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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:30 PM
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Is it appropriate for a male boss to give a gift to a female subordinate
Nothing nefarious. The woman's husband is a real organic chemist: everything that he touches turns into crap. He was a mortgage broker that lost his job last year and since then decided to be "the best father that he can be" to their two small children. They had two houses that they bought with nothing down, two expensive leased cars, finally declared bankruptcy and moved out. And now, she is pregnant again.

My friend would like to offer her, say, $20 for Christmas but I think that this can have bad implications, no matter how honorable his intentions are.

I think that, perhaps, a gift certificate for $20 may be better.

These days, with perceptions often are worse than facts, what do DUers here think?

Thanks.

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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:31 PM
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1. Definitely a gift certificate would be much better. No one should give cash.
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HereSince1628 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:43 PM
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14. Is that a miss manners thing? Please explain why cash is so bad.
Thanks.
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:47 PM
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17. Frankly, I think it's tacky, loaded, and in a job setting, unprofessional. If you have the money to
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 12:49 PM by ogneopasno
throw around, give the person a raise, or tack on a holiday bonus to the paycheck. You get cash from your grandma, not your boss.

ETA: As someone else mentions below, cash doesn't look like a gift, it looks like charity or a handout, which can be embarrassing to the recipient. A gift certificate or debit card can look more like a gift.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:32 PM
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2. A gift certificate-- perhaps fora local moderate priced restaurant
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 12:32 PM by hlthe2b
that she could use to treat her entire family would seem very appropriate to me.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:32 PM
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3. I say gift cert for sure.
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 01:12 PM by Richardo
You can get them as branded (MC/Visa/Amex) debit cards so she could use them anywhere.
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:35 PM
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7. Excellent idea -- even better than a gift certificate, and less tacky than cash.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:38 PM
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11. This is a great idea
I wonder where one gets one. From a bank?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:56 PM
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19. I want to post a Dilbert strip about gift certs, but I can't find it.
What it says is harsh but it's the truth.

I'm in favor of physical gifts myself. Not gift certs, and certainly not money.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:44 PM
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24. Ah, found it. Well, a transcript of the animated cartoon.
But I'm sure there was a printed script with this exact dialogue. Or am I confabulating?

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0560466/quotes

Alice: A gift certificate is completely different from cash.
Dilbert: No, it's not. They're both pieces of paper you can exchange for goods and services.
Alice: You're missing the point.
Dilbert: Actually, a gift certificate is worse than cash, because you can only use it in one place.
Wally: And it expires.
Alice: At least it shows some thought.
Dilbert: It shows defective thought. You're trading perfectly good money for something that does the same thing, only not as well.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:33 PM
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4. I dont see a problem
If it were the other way around, a subordinate giving a gift to a boss, there could be more issues raised. But $20 is not really an amount that should raise flags regardless.

Maybe a gift certificate for birth control pills would have been a better gift last year. ;)
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PVnRT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:33 PM
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5. If there's no demand of sex or anything like that, why not?
Put it in a card with a note that he hopes this helps some.
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I Have A Dream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:34 PM
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6. I think that it's perfectly acceptable and would be appreciated.
However, if done for one employee, if he has others who report to him, it should be done for the others as well.

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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:38 PM
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10. No, only one. And they have good working relationship
Thanks.
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:37 PM
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8. Gift certificate. But make certain the company isn't going bankrupt. (nt)
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woodsprite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:38 PM
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9. What about a VISA gift card? That way it can be used for groceries,
gas, something useful, needed, or frivolous.
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question everything Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:40 PM
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12. Good idea. I wonder where one gets one. From a bank? (nt)
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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:02 PM
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23. You can buy them anywhere now. Grocery stores, Walgreen's, etc.
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Hamlette Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:42 PM
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13. office rules are giving are: you can always gift down but never up
gifting up looks like you are buttering up the boss to get something.

gift card is a great idea, always popular in my office.
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:43 PM
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15. My boss gave me 500 bucks, the company owner we contract to gave me 100.
Edited on Thu Dec-18-08 12:45 PM by Marrah_G
and then an additional 100 to settle a bet because mccain lost (woooohooo).

Then various agents who contract to us gave me the room I stayed in at the casino, wine, champange, a bracelet, casino chips and even a victoria secret gift card!

My asst got the same minus the bet winnings.

Party was Tuesday/Wednesday....I think I am still drunk !

This weekend I am going shopping with it to make my boys a nice Yule this year! They have had to many with hardly anything under the tree.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:45 PM
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16. When I was working, my bosses would give me gift certificates or small gifts
I'd guessing $20 to $30 was the average range so he's go the right amount. I don't think it looks bad. I just don't think it looks like a gift. But I don't think anyone would think anything of him for giving her $20 in a card.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 12:49 PM
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18. Sounds fine with me. GC's limit where/what, that is small enough amt cash to be ok.
$20 in a nice card would be fine. He could put something like "I thought of giving you a gc, but didn't want to limit your use of this gift." or some such, if he wanted to include an explanation. If they have a decent relationship, should be ok.
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LeftHander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:00 PM
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20. Sex toys and lingerie would be a problem....avoid those. nt
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:00 PM
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21. It's only appropriate if she reciprocates with sexual favors.
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Sabriel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:02 PM
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22. How about a Chamber of Commerce gift cert?
They're available in various denominations and are usually accepted widely in the place you live. Check your local CoC's site.
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JerseygirlCT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-18-08 01:52 PM
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25. Totally appropriate and a nice gesture nt
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