Why does Obama tolerate attempt by the press to propagate scandal

[Subdivisions]

where he is concerned? Why doesn't he speak out about how AP, CNN, etc., continuously try to bring him down or spread false propaganda designed to scandalize him?

[DrDan]

1. because he is above that

[ecstatic]

2. As frustrated as he must be, the best way to deal with smears

is the way he has for the past year: To just tell what he knows and leave it at that.

[opihimoimoi]

4. He noes he is innocent....the more them Pubs attack, the stronger he will emerge

[Ichingcarpenter]

3. I think the press conference is going great

and to me the story is over. I doubt the republicans think so.
But I'm enjoying the press conference.

[malaise]

5. Ditto

He was great.

[Subdivisions]

12. The press conference was excellent. But as soon as it was over,

MSNBC clearly stated that this was not going to go away.

[Occam Bandage]

6. Because throwing a tantrum about how "unfair" the media is

is the absolute last refuge of a politician who's about to be destroyed by his own wrongdoing.

[Lex]

7. Exactly.

I think he handled it just right today.

[caledesi]

9. I agree! nt

[Subdivisions]

11. Bullshit.

I'm not talking about a "tantrum". Futhermore, Obama needs no "last refuge" and neither does he face being "destroyed by his own wrongdoing".

The news hacks are LYING to the American people. There must be some sort of recourse and if their isn't then Obama should begin talking about restoring the Fairness Doctrine and other regulations prohibiting this sort of false smearing.

[Occam Bandage]

15. You are right that he needs no last refuge, nor has he done wrong.

Which is why he will not act as if he does and did.

[Raskolnik]

25. What lies are you talking about? n/t

[Captain Hilts]

8. He's channeling his inner Dukakis. nt

[Occam Bandage]

10. Better than channelling his inner Rumsfeld. nt

[Captain Hilts]

37. Yes. I ADORE Dukakis, so it wasn't an insult. nt

[Raskolnik]

13. To be fair, the media would not be doing their job if they didn't thoroughly investigate

the possibility that Obama or his staff were involved in this corruption. All the evidence at this point indicates that Obama and his staff will come out of this with flying colors, but that doesn't mean that the questions shouldn't be asked.

Frankly, I don't want the media taking *any* president's word as gospel.

[Subdivisions]

14. WHAT FUCKING INVESTIGATION?

That's the stupidest thing I've read all day. The media doesn't INVESTIGATE a GOD DAMNED THING! They just make shit up!

[Raskolnik]

20. If they are making something up, then yes, that is inappropriate.

But are you honestly saying that the media *shouldn't* investigate something like this?

[Subdivisions]

26. They don't investigate. They write and read from scripts written in

the HQ of General Electric.

[Raskolnik]

27. It would help if you provided some specific example of the HQ of GE

writing a script in this instance. What reporting from NBC or MSNBC do you think has been unfair or inaccurate?

Thanks in advance.

[tjwash]

16. Yeah...like they thouroughly investigated that whole "weapons of mass destruction" thingy?

:eyes:

This is the same whore media slimed Gore in 2000 by starting and propagating the whole "sore-loserman" "get over it" shit, cheer-leaded and were complicit in the bush administrations lies and march to an illegal oil war in the middle east, gave slanted and biased coverage to the 9-11 investigations, and did everything that they absolutely could to derail the Democrats during the Primaries.


Please...

All of a sudden they are going to magically start acting like journalists now? I'll be surprised if the mother fuckers don't applaud every pardon that bush gives out from now till Jan 20th.

[Raskolnik]

21. Wait, I'm confused. Do you want the press to investigate corruption or not?

[bluedawg12]

18. Suddenly we have an "investigative media?"

Where were they for the last eight years?

They need to invesitgate this: Fitzgerald's statement that PE Obama ( and by this I assume he means any representatives of PE Obama) is not in any way implicated in this.

Unless having your name on a now vacated Senate seat, as in "Obama's former senate seat in Illinios", means something? Which it does not.

I drive the Illinois toll road now and then, the word Illinios appears on the sign, I must be implicated. :sarcasm:

[Raskolnik]

23. Jebus. I'm not saying anyone in the media should report falsehoods.

But to whine about the press for making a big deal about something that IS A BIG FUCKING DEAL is silly.

[bluedawg12]

28. I'm not whinning about anything, there is simply nothing there.

[Raskolnik]

30. And if this was about Bush, would you feel comfortable if the press decided after 24 hours

that there was simply nothing there? C'mon...

I think it is extremely likely that Obama is going to come out of this looking very, very good. But to suggest that the media would be doing its job if it determined there was "nothing there" at this point is not reasonable.

[bluedawg12]

38. The press has investigated this as has Fitzgerald I see nothing there.

Investigations have been on going since 2004 and the Chicago Trib. paper was part of it.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-investigation-timeline-1208,0,497054,full.story

From Huff Po:

Bob CescaPosted December 10, 2008
Obama Unfairly Tainted by Crimes He Didn't Commit


>>It began yesterday with the RNC demanding to know the full extent of the president-elect's relationship with Blagojevich even though Patrick Fitzgerald was perfectly clear about the relationship when he said on national television that the president-elect had nothing to do with any of it. But to suggest that the former junior senator from Illinois never communicated with the governor of Illinois is ridiculous on its face -- of course there was the usual level of professional communication there, though it entirely fails to prove or even implicate any corruption on the part of Barack Obama. Then again, since when does reality matter?

Meanwhile, the Politico and numerous other news organizations have been attempting to make this the first "scandal" of the Obama presidency as if Blagojevich is somehow a member of the transition or an appointee to the future administration. The truth is Obama never endorsed Blagojevich and Blagojevich never endorsed Obama. Unless you consider Blagojevich's obnoxious "fuck him" remark to be an endorsement, that is.<<
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bob-cesca/obama-unfairly-tainted-by_b_150011.html

[Raskolnik]

39. Ok, Case closed. Everybody go home. Glad every question is answered. n/t

[bluedawg12]

40. Exactly! No case, nothing to see.

Fitzgerald will investigate Blago, as he said he is doing.

In the meantime I want the PE Obama to govern, there is much to do.

[cali]

22. t he tapes make crystal clear that Obama would not play ball with Blagojevich

but aside from that, I don't disagree with you.

[Raskolnik]

24. Yes, *all* the available evidence makes Obama & his staff look quite good.

But if all the party affiliations were switched in this incident, people would be screaming bloody murder around here if the press wasn't asking tough questions.

I want the press to ask tough questions, to investigate, and to make the results of that investigation clear. I have every belief that if they do that, Obama will come out smelling like a rose, and the public will be well-served for the process.

[whippo]

36. Where did Blago get that from?

[LSK]

29. "Fuck him. For nothing? Fuck him."

That's his involvement.

:shrug:

[Raskolnik]

31. Yeah, that's what it certainly looks like.

Should the media pack up and go home, or do you think that if this was a Republican, you might want them to ask one or two follow-up questions?

[LSK]

32. quite frankly, Im more interested in whats going on to prevent the next Depression

And I live in IL.

[Raskolnik]

33. Ok.

[malaise]

17. Obama is going to have the last laugh here

Bet on it.

[deaniac21]

19. Whattaya gonna do?

[treestar]

34. Obama can hardly control the press

And we'd prefer he do what he has to do rather than let the right wing call the shots as usual and use up time trying to disprove their nonsense.

[trudyco]

35. I'm hoping on this one that he can point to it when they start

prosecuting the real corruption - the Bush regime. He can say he doesn't condone corruption on either side of the isle. The more the media blathers about it the more people will remember. I hope.

But it just may be me feeling pollyanna today. We'll see. :popcorn: