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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 09:59 AM
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Prediction: There will be a sizable migration of displaced workers to the south
There have been several migrations of labor in this country's short history. I suspect we are on the brink of the next one. One has to wonder how the remaining Republican states will deal with it when it comes. If your car is your home in February its a lot better for it to be parked in Atlanta* than in Detroit* and people will go to Atlanta when there is no job and no hope of a job in Detroit.

I do not literly mean Atlanta and Detroit, I simply use them as examples of Southern and northern cities that will certainly be effected by an increase in demand for costly social services associated with an influx of economic refugees.
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Acadia Blue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:00 AM
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1. I hope not. There is nothing here now. And wages are low.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:03 AM
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2. that would be a MISTAKE
There are NO jobs here right now.

Rentals are HIGH, food costs are HIGH, and the charitable organizations are swamped by folks who have lived here for a while, and are suddenly thrown out of work.

Better to stay in an area you are familiar with, than to come to an area that is HOSTILE to outsiders who are broke and in need of help.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:09 AM
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4. If the republicans are going to bray about how superior
the "southern way" is in regards to jobs,don't be surprised that lots of desperate people will take them up on it.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:14 AM
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8. If only the Senators would lose something because of their talk
it would be worth it - but they won't.

Atlanta has instituted homeless laws that are disgusting, as well as heartbreaking. The charitable organizations are backwards and over-worked right now.

The jobs are NOT here. All bluster from the Senators is just that - bluster. One guy my old man met on a temp assignment had been out of work since LAST October. He's traveling 60 miles round trip for a 10 buck an hour job.

Welcome to the South - the wealthy endure by driving the poor into the ground, literally.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:19 AM
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9. Unfortunately,the south will probably see a great number
of desperate migrants coming your way.Your elected officials will have no choice but to deal with it.I'll be curious to see how long the republicans can deny reality when it comes their way.It won't be pretty.
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Bozita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:39 PM
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21. Another Mike Thompson masterpiece!
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:06 AM
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3. They will teach reading and writing and route 95 in the northern
states. Industrial Armageddon for the blue states. So much for Obama's "Bipartisanshit"
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:11 AM
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6. Repetez en anglais, s'il vous plait?
:shrug:


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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:10 AM
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5. the only auto innovation in the South is their total surrender to foreign firms
. . . the willingness of some governments there to bend to whatever it takes to keep these foreign car companies in their state. If foreign domination of the U.S. car industry is the future for America then the South will have jobs available, but not ones which sustain the workers. Americans need to decide if they want this industry to go the way of so many other technologies that were abandoned by our government here but invested in overseas by both the governments there and the foreign auto industry we support with our dollars here.
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sandyd921 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:20 AM
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11. Just another low-wage place to outsource jobs to. n/t
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:39 AM
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14. Not true
We have been building cars here for forty years, and our plants are still open. I worked for Peterbuilt, certainly not a foreign product. We have GM plants here, as well. The cost of living is cheaper here, therefore the costs of labor are cheaper. We do have foreign auto makers here, too, for that exact reason, I would suppose. That, and the fact that we are a "Right to work" state.
I spent 12 yrs as a steelworker here, and I was a member of two different locals. One was good, the other was a corrupt piece of shit that got shut down permantly.

Why would any industry want to locate in an area where labor and living costs are too high for them to make a profit? They wouldn't. That is why you see them locating in the south. Simple economics. Until wage and living costs get lower in the rust belt, they will continue to head south.

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:24 PM
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18. I did not say the industries would relocate there - I said the workers will migrate there
Just as the "Oakies" moved west into California chasing jobs that didn't exist there it still left the problem of how to deal with tens of thousands of people with no job, no place to live, no place else to go but where its warm.
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:13 AM
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7. The social "safety net" has a lot...
more holes in it in the South.
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Selatius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:20 AM
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10. The first wave would get fucked over if they are union laborers. They would see "right-to-work" laws
Those laws would make it even harder for them to unionize than when they unionized back in the "rust belt" states.
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sufrommich Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:22 AM
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12. It won't be unionizing they'll be worried about.It will be getting
a paycheck,any paycheck.
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 10:24 AM
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13. Plenty of jobs here
I live about 60 miles north of Dallas up on the Oklahoma border. The economy is pretty good here, due mainly to a casino being built and making 4000 good paying jobs. I have apts and lease houses and they are all full. First time I have ever had 100% occupancy!

So, there are pockets of prosperity, you just have to seek them out.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 11:59 AM
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15. to the South --down Mexico way
Jobs and jobseekers will head south and keep on going.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:02 PM
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16. "Is this Senator Shelby's office? Good, can you direct me to your state's welfare office?"
"I'm needing a change of scenery."
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:19 PM
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17. People are leaving Florida right now. It's so bad that even the illegal aliens are moving out.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:33 PM
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19. Betcha there won't be.
Edited on Sat Dec-13-08 12:33 PM by BlooInBloo
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-13-08 12:38 PM
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20. They should all go to Montgomery and Birmingham ...... and then find .......
.... where that motherfucker Shelby lives and camp in his fucking yard.
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