Did I just hear Obama use the "far left, far right, we're in the center" frame?
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Thu Dec-11-08 11:30 AM
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Did I just hear Obama use the "far left, far right, we're in the center" frame? |
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My wife was watching CNBC in the basement and I thought I heard someone (she says Obama) use the "We're in the center of the FAR LEFT and the FAR RIGHT" frame so popular with the Democratic Establishment. Someone please tell me I'm wrong.
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Thu Dec-11-08 11:34 AM
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1. If he did, good for him. |
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This is a very smart way to make sure that anything that he does is going to be seen as main stream and common sensical. Since he's going to be doing liberal things, in the long run this is going to help the Democrats and make it harder for Republicans to act like obstructionistic dumbfucks.
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Thu Dec-11-08 11:34 AM
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Thu Dec-11-08 11:34 AM
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3. not those words exactly - he was quoting Daschle's speech |
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I guess saying goodbye to Senate - something about common sense solutions being neither on the far left nor the far right, but in the middle where most Americans are.
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Thu Dec-11-08 11:35 AM
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When you're in power, you define yourself as the center.
It's how you move the debate in your direction (in our case, leftward).
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Thu Dec-11-08 11:38 AM
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5. "Rar! I DEMAND the President declare that he is a fringe ideologue!" |
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Seriously, are you actually dumb enough to think that it's a bad idea for the President to say that he's in the center?
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Thu Dec-11-08 11:42 AM
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6. Oh yeah, right. Everyone else is fringe and FAR out, except centrists |
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Lovely lovely centrists who cater to lobbyists and spit on the common man.
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Thu Dec-11-08 11:44 AM
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7. So you're upset that the President is kicking the "centrists" you hate out of the center? |
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Or did you not bother thinking through what Obama's declaration means?
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Thu Dec-11-08 11:47 AM
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10. The centrists are the ones the president to be is embracing while kicking |
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everyone else out to far fringe status. Lobbyists are a Centrist hallmark.
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Thu Dec-11-08 11:48 AM
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12. What do lobbyists have to do with anything? You're all over the place, man. |
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Thu Dec-11-08 12:13 PM
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15. What can you expect. Your kicking centrists out of the center |
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comment is coming somewhere out of left field. Obama is saying the left is FAR left and the right is FAR right and he is neither. He is right there in the center with the centrists.
Look. What is objectionable about Obama's statement is that there are only the FAR crazy wacked out Left and the FAR crazy wacked out Right. And there he sits in the only sane sensible place there is, the Centrist position.
There is the left of center, the left and the far left. And many places in between. Barack is using the standard DLC/New Dem/Blue Dog/Bush Dog condescending terminology and labeling everyone who is not a centrist as a Wacked out crazy.
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Thu Dec-11-08 11:45 AM
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8. He's not the liberal progressive folks projected onto him. He's a centrist... |
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politician.
Hence, the turn on FISA and stuff like that. Situational.
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Thu Dec-11-08 11:45 AM
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I heard that they want to hear the opinons of everyone at the table on health care , and another thing about "far end of the spectrum" when talking about Bago/corrupt politics.
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Thu Dec-11-08 11:47 AM
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11. What concerns you about that? Serious question. |
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Thu Dec-11-08 11:55 AM
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13. Every time I hear this centrist bullshit, I wonder if anything will be accomplished. |
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Compromising on everything is not leading. Example - Far left would count slaves as full citizens with full rights. Far right would count them as nothing. Centrist accepts the three-quarters compromise. And that is progress?
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Thu Dec-11-08 11:58 AM
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14. Those are only words... |
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Standing up for healthcare and the workers in Chicago is "in the center". It's not left or right. We lose when we let them define it that way. We are in the center.
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