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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:51 PM
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Secret fund behind £33bn Madoff scam is uncovered
Edited on Mon Dec-15-08 01:52 PM by emad
Investigators have identified a secret, unregistered money-management business they say former Nasdaq chairman Bernard Madoff may have used to run a $50 billion (£33.4 billion) fraudulent pyramid-style scheme.

The business was run alongside his firm's brokerage and investment-advisory units, and was housed on a floor at his Manhattan headquarters to which few staff had access, and which was not linked to the other floors the firm occupied.

Prosecutors and the US Securities and Exchange Commission say Madoff has confessed that his advisory business, which catered to rich people, institutional investors and hedge funds, was "all just one big lie", and the business had been insolvent for years.

But its operations remain a mystery, with investigators trying to figure out where customers' money went. Madoff, 70, told his sons last week he had as much as $300 million left, according to an SEC allegation lodged with a federal court in Manhattan. The agency is looking for additional money that may be recovered for victims.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/standard-business/article-23601737-details/Secret+fund+behind+33bn+Madoff+scam+is+uncovered/article.do


THIS is begining to smell a bit like the unravelling of Enron.

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The_Casual_Observer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:58 PM
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1. I'm always astounded that in the high-tech information/analytical age we live in
that old school fraud like this can still happen on such a grand scale.
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ayeshahaqqiqa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:58 PM
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2. I hope this guy didn't get any bailout money from the government n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 01:58 PM
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3. Where customers' money went?
I would bet the Israeli lobby. Madoff has dual citizenship. I read on a strange website that Mossad has taken its biggest hit to date.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 04:46 PM
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6. Why are you spreading lies?
Dual Citizenship? Mossad? You read it on strange website?

Why would you believe what was written on this "strange website"?

What is your agenda here?
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 02:40 PM
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7. Mossad Pension Fund hit for $900 million in Madoff Ponzi scam
SNIP:
...
Madoff, 69, is said to have asked for FBI protection after rumors of irate Israeli spooks sending out a posse to 'nail his thieving ass' for the pyramid scheme....

http://www.thespoof.com/news/spoof.cfm?headline=s3i45161
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-16-08 05:24 PM
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8. Are you trying to be funny?
That is from a website called "The Spoof" - they are fake headlines and fake stories.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 05:56 AM
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9. Ah, you noticed!
Edited on Wed Dec-17-08 05:57 AM by emad
"The story above is a satire or parody. It is entirely fictitious"...

Looks like the author queen mudder certainly spoofed you.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:33 AM
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10. What are you talking about?
Someone posted here that they read on a "strange website" something about Mossad. Did that person realize that it was from a spoof site? If so, that has not been made clear.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 09:31 AM
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13. Maybe the spoof site and the 'strange' site were two entirely
different websites!
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 10:15 AM
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14. In any case, the "story" is fake
That is my point.
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emad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 03:51 PM
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15. I think most of us have got there by now!
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:42 AM
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 02:03 PM
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4. The building he was in was called "The Lipstick Building"
With all the inferences on 'lipstick and a pig' this political season
I thought that was ironically amusing.






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Ioo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-15-08 02:14 PM
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5. I blame the gays - I am sure it will come out it is our fault.
It always is as of late.

- We caused Katrina
- We caused GM to make crappy cars (maybe they should hire a few as designers)
- We caused AIDS
- We caused the Tsunami
- We caused the San Fran Earthquake
- Blame us for the flooding in the mid-west
- 9/11, that was our fault
- The lass of the Redskins to the Bangles, yep, I did it.
- The mortgage meltdown, the gays...
- Global Warming, us
- We caused the great depression
- We caused WWII and maybe WWI (Archduke Ferdinande may have known a gay)

I could go on and on... so on behalf of the gays, we will take this as well, because it only a matter of time before we are blamed anyway.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:45 AM
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12. Sweetie....you aren't "pure" enough....
...it is the "gay Jews!" Trust me, being gay and Jewish, makes me more powerful than the anti-Christ. I am a "fike" or is it "kag?" Who knows? The gas will be just as deadly.
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