Official President Gore testimony thread No.2

[Greeby]

THread No. 1

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x462310

http://www.c-span.org/watch/cspan3_rm.asp?Cat=TV&Code=CS3

[bananas]

1. "Here's what I think we should do"

a carbon freeze...

[Gold Metal Flake]

2. Thank you bloggers!!!!!

:toast:

[Rose Siding]

3. We do not have the luxury...of excercising politics as usual. Immediate freeze-

Immediately FREEZE c02 emissions, then legislate reductions.

[Viva_La_Revolution]

4. K&R

reduce taxes on employment and production, increase taxes on polluting.

go Al! :bounce:

[Rose Siding]

5. #2 Make shift to nat'l healthcare- Will make us more competitive by

cutting costs to businesses

[Mabus]

6. Kyoto as a brand as been demonized

My characterization of it: Thanks to mostly to Republican and other corporate whores.

edited to make clear that Gore didn't make this characterization.

[Rose Siding]

8. Good comparison to SALTII -Rename it, make it stronger!

[quiet.american]

9. Exactly -- one of the committee's wingnuts referred to those in favor of Kyoto as "Kyoto-ites."n/t

[Rose Siding]

7. Be part of strong global treaty. I know the name Kyoto has been demonized

[WinkyDink]

10. Carrying over: May I just say that the stark contrast between THIS MAN and Ape-Boy is SHOCKING.

Articulate.
Learned.
Personable.

I guess I need to think of this as the better door that opened when the 2000 one was slammed shut.

[kirby]

34. Soooo true

Can you imagine Bush trying to give this presentation?

Now, these global warmings are warming our globes...

[herbbrown]

11. OT How Easy Could this Guy be the President?

He's Gotta run, doesn't he?

[Mabus]

31. When he talks I feel hope for the future

He cares. He cares about our planet and our collective futures. I support Gore without hesitation.

[kirby]

36. I feel sad

realizing that little will be done. Business as usual....

[Mabus]

46. That's why Al has taken the campaign to the people

We can do it. We have to. Nothing else matters.

[SharonRB]

134. Yes!

:hi:

Did you make it to the rally Saturday? I didn't see you.

[herbbrown]

149. sorry missed your post sharon

no I got tied up, hope we had a good turnout. Run Al, run!

[Turn CO Blue]

12. Moratorium on any coal plant not compatible with capture

and sequestration.

[Turn CO Blue]

14. congress should develop an "electranet"

allows homeowners to put up photovoltaic and windmills to sell power back into the grid without caps.

[bananas]

13. electranet - a smart grid. nt

[Rose Siding]

15. regulated the way public utilities are now

This is a big idea. "Let people sell it"

[bananas]

27. delete - meant to post below

[Mabus]

16. Taking us off large electric grids

Great idea. Imagine, if something goes wrong in one area (part of the grid becomes impaired) the rest of the region is not affected. No more rolling blackouts/brownouts because smaller regions are involved.

[Roland99]

33. Al Gore: "I invented the electranet"

he he

[quiet.american]

17. Uh-oh, he's talking about cutting into GOP corporate greed interests now.

You know they're going to howl about his idea for developing the capability for individuals to generate their own energy.

[Rose Siding]

19. Everything he's talked about cuts into repub greed

[quiet.american]

24. True enough. :) n/t

[bananas]

18. raise cafe standards

better coffee for all
(edit: that's my joke, not Gore's)

[Rose Siding]

Set date to outmode incandescent lightbulbs

[Turn CO Blue]

20. Address cars, coal and buildings in an intelligent way

ban on incandescent light bulbs.

[Turn CO Blue]

22. Connie Mae - carbon neutral mortgage association.

[bananas]

21. Connire Mae

carbon mortgages

[Turn CO Blue]

23. CNN covering sex slavery...

[Turn CO Blue]

25. FCC: require carbon emissions as part of corporate reporting.

[Turn CO Blue]

28. Stockholders ought to be able to know that.

[ourbluenation]

26. mandatory coprporate reporting of carbon emmissions

[Greeby]

29. "Yes Crisatunity!"

Sorry, couldn't resist ;)

[Rose Siding]

30. Most dangerous crisis, greatest opportunity

[Mabus]

41. Our own Thermopylae show down

Only we have millions on our side who are willing to fight to save our civilization and our planet with Gore as our Leonidas. We will fight and we will win.

[bananas]

32. He's coming to the close of his comments

I think he'll be questioned after that.

[Rose Siding]

35. Parliamentary inquiry from the obstructionist Barton

[Norquist Nemesis]

38. Their incessant whining and potshots just show their

disdain for our democracy.

[bananas]

37. Bart Gordon asked Gore about cost

[Mabus]

43. uh, Mr. Barton, the cost is our planet & the future of humanity

Mr. Barton is an a**hole.

[bananas]

45. this was Bart Gordon, a good guy

giving Al an opportunity to talk about the positives

[Mabus]

47. You're right, I'm the idiot

I was typing another reply and responded to your post while thinking of that Texas a-hole before Gore spoke.

:blush:

[bananas]

51. it's confusing - now Joe Barton (R) is asking questions. nt

[Mabus]

58. Sensory input overload

I'm still half asleep and I'm so excited to see Al and Tipper. Our three dogs have picked up on my excitement and are running around acting crazy.

[bananas]

44. Gore quotes Amory Lovins

"they got the sign wrong"

[Catherine Vincent]

39. Gore!

[obnoxiousdrunk]

40. Tipper is in the house. n/t

[Mabus]

49. They're a great team.

:woohoo: :bounce:

[lildreamer316]

42. I'm just catching up

I think he may have lost a little bit of weight-not a ton, but some...

[Turn CO Blue]

48. Pollution is waste! You've got to buy raw materials to make

waste.

[DemKR]

50. President Gore is such a gentleman

Joe Barton doesn't deserve his respect. What a jerk.

[ms liberty]

52. Dingell just accidently called Al "Mr President" !!!!! n/t

[Turn CO Blue]

57. heard that too!

[Marnieworld]

136. Al didn't correct him

It was nice.

[bananas]

53. Joe Barton (R) says co2 follows temperature

edit: reading some science articles to contradict Gore

[butterfly77]

54. This barton asshole told gore that he is totally wrong...

about CO2 levels...

[Norquist Nemesis]

55. Here we go with the Cons ticking off their TP

Before Oscar night was over, they went on a rampage and are still raging.

[SaveElmer]

56. Are they really gonna challenge Gore on the Science...?

Barton is about to get his ass handed to him I bet...

[Mabus]

59. He's a republican, he doesn't believe in science

:crazy:

[Old Vet]

61. Hope gore hands him his ass

Gores ready for this watch

[Mabus]

68. Gore's heard the RW talking points before

he knows how to handle these morons. Barton has already shown himself to be a complete asshole this morning.

[kcass1954]

62. He's repeating the same crap he spewed on WJ this morning, almost word for word.

My president is about to mop the floor with him.

[hippiechick]

60. Al looks like he's ready to have Barton (R-moron) for lunch!!

I love that he's taking notes on the dipshit's pseudo-science with a smile on his face.

GO GIT 'EM, PRESIDENT AL!!!

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

63. OT UPDATE: House Judiciary Committee Approves Subpoenas 4 Rove & Miers

[bananas]

67. Yay! nt

[Hepburn]

128. A-freaking-men!!!!! Way to go!!!! Thanks for the info! n/t

[bananas]

64. Joe Barton (R) just listed a bunch of things we're already doing

things that Gore has recommended

[Turn CO Blue]

65. Is Barton ever going to ask a question? He's still making

his opening statement - so why'd he waive it? He's not ever going to ask a question. I went to get a glass of water and he's still talking.

[Democrat 4 Ever]

70. Barton has to filibuster. If he asks President Gore a question he will

get his ass handed to him. Don't ask, tell is the way the repugs make sure nothing of substance is ever discussed.

[Turn CO Blue]

73. Jeepers! Which oil company wrote this statement for him?

[Norquist Nemesis]

77. I'm betting those Cons that waived will all use their time for opening statements

filled with rhetorical questions and hit points, leave 10 seconds for one final question, then cut him off by reclaiming their time until Dingell bangs the gavel with "time has expired."

[Norquist Nemesis]

90. So, I was only off by 9 seconds.

[Turn CO Blue]

147. You were right! We'll see how it goes in the Senate this afternoon

every Repub was fillibustering with Oil company talking points and no questions.

On edit: changed "Puke" to Repub - trying to rise above that level, but "it's hard work!"

[Horse with no Name]

66. Does Barton have a question in here anywhere?

Or is he just bloviating? Never mind, I don't need that answered.

[ms liberty]

69. Please Al, hand this dip-shit his head on a platter...

Gawd bless, Barton is such an effing shill.

[Rose Siding]

71. No, no politics at play here: "You jetted into Kyoto"

:eyes:

[rodeodance]

72. Joe Barton listing Gores Rec. that he thinks are Flawed!

[rodeodance]

78. also had long list of things Congress is doing already

[Mabus]

87. Legislation they pass

is often different than what they actually do. More so, now that Chimpy does his signing statements reinterpreting what was passed.

[underpants]

74. This may not shock you but Joe Barton is from Texas

http://joebarton.house.gov/

[blogslut]

75. Oh Joe

You act like Al doesn't know everything you're about to say

[OrangeCountyDemocrat]

76. His Final 19 Seconds....YAY!! nt

[Greeby]

79. Here comes the smackdown!

:popcorn:

[rodeodance]

82. Joe B. just showed the world how stupid he actually is!!

[shadowknows69]

83. Al makes Barton look like he's a 2nd Grader.

No offense intended to any second graders.

[Horse with no Name]

80. Go get him AL!

Eat that fucker for lunch.

[SaveElmer]

81. Gravity...

:rofl:

[Turn CO Blue]

84. Gore: more scientific consensus on this with exception of gravity.

[bananas]

85. Barton interrupting Gore

"would you answer the question"
"well you asked quite a few of them"
then gore returns to emphasizing the science
says if your baby has a fever you take action

[jojo54]

86. Somebody slap a banana in Barton's mouth!!!

[Rose Siding]

88. Shut up Barton, I ain't done yet

Go go go, Al :D

[Rose Siding]

94. If the crib's on fire, you don't speculate that the baby's flame retardant

[G_Leo_Criley]

89. too many words!!!

for barton.

wahhh!

glc

[Norquist Nemesis]

100. Cons strategy is use time w/opening statement, reclaim time mid-sentence

and make statements he's not answering a multi-part question in 10 seconds, whine to Chair and take potshots at Chair's management.

[rodeodance]

91. Gore the Teacher (Listen up Joe Barton---you WiLL learn lots)

[rodeodance]

105. Fox News: Al Gore Refuses to Listen to Republican Opening Statements

Forum Name General Discussion
Topic subject Fox News: Al Gore Refuses to Listen to Republican Opening Statements
Topic URL http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x463090#463090
463090, Fox News: Al Gore Refuses to Listen to Republican Opening Statements
Posted by sabra on Wed Mar-21-07 09:53 AM


http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewFlash.asp?Page=/ThisHour/Archive/NTH20070321c.html

Al Gore Refuses to Listen to Republican Opening Statements

(CNSNews.com) - Former Vice President Al Gore apparently will brook no skepticism. Given the opportunity to testify about global warming before the House Energy and Commerce Committee on Wednesday, Gore decided to arrive late, so he wouldn't have to suffer through the Republican opening statement. He was seen waiting in a hall outside the committee room, Fox News reported. Republicans agreed to waive their opening remarks in exchange for extra time to question Gore.



:rofl:

[npincus]

92. Gore handing him his ass

[Greeby]

93. "If the crib is on fire, you don't speculate that the baby is flame-retardant!"

:spray:

[usregimechange]

113. I loved that! We need that video seg

[Princess Turandot]

95. If the crib's on fire, you don't say the baby's wearing flame retardant pj's

bwahahahaha

[hippiechick]

96. "If the crib's on fire you don't speculate whether the baby's fire retardent!"

:applause: GO AL!!! :patriot:

[jojo54]

97. May I ask what corporate whore Barton bows down to???

[lildreamer316]

He's from Texas. Need I say more?

I would hazard a guess at 1) Oil and 2) Coal.

[quiet.american]

102. 'Nuff said. n/t

[trof]

120. top contributors

4 Lyondell Chemical $25,000
5 TXU Corp $24,000
6 AMR Corp $20,750
7 Anadarko Petroleum $19,200
8 Suez Energy North America $15,750
9 Reliant Energy $14, 500
15 Exxon Mobil $11,000
15 General Motors $11,000
http://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/contrib.asp?CID=N00005656&cycle=2006

Among industries, Electric utilities is # 2 and Oil and Gas is #4.

[Greybnk48]

98. Gore's knocking the tar out of Burton.

Funny! Using info you read in a science fiction book...

[Turn CO Blue]

Barton makes many flawed points, but only wants Gore to

answer to cafe standards question, and is interrupting Gore with a petulent voice. And now is having audacity to laugh.

[Mabus]

110. Barton was trying the old technique of flinging poo and running

He talked so much to make sure Gore didn't have time to answer him. Gore don't play that game. ;)

[Turn CO Blue]

148. That's a game that monkeys and chimps enjoy - flinging poo

and running...not that I'm implying anything.

[SaveElmer]

99. Barton...you should just slink out now...

Gore just made you look like a complete fool!!!!

[bananas]

101. Now Rick Boucher (D-VA) nt

[bananas]

109. Gore ran out of time responding to Joe Barton's talking points

he will add a written response later for the record.

[keithjx]

103. Hey Barton, you should've known better.

Talk about an ass-whooping. The answer about precession and orbits was so dead-on.
KJ

[underpants]

111. Barton laughs at Gore offering to answer his other 3 questions

Barton came off in a really smart ass way too.

[Me.]

104. Barton Just Left The Room

The stench lifts

[lildreamer316]

108. Did he really? I was distracted..

Ha ha ha ha ha..

[Me.]

115. Yep

What a fool he has showed himself to be.

[butterfly77]

106. Barton is about to shit in his pants because...

Gore is giving the facts that he doesn't want to be heard, repugs are planning on interrupting his answers so that a full explanation can't be heard...

[rodeodance]

114. It is shameful that people elected him to Congress!

[Mabus]

118. A redux of the Brook Brothers riot

Only this time they are trying to stop the facts from being known.

[in_cog_ni_to]

107. Boucher up. He was on the SPAN's WJ this morning.

Go Al!

[bananas]

117. Gore says the European system is working

some are ahead, some are behind
they just enacted binding agreements
"Now, here's what they did wrong when they started"
they chose the wrong base year...

[underpants]

119. Reps Va's 9th district-waaay out western part of the state

Coal mining and formerly garment manufacturing area. We have been really working this area recently. The 9th pretty much gave Mark Warner the Governors race (Kaine too) and Webb did very well there.

[Mabus]

124. Great information

Thank you. :patriot:

[butterfly77]

112. Who is this a dem or repug .

I can't see it that well on my computer..

[keithjx]

116. Boucher D-Va n/t

[Greeby]

121. Hall, another oil industry shill

:puke:

[Mabus]

127. They're more interested in giving speeches than learning or doing anything

Use up all the time and don't let Gore speak.

[obnoxiousdrunk]

122. Oil man Hall

is next.

[bananas]

123. Ralph Hall (R-TX)

speaking friendly with gore - some pleasantries,
but "I have to differ with you"

[lildreamer316]

125. *taking a moment to visualize the presidental seal in front of Mr. Gore*

sigh.

Ok,back to the good stuff. Excuse me...

[ORDagnabbit]

126. Hall....... "I love ya gore...but heres a shiv to your back"

[bananas]

129. asking about costs, quoting Lomborg

asks will we be at a disadvantage if we take steps and china doesn't?

[keithjx]

130. Hall's question really was a fair one.

How do we prevent American manufacturers from getting hosed by the added costs of carbon dioxide reduction against other nations (India, China) that don't act (and can manufacture more cheaply)?

Good question.

KJ

[Gold Metal Flake]

133. When have Republicans ever cared about American manufacturers?

[catabryna]

141. Tariffs... n/t

[Flarney]

142. We add a carbon tarriff to their products nt

[Mabus]

131. The information that Gore can tick off without notes is incredible

The only thing that Bush can talk as eloquently and tick off facts about is . . . :eyes: Never mind. :evilgrin:

[Marnieworld]

140. Isn't it wonderful?

It is so refreshing when someone actually knows what they are talking about. To speak spontaneously without having a committee arriving at your official thoughts is revolutionary nowadays.

The sound of his voice soothes me. God I hope he runs.

[Mabus]

145. You and me both

On all counts, but especially in regards to his running for President.

[Javaman]

144. moron* just ticks off people. lol nt

[Mabus]

146. Well said. And true.

:rofl:

[bananas]

132. Nick Lampson (D-TX)

asks a softballe
can we achieve air quality benefits, reduced traffic congestion, as well?

[bananas]

135. Coal!

How do stop cheap coal?

[bananas]

137. carbon capture has to be done right

so it doesn't come back up

[bananas]

139. requires accurate costs of coal and proper carbon capture.

says Norway and Finland are doing it right.

[Greeby]

138. Thread 3 here

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=463405&mesg_id=463405

[ms liberty]

143. My head just exploded....

Denny Hastert almost sounded like a reasonable person there for a minute.