Won't be watching the video...

[gardenista]

I don't celebrate an assault on our president, even Bush.

The segway incident, yep, funny. The pretzel? Same.

An individual hurling objects close enough to hit our president on foreign soil? No. Not funny.

Barack Obama will be our president in a few weeks, and we will emerge from this dark time. I want him safe. I want the Secret Service to do their job. I want him protected and respected.

So, no, I won't join in the party this time.

And I'm ashamed that so many here are.

[Ian David]

1. THIS would have been better...

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/1462916/flying_rc_penis_attack_caught_on_tape/

[gardenista]

6. Now THAT's funny!

Got no problem with that one!

[Name removed]

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[Mind_your_head]

136. The woman laughing on that vid is a total nutjob......it's not that funny. Don't waste your time n/t

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

2. Bush actually showed pretty good reflexes.

[BostonMa]

5. Leave it to you to be the first to praise him, too

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

20. I was surprised he could move that fast.

Leave it for you to see an observation as praise.

David

[sufrommich]

7. I was pretty damned impressed. nt

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

22. Be careful the Earl of Boston there will accuse you of being a freeper.

[Skittles]

58. hits too close to home for you I bet

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

62. Not really, thanks for your concern though.

[Skittles]

66. believe me, I am NOT concerned

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

67. Come now, we both know the truth.

You can admit it, you've always had a thing for Firemen.

David

[Skittles]

71. actually, that is true

there's just....something about firemen.....my virtual husband is a fireman in Australia :7

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

76. and I was just kidding. I bet they run a lot of interesting calls in Australia.

[qwertyMike]

170. Me too n/t

[Sal Minella]

60. Lots of practice dodging things Laura launches at him, I would think.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

64. That's pretty funny.

[gardenista]

78. The exception to the rule. Laura can hurl anything at him she wants

[uppityperson]

3. If Obama does something as asinine as mrbush did, he deserves to be insulted also.

[shanti]

107. somehow

i don't see that happening....won't start none, won't be none. obama isn't a smug, self-righteous shit starter.

[SammyWinstonJack]

176. True that! And I would find it equally as funny. bu$h deserved the insult he got.

[Warpy]

4. Your concern is duly noted.

[gardenista]

11. Oh bite me. I've been here for five years, and I'm no concern troll. nt

[Raschel]

9. I agree.

[panader0]

10. "protected and respected" Surely you jest.

How can you possibly respect that person? How can he go to Iraq, a country he illegally invaded based on lies, a country where his war has killed a million and displaced millions more and get the kind of respect you apparently have for him? Jeez..........

[gardenista]

14. I respect the office of the president, even when it is temporarily

occupied by a buffoon of unprecedented proportions.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

18. Those shoes, in case you hadn't noticed,

weren't thrown at the Office of the President.

They were thrown at a murderer who was in that office illegally.

[TomInTib]

49. Right on the mark, T LB.

Right on the mark.

[SammyWinstonJack]

177. !!!

:thumbsup: This nationalistic USA crap is exactly that...CRAP! bu$h deserved the insult he got and he is lucky that all that was thrown at him, were shoes.

[tekisui]

25. His authority is NOT legitimate.

[gardenista]

32. If you knew how to read

You would see that I want Obama protected and respected.

[haydukelives]

53. ?

[Bluebear]

12. The pretzel? 2001. The Segway, 2003. I'm beyond feeling sorry for "our president on foreign soil"

[kayakjohnny]

13. You seem to be assuming he's legit as a prez, when almost everyone on earth agrees he's not.

So your premise seems to have a slight flaw. But kind of an obvious one.

[Bake]

171. Well, he's managed to hold the office for eight years.

So legitimate or not, he's still the "President."

Bake

[Kahuna]

15. Oh, boo hoo hoo..

:nopity:

[gardenista]

17. Who's crying?

There's a difference between that and disgust for what this board has become.

[Kahuna]

19. "Has become???" We ALWAYS hated bush! Where have you been?

:shrug:

[Tangerine LaBamba]

33. What Kahuna said........

What's with these people who somehow think we're rightwingnuts who love Chimpy Fucknuts?

Who think we actually respect this war criminal/thug/murderer/usurper/pretender?

[qwlauren35]

81. A Quick History Lesson.

DU is almost exactly 8 years old - launched on the day that Bush took office. I think it's fair to say that its very purpose and existence center around a united disgust, distrust and dismay for George W. Bush.

As such, laughter at flying shoes is apropos.

Sad to say, there are some here who would cheer if he was assassinated. I myself have never wanted him murdered. But a heart attack... well, no tears.

[ananda]

16. Bush is not my president.

He stole both elections and has systematically
destroyed this country and its reputation.

So.. what's to demean?

I expect shoes are demeaned by association.

[gardenista]

24. So...if the same happened to Obama and freepers rejoiced

because they take a similar stance, where are you?

[uppityperson]

28. If Obama were responsible for the Iraq debacle & a journalist who'd been kidnapped, tortured, threw

a shoe at him? I would think it was a fine gesture.

[GReedDiamond]

21. Protected?

Of course, he should be protected, so he may later stand trial for his war crimes against humanity.

Respected?

I don't think so. Why would a war criminal deserve respect from anybody, especially an Iraqi whose country was destroyed by that war criminal?

[gardenista]

26. Can't read? No one is asking for Bush to be respected here

but the office of the president? Yes.

The panting hoard here is absolutely disgusting.

[GReedDiamond]

41. Dear mgdecombe,

Yes, I can READ. And I have critical thinking skills, something you may want to look into.

The "office" that you so dearly respect and cherish has been defamed and tarnished for generations to come by a war criminal.

So, as was previously suggested, go fuck yourself with your "can't read" horseshit, you self-righteous blowhard.

Also, what's "disgusting" is your lack of empathy for a man whose country has been raped and pillaged (in OUR NAME and with OUR NATIONAL TREASURES, both material and HUMAN), to the point where, in your feeble little mind, "respect for the office of the President" transcends mass murder in importance and significance.

Idiot.

Sincerely,
freshwidow

[gardenista]

51. Critical thinking?

Try a basic logic class next semester.

Do you support assaults on President Obama? I suppose it will be only a matter of weeks until you find reasons to claim that he deserves such treatment as well.

[haydukelives]

56. ?

[GReedDiamond]

68. mgdecombe....

...I don't support assaults on anybody.

Your "Obama" analogy is a red herring argument, not applicable to this situation, except in the scenario where, as has already been offered by a previous poster, Obama had committed WAR CRIMES and had a similar incident happen.

I'll give you a clue, genius: WAR CRIMINALS are subject to whatever justice they are served with, however it ends up happening. I would prefer a War Crimes Tribunal at the Hague for the various members of the Bush Crime Family, Bush and Cheney being the numbers one and two prosecuted.

WAR CRIMINALS do NOT get ANY RESPECT FOR ANY REASON.

Your Obama analogy is as full of shit as you apparently are.

[malaise]

57. Couldn't say it better so I repeat

Also, what's "disgusting" is your lack of empathy for a man whose country has been raped and pillaged (in OUR NAME and with OUR NATIONAL TREASURES, both material and HUMAN), to the point where, in your feeble little mind, "respect for the office of the President" transcends mass murder in importance and significance.

Bravo!!

[GReedDiamond]

70. Thanks for the emphasis on that point.

The idea that the symbolic significance of an "office" is more important than the destruction of a Nation (or two or three or more) and it's People is beyond any kind of reason. I'm stunned by this sort of nationalistic jingoism.

[gardenista]

74. So it's nationalistic jingoism to object to an assault attempt on Obama?

I guess there's the chance that he might do something you disagree with in the future, so yeah, I guess so.

Nope, I don't want to see even the shrub assaulted. Sorry.

As for nationalistic jingoism, if the same happened to Obama, I'd be livid. In this case, with shrub, I just don't feel like joining the party, and I think you are all playing right into the hands of the MM and Rove, giving them lots of great material. Congratulations. You do DU proud.

[malaise]

80. WTF does this have to do with Obama

Bush is an insult to the office.

[gardenista]

99. It's the office, not the man.

[Midlodemocrat]

119. Not in this case. It's obviously the man. The disgusting pseudo human that is Bush.

[pipi_k]

168. If that's how you want to see him, then fine....

but there are those among us who didn't...don't now...and never will...view him as anything other than a usurper to the Presidency.

Be outraged if you choose to be.

But don't visit your finger wagging upon people who feel that Bush himself has done more to sully the entire White House than any justifiably angry Iraqi who flings his shoes at W's face could ever do.


And I'll tell you what....I'm an equal opportunity "deserves what he gets" type of person. I voted for Obama, but if he were to do the same things Bush has done, I'd be cheering on whomever tossed a shoe in his face as well.

So that's the bottom line.



You see the "Office"

Others here see "The man"



Do not even try to insist that he holds that office legitimately!!! If some of us don't believe Bush is in the White House legitimately, then that means we don't believe he is really President. And if he isn't President, then that Iraqi journalist didn't even come close to insulting "The office".


Save the outrage for things like little Iraqi children with their limbs or faces blown off....not an angry man who "insults" the office of President by throwing a shoe at him.

[GReedDiamond]

83. Whatever you say. I could give a flying fuck what Rove thinks...

...but, the thing is, you do a disservice to the victims of the WAR CRIMINAL whose OFFICE you hold in such high esteem.

Unfortunately, you are a nothing more than an apologist for someone who will go down in History as synonymous with Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, etc., as the bloody pages of history keep repeating themselves.

As long as WE the PEOPLE keep "respecting" political figures who commit mass murder, political figures will continue to commit mass murder.

[gardenista]

85. Believe what you want

This is not about apologizing for bush.

[GReedDiamond]

89. Oh yeah?

Then stop hiding behind the "respect the office of the President" argument, in which you conveniently dismiss the gravity of the WAR CRIMES that Bush's victim (the "shoe thrower") was throwing his fucking shoes over...as if the shoes would have done anything more than bruise Bushler, had they actually made contact with him.

[GReedDiamond]

87. I do DU proud?!

I'm not the WAR CRIMINAL APOLOGIST who uses insults to prop up otherwise empty arguments about the significance of the "office of the President" over the WAR CRIMES committed by the current Oval Office squatter (NOT OBAMA, Mr. Red Herring).

[cwydro]

173. You might want to reread the DU rules

about attacking a fellow DUer.

I see you're new, so perhaps that is why.

[tekisui]

23. FUCK that War Criminal! I am happy that someone hurled their shoe at him

I hope it follows him everywhere from now until his death. He deserves worse. It was funny, I wish it had hit him!

[Kali]

27. oh please

he is just a (shitty) "elected" official, not a king or savior (much as he deludes himself) He deserves nothing BUT disrespect. This incident wasn't just "on foreign soil" it was in a country he has literally DESTROYED. Imagine the emotions of the man who finally had to do SOMETHING about that smirking dickwad coming to preen about saving his people and "giving" them democracy.:puke: :puke: Boosh was given EXACTLY the cultural greeting he actually deserved.

[petronius]

29. I don't find it funny, either. I don't approve when any public figures are assaulted with

anything, and I'm not going to rationalize that it's OK this time just because I don't like Bush...

[gardenista]

35. Voice of reason.

Honestly, I guess I'm an old codger, but the celebratory threads are beyond my understanding.

I would much rather celebrate the incredible change we are about to experience than play into the hands of the conservative media, who will have a field day with some of the posts on this subject.

[readmoreoften]

162. But you're not crying over the PTSD of the journalist who threw the shoe, caused by Bush.

So Bush gives an edict that kills hundreds of thousands of people, permits the torture of thousands, and when someone damaged by these monsters "throws a shoe" at the culprit, you cry about propriety? Give me a break.

Talk about blaming the victim. You're not reasonable. You're detached from reality. There's a really big difference between the two.

[DutchLiberal]

92. If said public figure nukes a country back to the Middle Ages, I say fuck him!

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[Swamp Rat]

31. You make a very good point. However...

Barack Obama did not murder approximately one million of your countrymen, including babies, toddlers, and children in general.

[Ichingcarpenter]

34. "to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile",

"The President is merely the most important among a large number of public servants. He should be supported or opposed exactly to the degree which is warranted by his good conduct or bad conduct, his efficiency or inefficiency in rendering loyal, able, and disinterested service to the Nation as a whole.

Therefore it is absolutely necessary that there should be full liberty to tell the truth about his acts, and this means that it is exactly necessary to blame him when he does wrong as to praise him when he does right. Any other attitude in an American citizen is both base and servile.

To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.

Nothing but the truth should be spoken about him or any one else. But it is even more important to tell the truth, pleasant or unpleasant, about him than about any one else."

"Teddy Roosevelt in the Kansas City Star",


Bug off.

[gardenista]

44. nice quote.

but irrelevant in this instance.

Where do you see the assault part?

Tell the truth about his acts. Yes.
Blame him when he does wrong. Yes.
Praise him when he does right? Well, there has not been ONE thing to praise.

"Throw shoes at him"- I can't find that passage...

Bug off? No one asked you to post in this thread. Do you oppose my right to state my opinion? Who's the servile one?

[petronius]

45. That's an excellent and patriotic statement by President Roosevelt. How do you

think he would feel about people throwing shoes at a president? :shrug:

[Ichingcarpenter]

55. Roosevelt would have done it himself

if he had had the chance. Bush can't hide behind the office
as a badge of honor.

[petronius]

73. I'm sure he's grateful (if he's anything at all) that you're here to speak for him...

:rofl:

[gardenista]

75. !

:toast:

[Ichingcarpenter]

88. Your OP was an epic fail

Whatever you're selling people don't buy it and you don't get it.

[gardenista]

96. Old punchline. Come up with another.

Not selling anything here. Why does it bother you so much that I'd rather celebrate something that really counts rather than wallow in bush hate?

[Ichingcarpenter]

109. Seems you want to wallow in something else

Which is defending a war criminal.

[JANdad]

150. WOW

17000 posts in one year...how dooooo you do it?

[DutchLiberal]

94. WTF?! You just asked him YOURSELF how HE would think TR would reply...

[petronius]

126. Yeah, I remember. Ponder it for a while, and perhaps you'll eventually come

to a glimmer of an understanding about my opinion of the other poster's use of the TR quote, and his interpretation of TR's attitudes.

Here's a hint if you're stumped: don't take everything you read so literally...

[DutchLiberal]

160. You painted yourself in a corner and now you can't get out...

You asked how how he thought TR would reply, then he tells, then you ridicule him for telling...

It makes you look stupid, not him or me...

[petronius]

178. Try again. (I don't feel like spelling it out for you...) nt

[DutchLiberal]

181. Nah, if you don't get it by now, I quit. n/t

[countingbluecars]

36. I think this trip was

just a photo op to prop up his legacy. Just pictures for his library and the rewriting of history. So yeah, I think it's great that somebody ruined the moment for him.

[gardenista]

40. I'll agree with you on your original premise

Pathetic legacy photo op. Pathetic.

But believe me, he doesn't need a physical assault to ruin the moment for him. He takes care of that himself.

Actually, this incident saved the moment for him.

[hisownpetard]

110. I think he took the trip 'cause he just wanted to get away to a country where

the economy is better than ours.

[fascisthunter]

37. give me a fucking break

[katmondoo]

38. Destroying a Country, killing a million people, creating

5 million orphans, lying for a war is something to be honored for. Should we give him a medal of Honor because he is a President. He dishonored the American people and brought destruction and chaos to a nation without just cause. He gets the finger from me when ever I see his lying face. Bush is a President of no honor and deserving of no respect.

[DainBramaged]

42. I can add allowing the emptying of the treasury, enriching his oil buddies

killing nearly 5000 of our Fathers Mothers, Sister and Brothers, Sons and Daughters, and wounding nearly 100,000 of them.


If I were close enough, I'd throw a shoe at the little sack of shit myself.


Walk a mile in the shoes of the dead and get back to us OP.

[Catherine Vincent]

39. Come on, watch it!

You will bust a gut. He wasn't hurt.

[spanone]

43. it was a symbolic 'assault' like giving him the finger in another language....

[gardenista]

46. Give the finger? Yeah! I'm all for it.

It's the throwing part I don't like.

Show him the soles of your shoes? Go for it. Hurl them in his face? Nu uh.

[4 t 4]

47. WHOSE president? Never was mine I don't care what you think

I doubt anyone will ever throw shoes at Obama, because he is not an embarrassment of a human being.

[haydukelives]

48. excuse me

i'm laughing my ass off.

[4 t 4]

59. Excuse You. He didn't win the election. Check

your history books in about 30 years.

[RedCappedBandit]

50. Bush has come to deserve such treatment. Hopefully, Obama won't.

The fact that he is "president" is irrelevant IMO.

[gardenista]

52. "Hopefully Obama won't" WOW

Here are some needles, Madame LeFarge.

[Are_grits_groceries]

164. Madame DeFarge.

Madame LeFarge must be in another book,

[Skittles]

54. oh go bite yourself

that bastard deserves to rot in hell - a couple of fucking shoes is NOTHING - and perhaps you have accepted that thieving, lying, incompetent piece of SHIT as your president but I never have and NEVER WILL

[Mari333]

63. oh hell yes n/t

[RedCappedBandit]

65. agreed

[gardenista]

69. sorta shocked to see an old timer on this bandwagon, but ok

I would rather celebrate what's ahead- an intelligent, thoughtful president who will make an honest effort to clean up the debacle.

And I don't want it to be "ok" to throw anything at Obama.

Old fashioned, I guess.

[Skittles]

72. not old fashioned

just out of the fucking loop

[Kali]

124. I can do both.

Celebrate finally having a president who deserves respect, AND revel in boosh getting the perfect send off from a victim of his biggest fuck-up.

[Lucian]

146. Amen.

[Mari333]

61. he was never the president.

save your outrage for the 4000 plus soldiers he allowed to be murdered. AND the hundreds of thousands of iraqis his admin murdered.
a little shoe? pfft. try feeling sorry for someone murdered by an IED in an illegal war or a bomb that blows up a whole family.
and you are concerned over a shoe being thrown at some guy sitting in the white house who was never the president.

[Dervill Crow]

77. He didn't seem that bothered by it.

I'm not amused; I'm amazed.

[4 t 4]

79. You should be ashamed you are

calling him OUR president. He is not and never was my president, he didn't win. Again check your history books in about 30 years.

[damntexdem]

82. I enjoy watching it; and would like a copy.

And it was not an "assault" -- it was an Iraqi form of protest.

Meanwhile, PARTY, PARTY, PARTY!

Party unashamed.

[Pastiche423]

84. What is this "our" president shit?

He was never elected to the office. I don't have one iota of respect for that thief and murderer. And I get mighty suspicious of anyone that does.

I only wish it would have been an entire country full of shoes thrown at him.

[SidDithers]

86. That's OK, I'll watch it twice in your honor...nt

Sid

[LiberalHeart]

90. You should watch the video to see what the Secret Service failed to do.

If that's what they call protection, Obama's in trouble.

[gardenista]

93. Indeed.

Let's hope that the A-team was busy already with Obama.

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[Independent_Thinker]

97. So you are advocating violence?

How again are you different from a right-wing nutjob saying the same after the 20th of Jan?

Remember to respect the office, and wish no one ill-will. I thought this was a peace loving progressive website.

[Mari333]

100. no respect for a war criminal. and hes not the president. n/t

[DutchLiberal]

101. I will respect the office when it's occupied by a person who deserves my respect...

Bush isn't deserving of my respect, or anybody's respect for that matter.

"How again are you different from a right-wing nutjob saying the same after the 20th of Jan?"

Er... maybe because the right-wingers want him dead because of the color of his skin? Or because he has a funny name? Or merely the fact that he's a "librul"? Has Obama invaded a country, based on lies, only to fill the pockets of his rich corporate friends? Has Obama ordered hundreds of people tortured, and held them for 5 or 6 years at a concentration camp? Has Obama outed a covert CIA operative just because he wanted to get revenge on her husband for calling him out on his bullshit?

I will never, ever understand how George Bush can still be alive today. They killed John and Robert Kennedy, they killed Martin Luther King, yet George war criminal Bush lives?

[Independent_Thinker]

108. Sounds like you want

the same outcome today as the right wing nuts of tomorrow. You are the same as them. We get a chance to voice our opinion at the ballot box, not in the streets and never to advocate violence against a sitting president.

[DutchLiberal]

114. Stop talking about the 'right wing nuts' in third person. You're one of them, you nut!

I have no doubt if George Bush and Dick Cheney had been killed (wether it be in an accident, or from disease, or a bombing or whatever) 8 years ago, the world would have been a much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much, much better place.

[uppityperson]

129. We don't have the "chance" to voice our opinion in the streets?

Huh.

[Greyhound]

130. I'm sure the founding "terrorists" of this country would approve of that belief.

...why bother.
:eyes

[Catherine Vincent]

123. Why?

Do you wish to see him hurt or killed?

Not cool.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

128. .....killing everyone in the room........

Idiot.

[Independent_Thinker]

95. Here Here... I Agree

We need to remember that Bush for now is our President. And we should always respect him. Obama will be President soon, and will get the same respect. We are Americans first.

[Mari333]

98. bush never was and never has been the president

his admin is responsible for the murder of over 4000 soldiers and millions of iraqi men women and children. there is nothing to respect. nothing. he is a traitor. and a murderer. and a liar.
he should be tried for war crimes, along with his whole cabal.
a shoe?
he deserves to be in prison for life for what hes done.

[Independent_Thinker]

103. Yes he does

for the same reason that Obama does - he was elected. We transfer power peacefully in this country. We use the power of the vote to change.

Murder requires intent. How will you prove intent?

Also liar, requires intent and foreknowledge of the lie. How will you prove this? And both under what law? The senate voted repeatedly to allow the war and gave its open consent in the continued funding. You make it sound like this was his personal war.

You need to be practical. Let him slide into history, like Clinton (who did nothing will 850,000 were butchered in Rawanda) and let his history judge him.

[Mari333]

105. no he was selected by SCOTUS and then again by Diebold

go back to FR.

[Independent_Thinker]

115. Nice, try...

But I think for myself and any discussion on something that happened 8 years ago that will not change is not very apropo

[uppityperson]

132. You say we should respect him 'cause he was elected then say any discussion based on his getting

elected is "not very apropo (sic)". If you believe someone should be respected for getting elected, that is basing respect on "something that happened 8 years ago" and is not very "apropo (sic)".

[LanternWaste]

166. Delete - Poster's gone buh-bye...

Delete - Poster's gone buh-bye...

[DutchLiberal]

102. Somehow I get the feeling you won't be around for long here...

[Independent_Thinker]

104. Sorry for my respect for the President.

I guess that is an American value that is passé

[Mari333]

111. here is *YOUR* president's american values

[DutchLiberal]

112. Yeah, I bet you really respected president Clinton, now, didn't you?

:eyes:

Go crawl back under the rock you came from.

Respect is to be deserved. Respecting somebody for the sake of respecting, is the dumbest thing I've ever read.

You know what? I'll take back my words. I don't wish the guy had thrown a hand grenade. I wish Bush just was impeached, arrested, trialed, convicted and locked up for the rest of his fucking miserable life.

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[DutchLiberal]

116. I'm going to bed.

(Yes, over here it's long past bedtime. Enjoy the freeper as long as you can.)

[Independent_Thinker]

121. Actually...

I did respect Clinton - he was the president. I met him once at a function.

Try again. I think for myself and you keep trying to paint everyone into red and blue state

[uppityperson]

133. Yup, blindly "respecting" someone for an office is thinking for yourself.

I don't know if I'll even take time to welcome you.

[Qibing Zero]

167. I'm glad someone said it.

'Independent Thinker' my ass.

[tkmorris]

127. I'm pretty sure the Iraqis were told to respect their president circa 2001 as well

I respect men and women for WHO and WHAT they are, not for whatever title they have managed to cajole, steal, wheedle, and lie their way into. I don't believe you are as "independent" a thinker as you claim to be friend.

[Lucian]

148. I have that feeling also.

[uppityperson]

131. Why should we always respect mrbush? I guess you do not believe in having

opinions based on reality. Nowhere is it written that the president MUST be respected, or even SHOULD be respected.

[Marr]

144. Just a tip-- the thing that makes you transparent is your

blind respect for authority.

I don't care what titles these wealthy pricks bequeath upon one another-- and yes, the title of President was bequeathed to Bush-- he did not earn it in any way. I won't pretend to respect an arrogant fool just because he's got a nice title.

[Lucian]

147. Fuck Bush.

I'll never respect that warmongering piece of shit.

[LanternWaste]

165. Delete - Poster's gone buh-bye...

Delete - Poster's gone buh-bye...

[JackRiddler]

106. What was he doing "on foreign soil"? Invasion? Killing that man's friends?

I agree, a shoe is not the way. I look forward to a proper trial and the lawful penalty for treason, war crimes and genocide.

[DutchLiberal]

120. You couldn't even get the guy impeached, yet you're talking about 'lawful penalty'?

Get real, this motherfucker will spend the rest of his days sipping of piña coladas on the beaches of some Latin-American paradise, paid for by the millions of dollars he has stolen from the American tax payers. Then when he dies, he will be buried in the US with all the honors and all the regards and all presidents after him and all the media will mourn him, just like they did with Ronny Raygun.

[JackRiddler]

158. You may be right...

It wasn't up to me, however. And I won't have you extinguish all my optimism, okay?

Efforts for justice are still underway, however laughable they may seem to you. This is a time of flux. Pinochet was held in Britain for a few months many years after his crimes, and still got away, but that was a step forward, no? After Jan. 20th, a lot of people may be willing to talk who were silent until now. Next year is going to be one of the worst ever for the United States, and somehow I think people will retain enough memory to know the Bush regime is largely responsible. So let's see where we are in a couple of years.

[Jamastiene]

117. Here we go again.

:popcorn:

[proud2BlibKansan]

118. It's a cultural message

It's no different than flipping him the bird here in the US. Would you not do that either?

[gardenista]

139. Love the bird flipping.

Flip away. Any time I get the opportunity I will flip off that faux cowboy.

Just no throwing. Of anything. Not cool.

Yes, and showing the soles is a cultural message, too. That would be enough for me.

A better cultural message would be a trial for war crimes, yes.

[pettypace]

122. Posters on DU say they countenance the act

But as I remarked on another post, no one would carry out such an idiotic act in real life.

Bush has already got his comeuppance politically - the election of Barack Obama (and on a smaller note heavy Democratic majorities in congress). He will be remembered in putrid terms by popular opinion and analysis. No need to wish physical harm to him...it makes him more sympathetic on the contrary.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

138. what comeuppance - Bush wasn't up for reelection

But other than that, he is the least popular president in decades.

[snake in the grass]

143. Comeuppance?

You're joking, right? Bush didn't run this year and will most likely die an old man in a comfortable bed. This is a man who has the blood of millions on his hands if we count all those directly and indirectly affected by his bumbling greed and psychopathic disregard for life.

It was just a pair of shoes and was probably the closest this bastard will ever come to justice.

I contend that if he were to suffer physical harm, I'm sure there would be more people worldwide who would rejoice than those who would have pity on him.

[Creationismsucks]

125. You have got to be kidding --SHOES

You're upset about shoes man, a fucking pair of shoes, alright? If it were something seriously harmful, you might have a point. If the shoe-target was anything less than this c***, after all he's done, you might have a point.

As it stands, I want to buy this guy dinner.

Give me a 42-karat break.

[Canuckistanian]

134. This wasn't just a President...This was a MAN.

A man who brought misery, death, destruction and shame to a nation that was guilty of NO CRIMES AGAINST THE US.

I could care less if that man occupies the same address as Lincoln, JFK and Bill Clinton. He has no right to walk the same earth with as much respect. Nor will history give it to him.

Look, Saddam is LONG DEAD. All that's left in Iraq is a people reeling from a catastrophe that is none of their doing.

I can understand their hatred. I feel their hatred.

I cannot blame them for their hatred.

[Pithlet]

135. Of all the board nannying finger wagging

This one takes the cake.

[WillYourVoteBCounted]

137. speak for yourself, he's not "OUR" president

maybe he is "yours", but a whole lot of us don't claim him.

[Hubert H. Hubert]

140. OH NOES TEH PRETZELDINT IS BEING A SALTED!!!11

OH TEH HUMANITIES!!!!!!!!!1111


You're funny.

[Bluebear]

141. AND STOCKED!!!11

[pipi_k]

175. IT MUST BE THE ED TIMES!!!!!!!111!!!!

WHEN SATIN CALLS FOURTH HIS MINYONS TO STRIKE FEAR INTO THE HEARTS OF GOOD CHRISTAINS EVERYWEAR IN THE NAME OF UNHOLY SHOES THROWING INTO THE FACE OF OUR GRATE LEEDER GOERGE W BUSH!!!!!!!!1111

AND APACALYPSO DANCING!!!!


REPENT YOU SINNERS!!!!

[Withywindle]

142. I think Obama will be protected and respected.

The whole world was watching our election, and the response was almost unanimous joy. People are remarkably forgiving. I bet even most Iraqis WISH they could like us - we've just made that impossible for them.

Bush is such a collossal fuckup I am delighted to see him being insulted and disrespected, anywhere. He's earned it. I'm looking forward to seeing the contrast in reception that Obama will get - and I just pray he won't disappoint people too much (it's inevitable that he will, somewhat, after all). If he gets the level of respect in the world that Bill Clinton got and still has, that will be fine.

[Lucian]

145. It's too bad the fucking shoes didn't hit Bush.

I'm disagreeing with you here.

[Political Tiger]

149. I understand your point

But still, you gotta admit it was funny....and if anyone deserved to get bopped up aside the head with a shoe it's Bush!

[lonestarnot]

151. Go directly to hell!

[AzDar]

152. Fuck George W. Bush and HIS illegal war.

He's DECIMATED that country.

He deserves no respect and neither do any who defend him.

[CBGLuthier]

153. He isn't OUR president

Unelected fraud deserves nothing. NOTHING! but contempt.

I would suggest you save your shame for him. He is the shame of the world.

[harun]

154. B*sh is there as a political stunt to try and sell the idea that this war was

needed for American security and worth the cost in terms of life and wealth.

Your concern is noted and a complete waste of my time.

[trumad]

155. Let's talk about this for a moment...

ow many Iraqi's were killed by George W. Bush? Thousands? Tens of thousands?...

And one Iraqi pulls off his shoes and flings it at George and you get all huffy about it.

Fuck George Murdering Bush.

[varkam]

156. You do understand that the shoes were thrown at him because he's Bush, not because he's POTUS...

right?

[Iggo]

157. It was a SHOE...and it was hilarious. (n/t)

[Hell Hath No Fury]

159. If BarackObama ever engages in any of the crap...

Bush Co., has been involved with the past 8 years, I will be the first one flinging my shoe at him. :mad:

You earn respect -- it is not taken or demanded.

Bush's behavior has earned him every bit or derision and disrespect he has gotten.

[uppityperson]

161. You won't watch the video even to see what it was? Yet you have a strong opinion on it?

Educate yourself.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

163. I would celebrate if he had gotten a black eye or something

He deserves so much worse than flying shoes.

[Dukkha]

169. oh boy, another one of those people

we're all really impressed with your pretentious self-righteous grandstanding, and really heartbroken you're so ashamed of us all.

NOT!

get a life loser!

[holograms r us]

172. That is fine with me but do you own/watch tv? 'Cause it's all over the place

It would be very difficult to avoid seeing the incident if you watch the boob tube.

[cwydro]

174. I watched the video.

And I did think it was funny.

But I also get your point.

DU has unfortunately become a hatefest.

[Blarch]

179. The hate is justified.

[uppityperson]

180. Well, don't worry. He's been beaten and is in Camp Cropper now.

They will/are taking care of him. You can be proud of that.