Snow Won't Comment On 18-Day Gap: "I've Been Led To Believe There's A Good Response For It"

[Hissyspit]

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/21/snow-gap

Snow Won’t Comment On 18-Day Gap: ‘I’ve Been Led To Believe There’s A Good Response For It'

Researchers have discovered an 18-day gap in the 3,000 documents on the U.S. Attorney purge released this week by the Justice Department. The gap extends from mid-November to early December, “which was a critical period as the White House and Justice Department reviewed, then approved, which U.S. attorneys would be fired while also developing a political and communications strategy for countering any fallout from the firings.”

During today’s press briefing, CNN’s Ed Henry noted that one of the last emails before the gap is from Attorney General Alberto Gonzales ex-chief of staff Kyle Sampson to then-White House Counsel Harriet Miers, asking, “Who will determine whether this requires the president’s attention?”

White House spokesman Tony Snow refused to explain the gap, telling reporters, “I’ve been led to believe that there’s a good response for it.” He said President Bush “has no recollection of this ever being raised with him.”

http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/20/the-us-attorney-document-gap

The U.S. Attorney document gap.

“In DOJ documents that were publicly posted by the House Judiciary Committee, there is a gap from mid-November to early December in e-mails and other memos, which was a critical period as the White House and Justice Department reviewed, then approved, which U.S. attorneys would be fired while also developing a political and communications strategy for countering any fallout from the firings.”

UPDATE: McClatchy and the AP reprint some noteworthy emails from the documents. March 20, 2007 9:58 pm | Comment (72)

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Posted by Nico March 20, 2007 9:58 pm

[Norquist Nemesis]

1. Careful, Tony! That's what got Scotty in trouble. n/t

[Roland99]

54. That's the 1st thought that hit me, too.

2nd one being the WMD lie ("we were led to believe.....")

[Randy Ranger]

73. Sounds a lot like Nixon's 18 1/2 min of missing tape

We can only hope it ends the same way.

[Hepburn]

79. Anyone else old enough to remember this BS picture of...

...Rosemary Woods?



It does not fly ~~ 18 minutes then.....18 days now ~~ there is simply no difference.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

2. "and we'll tell you what it is

as soon as Rove has thought it up."

[GreenPartyVoter]

13. Teehee!

[benld74]

3. * has no recollection of this ever being raised with him? Anyone see 50 First Dates?!

[Turbineguy]

4. Is Tony Snow

reaching his "Lie Limit"? If so, Bush had better get somebody who can lie more!

[BuyingThyme]

5. Umm... Tony,... Aren't you the Responder?

[Solly Mack]

Having read the emails surrounding the gap, I can well imagine

what the missing emails contain

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=462025&mesg_id=462025

[niceypoo]

28. The Gap starts when the republicans lose the election

Obviously they wanted to stop investigations into Bushes failures and crimes, thats what this whole thing is all about.

[krispos42]

35. "Oh shit, the Dems might supeona these emails!" moment of clarity

lmao

Nail'em to the WALL!!!

[eShirl]

6. not a good reason, a good response

:rofl:

[skypilot]

8. I love it.

I didn't even read any further after I saw that. I suppose he means that he's waiting for someone to tell him what the response should be.

[Hissyspit]

9. He's catapulting the propaganda. n/t

[shadowknows69]

7. Hmmmm

Wasn't the missing time in the Nixon tapes about 18 minutes? Coincidence? Yeah, probably but delicious irony anyway if true.

[IChing]

14. Karma is a bitch that lives in the house of synchronicity

18 minutes, 18 days, 18 years ago Bush sr. came to power.

[shadowknows69]

18. Well there's the trifecta

the horses of the apocalypse should be trotting soon.

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

29. Referring to the fact that 18 is 6-6-6, LOL?

[shanti]

21. number 9

THE END. heh.

[IChing]

24. Yes, in numerology it does mean that.

Very odd, to say the least.

It forms a triangle

[shanti]

25. brings to mind

that old beatles song (oops, showing my age!) :hi:

[fob]

32. Don 't forget about the selection of 2000 when several

repuke candidates won with 18181 votes!

[caledesi]

43. OMG! Yes! I was there...old you see. Where is Rosemary Woods

(Nixon's secretary) when you need her? LOL!

The coincidences are stunning!@

[The Wizard]

38. Speaking of the missing 18 minutes

Arlo Guthrie suggested that since Alice's Restaurant was 18 minutes Nixon didn't want anyone to know he was playing that song. "Can you imagine 50 people a day..............? They might think it's a movement."

[PegDAC]

59. I remember that.

He said he was talking to Chip Carter, and Chip said that he had found a copy of the album in the WH when the Carters moved in.

[kineneb]

65. either Alice's Restaurant or In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida

they are both about the same length and both equally embarrassing...
:hippie:

[The Wizard]

67. Oh yeah

I can see Nixon and Kissinger wearing headphones and groovin' to In-A-Gadda-Da-Vida, swilling Four Roses and snorting Ajax.

[diane in sf]

39. 18 days--19 minutes--It is wonderfully reminiscent

[Wapsie B]

55. I was thinking the same thing.

[FatDave]

42. Exactly what I was going to say.

This is Bush's missing 18 minutes. Only it's 18 days.

[LiberalFighter]

81. How long do binges last?

[louis-t]

46. That was my first thought.

Hmmm, wonder if I can get to the store and play those #s in the lottery. 4-digit, 1818. Yeah, that's it!

[Mayberry Machiavelli]

10. "led to believe" and "no recollection". This is the high quality of information we will

expect from this gang with or without oaths. Sheesh.

"There's a good response for it. I just don't happen to have it here for you right now." LOL

[Supersedeas]

34. why doesn't he say that he got the McClellan treatment

[nadinbrzezinski]

11. 18 minutes, 18 daus, what is the big difference?

Right Tonny

[sinkingfeeling]

16. Where is Rose Mary Woods working now days?

[ladywnch]

62. LMAO! That's the first thing I thought of when I saw this!!!

Isn't that what helped finally bring down tricky Dick! Oh God, wouldn't it be utterly delicious if the same thing happened here!.....(cause ya know, when you take inflation into account, 18 minutes back in 1970's equals 18 days today! :rofl:)

I could see the number 18 being banned by the Republicans as being a demonic number!

[Atman]

Is this a joke? Did Rosemary Woods come back from the grave?

I can't believe this...for you youngsters who don't know the history, Woods was Nixon's secretary, and took the fall for an "18 MINUTE GAP" in Nixon's secret tapes. This sounds almost like an Onion story!

(Stare at the image...it's amazing!)



.

[shadowknows69]

17. I caught that too Atman about 3 posts up

Yeah, we live in the freaking twilight zone don't we. I had the pleasure of seeing Arlo Guthrie in the early 90's and he did an update of Alice's Restaurant where he altered the story to ponder on the significance of the fact that the original AR was about 18 minutes long and that was the missing time in the Nixon tapes. I'm pretty sure this was all predicted by Nostradamus somewhere along the line. Going to dig a fallout shelter now.

[donkeyotay]

63. The American people need to know that their president is not a crook. nt

[ClintonTyree]

76. Nixon was less of a crook...

than this asshole and his toadies. Bush makes Nixon look like an altar boy.

Our pResident IS a crook. Of that there's NO DOUBT. It's time for his assholiness to finally take responsibility for something in his life. The Bush name will forever be synonymous with failure, stupidity and criminal behavior. And I couldn't be happier! :woohoo:

[aint_no_life_nowhere]

12. That is such a convoluted response

He doesn't know the response to why there's a gap. He's not even clear on whether he's been told that there is a good response to it. He's only been led to believe there's a response. In other words, he's been told by others that there's a faith-based feeling that there might be a good reason for the gap.

This is even worse than the WMD "programs" tripe, or Saddam's "programs to think about means to develop a future plan to contemplate the eventual start-up of a committee to oversee the design of candidates for possible programs to develop WMDs, maybe".

[global1]

15. There Is A Good Reason ......

it's the stuff that we don't want you to see. It's the stuff that implicates us in wrong doing.

But we're being generous - you got 3000 other pages to look at.

[shadowknows69]

20. Goverment propaganda spam flood

to distract. That is the game.

[bdamomma]

19. what a lame response from another flea ready to hit the windshield!!

[subterranean]

22. His responses only raised suspicions even higher.

Note that he didn't say that the issue was never raised with Bush -- only that Bush has "no recollection" of it. Apparently, they'd already asked him! How many times can they use the old "I don't recall" defense?

[Atman]

23. The 18-day gap explains why they released such a massive flood of e-mails

I believe they actually thought it would go unnoticed. Remember, these Bush people are as stupid as they are conniving and evil.

.

[peace13]

31. With these people

you look for what they don't say or do for the answers!

[Lil Missy]

26. Shades of the missing 18 minutes in the Nixon tapes?? How ironic.

"I am led to believe there is a good explanation for the missing emails"

What horseshit.

[wallwriter]

30. Just what I was thinking. Snow = Rosemary Woods...

[Javaman]

27. And here is the patented WH response to the missing 18 days emails...

"I don't think anyone could have anticipated December emails..."

[IWantAChange]

33. Do they think EVERYONE is as 'stoopid' as they are - sheesh!!

What, nobody was going to notice???

[maxrandb]

53. No! They know that there

are at least 15-20% of Americans that listen to Limpballs and Insanity 3 hours a day, 5 days a week that are that stupid, and they can always count on that stupidity making it into the Lame-Stream Media.

Tony could tell the press that the "tubes on the internets got clogged up during those 18 days" and Faux and ABC would soon have "experts" on that could verify that "yes, sometimes the tubes get clogged", (even better if they could label them as a Democrat strategist) - and then Hannity would explain that "look, haven't you ever sent an e-mail and gotten an 'unable to deliver' message back".

I can understand that there are 15-20% that will believe anything Faux, or Limpballs, or Insanity tells them, they're idiots. What I don't understand is how that stupidity makes it's way into "legitimate" news programs.

[Tekla West]

36. Mind Blowing

I can't imagine that they couldn't see this coming. For a bunch of thugs they can't even lie well anymore. Yeesh. Indite them, try them, put 'em in jail, this has gone on way too long.

[MGKrebs]

37. Oh man, this is a full-fledged train wreck now.

They got fires all around them. They can't think up BS fast enough. They can't shred fast enough, they can't fire enough people fast enough, and the Repubs in Congress aren't helping.

They are lying, destroying evidence and obstructing justice (in spirit if not technically) even as we speak.

[Nightjock]

40. WOW! This is Bizzaro world!

Is the MSM covering this with an appropriate form of reporting? Someone PLEASE tell me.

I would turn on the tv, but just can't bear to watch the cable news networks (have not watched since 2003.)
I took the advice of a large number of Duers and feel much better.
When I used to watch CNN and MSNBC, I would get SO angry I would scream at the tv and be an all round jerk to anyone in my vicinity.

[Spazito]

48. Snow was asked about the "gap" today at the Press Briefing

I think it was Ed Henry from CNN that asked it. Snow's response was "ask DOJ", lol. He also said he is sure they have a good answer for that question but he doesn't know what it is, roflmao.

[Marie26]

41. Thanks, Tony

Tony has told us:

1.) Bush knew about the planned firings, and received advice on the issue. It WAS raised with him - "No recollection" is just a way to dodge an out & out lie.

2.) There's no good response to this. Otherwise, Tony would have received that "good response" in talking points form. They have no defense, and they know it.

[underpants]

45. "Mistakes were made"

That is the catch phrase for the W legacy.

This is too funny sadly funny but funny none the less.

[PegDAC]

60. Exactly like that bumper sticker...

"Mistakes were made. Others will be blamed."

:evilgrin:

Edited for typo.

[juno jones]

44. With all this alzheimers going around

We oughta impeach them on medical grounds. They fully do not remember about 2/3 of the last 7 years. Not good in a 'decider'.

[maxrandb]

47. I expected him to say

"Barney ate the e-mails"

[Aviation Pro]

49. Why is it always 18?

Nixon....Bush
Nixon....Bush
Nixon....Bush
Nixon....Bush
Nixon....Bush
Nixon....Bush
Nixon....Bush
Nixon....Bush
Nixon....Bush

[LastLiberal in PalmSprings]

61. 6 + 6 + 6 = 18

The mark of the Beast.

[thoughttheater]

50. The Holy Grail?

Defining George Bush: Head...meet board.

See a tongue-in-cheek visual of George Bush once again beating his head with a board...as he searches for the Holy Grail...here:

www.thoughttheater.com

[Mr. Ected]

51. That's EXACTLY Why Dems Must Insist on Sworn Testimony

To FORCE these bastards to remember.

It's the noose around their necks.

[republicansarewhores]

52. Wasn't it 18 minutes that led to Nixon's Resignation?

18! 18! Go 18!

Our new lucky number.

RAW

[yellowcanine]

56. Yes, partially,,,,the 18 minute gap on the tapes. "deja vu all over again", as Yogi Berra would say

Woo hoo. You really can't make this shit up. Oh man, if it turns out that evidence was destroyed we could really be in for some fun times. Popcorn, anyone?

[murielm99]

69. It was more the smoking gun tape.

Nixon did not want to release the unedited tapes.

I'll never forget his press conference, with him standing there in front of a desk full of notebooks. The notebooks contained typed, edited versions of the tapes that he chose to release. He told us, "I am not a crook."

The Supreme Court made him hand over the tapes. The smoking gun tape showed that he had gotten the FBI to back off of the investigation of the Watergate burglary. The smoking gun tape was dated six days after the burglary.

I want a smoking gun e-mail!!!

[eringer]

57. Tony, Tony, Tony...Why did you take that call???

I remember that you said that you couldn't say no to the President when he called to ask you to be his WH spokesman. You should have let the answering machine take the call.

[IsItJustMe]

58. I was young at the time, but didn't Tricky Dick have some tapes missing during the Water Gate days?

I could be wrong.

[stevedeshazer]

64. Here, this may help our post-Watergate younger friends

I was in high school and college during the Nixon years. DU'ers of at least that age will remember vividly but it probably sounds like gibberish to someone under 50.

Long story short, a subpoena'd Nixon magnetic tape recorded in the Oval Office came up with an eighteen minute gap -- which was explained to have been an error on the part of Nixon's secretary, Rose Mary Woods.

Wiki has a decent explanation, if you please: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Watergate_tapes

[SoCalDem]

66. They've worn out that thesaurus (even though *W thought they were talking about a dinosaur)

when he heard the word for the first time (after the '00 election, no doubt)

Just how many ways ARE there to say
"forgot"?

don't recall
can't remember
no recollection
etc
etc
etc

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

68. This is deja vu to Nixon's missing minutes. nt

[elias49]

70. Why isn't this making the news at 6PM???

Especially when you pay attention to Snow's last comment (OOPS!) "...the removal..."
He actually let slip a comment - in reference to Bush's knowledge of the missing 18 days - about the REMOVAL OF ??? What?
What the fuck is wrong with this picture?
What the fuck is wrong with Lou Dobbs?
What the fuck is wrong with CNN?

Indeed what the fuck is wrong with this thread that no-one seems particularly agitated by this, but instead is going all tinfoil about numerology. (Fun, but off the point)
Am I missing something obvious to everyone else?

[MGKrebs]

74. Well, we bitch when the MSM repeats stuff without checking it out,

so we should probably give them 24 hours to get their ducks in a row on this.

[Fovea]

71. Rosemary Woods

only lost 18 minutes.

[Up2Late]

72. Congress should find and put under Lock and Key the Computer Backup tapes or system NOW!

Before those tapes or backup drives are "lost" or erased permanently.:rant: :argh:

[Blackhatjack]

75. "Hey, He has been led to believe ...." So they may be lying? Hmmmm....

Not a very forceful and clear answer... so he did learn from Scotty.

[StefanX]

77. Q: "Who will determine whether this requires the president's attention?" A: The Law

I read somewhere else on DU that there's a law (exec order?) requiring that only the PRESIDENT can fire/hire US Attorneys.

So in this case, Bush can't make an underling fall on their sword.

Anyone remember where this thread was? (It was on Greatest a couple of days ago.)

[TomInTib]

78. I bet they were trying to disenfranchise the mid-term elections.

I would just bet on it.

[Clarkie1]

80. "I have been led to believe...the President has no recollection." Just like Watergate. nt

[Blackhatjack]

82. Just as accurate, Snow could have prefaced his statement "Astrologers believe ..."

Snowjob is just blathering on with what he is given, but he is smart enough to know that nothing they give him is likely to be credible, and he will need to allege 'he was misled' when he leaves this job.