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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:37 PM
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Will bankers be prosecuted?

While Jon Q. Taxpayer would be committing a crime by purposely undervaluing his annual earnings on his tax returns, it appears when a company intentionally misleads investors it’s a lot of harm, but no foul.
http://www.economyincrisis.org/articles/show/2202



Will bankers be prosecuted?


http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/12/11/business/norris12.php

The American public is angry - and rightfully so. Over the past year, they have seen their country’s economy go to hell-in-a-hand basket. As Wall Street executives ran their companies into the ground, taxpayers became responsible for footing the bill to keep Wall Street afloat. In some cases the executives were rewarded with fat bonuses for their obvious malfeasance.

While Jon Q. Taxpayer would be committing a crime by purposely undervaluing his annual earnings on his tax returns, it appears when a company intentionally misleads investors it’s a lot of harm, but no foul.

A U.S. District Court judge wrote in a case brought against mortgage lender Countrywide Financial, that "the federal securities laws do not create liability for poor business judgment or failed operations."

However, the judge did leave the door open for future action against failed companies by stating that "the extraordinary case where a company's essential operations are so at odds with the company's public statements that many statements that would not be actionable in the vast majority of cases" could potentially be the basis of a complaint.

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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:38 PM
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1. not likely! nt
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:39 PM
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2. Now you know why bank robbers were looked on as heroes in the '30s
they were the only ones who did something to the dirty and corrupt bankers of the times. Bankers had a very bad rep during the '30s.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:43 PM
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4. *were* ? /nt
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malletgirl02 Donating Member (938 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 02:10 PM
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9. Kurt Weill and Bertel Brecht
In two of their musicals, Threepenny Opera and the Happy End, Bank owners are compared unfavorably to bank robbers. Quote from the epilogue of The Happy End, "robbing a bank is no crime compared to owning one". There is a really great satiric mock "hymn" to the bank and corporation owners. called "Hosanna Rockefeller". I can't find the lyrics, but when I have time to transcribe it from a recording, I'll post it.
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Clovis Sangrail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:43 PM
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3. the past is a good predictor
how many people went to jail and for how long re: Enron, Worldcom, Aurthur Anderson, et al ?
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:44 PM
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5. I believe they should be, along with
all the others who have bankrupted the country. If found guilty, all of their assets should be seized and turned over to the U.S. Treasury to be used to correct their misdeeds.

It is time to make those who work to destroy our economy in an effort to enrich themselves pay for their damage. Complete asset seizure should send an unmistakeable message.

This would, of course, require some new laws, I think, but would certainly put the fear into the robber barons.
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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 01:43 PM
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7. Agree with that
Edited on Sun Dec-14-08 01:43 PM by Phred42
Treason = forfeit of all assets
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hankthecrank Donating Member (490 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 12:54 PM
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6. law for money, by money calls the shots
On an old take of the saying of Govt for the people, by the people. Its really for money, by money. You peons can just go pound sand. Now where did i put that gilleteen! :sarcasm:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 01:45 PM
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8. of course not
there is no justice in a plutocracy.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-14-08 02:52 PM
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10. When pigs fly ...nt
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