point |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-12-08 02:04 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. You don't have to explain how fucked up the redition and torture program is to me. |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 12:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. Question Everything! |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 01:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
57. What makes you think Americans would be above rape? |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 02:18 PM Response to Reply #57 |
70. I didn't say any such thing n/t |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #57 |
91. Of course! The "Greatest Generation" raped thousands in Europe in World War II |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 09:17 PM Response to Reply #57 |
111. There's no doubt that this has been *the* most abusive American administration in history... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #47 |
58. It seems to be a partisan article. I had some questions, too, |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 01:58 PM Response to Reply #58 |
66. The Counterpunch article is a little partisan, I agree |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 02:01 PM Response to Reply #66 |
67. I agree, entirely. n/t |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #47 |
64. It is not known where she was held between 2003 - 2008 |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Dec-12-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #64 |
122. not just smell |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 02:15 PM Response to Reply #47 |
69. how about this |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 02:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. What about it? |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 02:37 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. wow you are fast! |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 02:47 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. No I didn't read all the links |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 04:44 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. oh I get it |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 04:58 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. I'm at work, dont have that kind of time |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 05:04 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. lol! |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 05:52 PM Response to Reply #88 |
92. hehe |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 07:47 PM Response to Reply #92 |
99. Okay I read all the links, and more |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #99 |
107. excellent! |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #107 |
108. Pot, meet kettle |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 09:19 PM Response to Reply #107 |
112. I don't agree with you - we are simply not assuming that what prisoners say is always true.... |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 09:34 PM Response to Reply #112 |
113. sorry to disagree |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 09:37 PM Response to Reply #113 |
114. If she is a torture victim, I side with her too nt |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 03:20 PM Response to Reply #47 |
78. Hmmmmmmmmmm |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 03:28 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. Hmmmmmmmmmmm |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 04:51 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. American Prison in Afghanistan, Bagram Air Base run by |
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Autonomy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 05:02 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. I'm not interested |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #87 |
89. run away |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
48. Anyone still believe no-one deserves to suffer endless agony and torment in Hell throughout |
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balantz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
59. If our politicians were truly humanitarian they would put an end to these acts of terror. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
60. Our CIA?? With it's long record of humantarianism and love of peace?? |
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clear eye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
61. There is an online petition for her. (link) |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 02:02 PM Response to Reply #61 |
68. Thank you for the link |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 01:41 PM Response to Original message |
62. If this is true... |
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BoneDaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
63. Totally disgusting |
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LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 01:56 PM Response to Original message |
65. I think the bigger point |
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Mike 03 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 05:00 PM Response to Original message |
86. Absolutely sickening, appalling. Does anyone know if her children were actually killed? |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 05:09 PM Response to Reply #86 |
90. on your last question , NO |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
94. I love the smell of Freedom |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Dec-11-08 09:15 PM Response to Reply #94 |
110. he sounds totally drunk |
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dorkulon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-13-08 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
125. Hersh: children raped at Abu Ghraib, Pentagon has videos |
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