Alternative to a bigot delivering a prayer at a state function.

[ColbertWatcher]

Poll question: Alternative to a bigot delivering a prayer at a state function.

Please note: this poll is to figure out an alternative to saying prayers at state functions and not to pick a religious person who isn't bigoted to replace Rick Warren, who as everyone knows hates science and law as much as he hates women and gay people

Instead of having a hateful Dominionist deliver a prayer at a state function (yeah I know, saying both hateful and Dominionist is redundant), why can't Obama have an historian or teacher deliver a speech about the Constitution?

I believe the Constitution is not an antiquated document (like the Federalist Society followers believe) but alive and the real ideal for Americans.

I believe we need to consider it more in our every day lives and bring it back to the forefront of American politics instead of mindlessly re-enacting old traditions.

From the selections below, choose a better and secular alternative to Rick Warren:

A. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erwin_Chemerinsky">Erwin Chemerinsky

B. Howard Zinn

C. Dan Farber, author of http://search.barnesandnoble.com/Retained-by-the-People/Daniel-Farber/e/9780465022984/?itm=10">"Retained by the People: The 'Silent' Ninth Amendment and the Constitutional Rights Americans Don't Know They Have"

D. Sandra Day O'Conner

E. Another teacher or historian (If I can think of one, I will post his/her name in reply)

F. no one should speak, have a moment of silence instead

G. Continue the tradition of saying prayers at state functions and continue the tradition started by the Dubya Administration of ignoring the Constitution

[Muttocracy]

1. don't have a person in mind, but we should be invoking the Constitution, not fairy tales. nt

[ColbertWatcher]

7. I fixed the choices for you/ n/t

[IndianaJones]

2. LOTS of people here will take issue with him being labeled a bigot. nt.

[ColbertWatcher]

3. I'm calling Warren a bigot, not Obama. n/t

[IndianaJones]

4. yeah...thats who I mean. nt.

[ColbertWatcher]

5. But Warren is a bigot. Who would be offended by that? n/t

[liberalmuse]

6. How about a moment of silence?

When I was a teenager, and a Mormon, I prayed inside myself, so no one would ever know, everywhere I went. What is wrong with that? On that note, I am going to have to nominate the dreaded 'Moment of Silence' for this one. The silence being filled with Muslim, Christian, Wiccan, and even Atheist 'prayers'.

[leftstreet]

OMG That's a brilliant idea

These are new times and that's exactly what they should be doing!

:thumbsup:

[ColbertWatcher]

8. I'll add that. n/t

[Muttocracy]

9. I like it because it allows people to do whatever they like with the moment

reflect, pray, meditate, whatever.

[kenny blankenship]

10. WTF? No Garrison Keillor option?

[ColbertWatcher]

11. You can pick "E" n/t

[kenny blankenship]

20. Do not trifle with the Garrison Keillor fan club

We are fierce!

[ColbertWatcher]

21. I beg your pardon. n/t

[defendandprotect]

28. Guy is pitiful ...

[defendandprotect]

29. If not Howard Zinn, then Jon Stewart ---

I'd prefer a woman actually ...

but no one of Zinn's stature I can think of ... Mary Robinson?

Probably someone from UN/NGA groups .. or native American ---

Cindy Sheehan in an anti-war statement would do it for me ---!!!

[ColbertWatcher]

30. What about Phyllis Lyon? n/t

[defendandprotect]

36. Phyllis Lyon ---

Don't know how stupid this makes me ....

But I had to look her up --!!

Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon : Legendary Women
... heartfelt thanks to Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon, and women like them, that the ... No Secret Anymore: The times of Del Martin and Phyllis Lyon ...
www.geocities.com/mycauses/legend.html - Cached

Del Martin's name was familiar, however, though that's all --

PBS did some interesting programming on the early lesbian movements -- long while

ago -- and doubt we'll be seeing much more. They were hiding the sensational

"In The Life" programming for years and it may now be gone--???

As a straight, I've always thought it was its best program-- for anyone-!!!

Two sensational people Lyon & Martin -- but we won't see their calibre of

intelligence and courage at this Inauguration.

Personally ... I think entire event is basically about money ....



I noticed LABOR -- tho last remembered -- seems to have made out OK among

the other disaster appointments ... and with all the support from the

homosexual community, I'm shocked at anyone's even suggesting Warren.

If homosexuals gave individually, I think they should forego that in future

and contribute only thru an organization capable of putting leverage on

administration. The public gave a lot of money individually to Obama, but

no leverage on him. I don't know if giving thru DU works any better as identity

of website seems to lean more towards DLC right now.

[ColbertWatcher]

31. Could you give me a link for Mary Robinson? All I'm getting is former president of Ireland. n/t

[defendandprotect]

38. That's it -- and she was at UN .....

[leftstreet]

12. Definitely MOMENT OF SILENCE

Thanks for adding that!

[anndash]

13. Why not a Buddhist option?

[ColbertWatcher]

15. Do you have anyone in mind? n/t

[Democrats_win]

16. One step further: the Dalai Lama? The things he says are very wise.

[last1standing]

14. I hadn't heard of Dan Farber.

Thanks for turning me onto him. I'm going to check out what he says tonight.

And he was an interesting enough choice to get my vote. :)

[ColbertWatcher]

18. Cool! n/t

[ColbertWatcher]

35. Here's a link to Farber talking about his book ...

http://fora.tv/2007/05/01/Silent_Ninth_Amendment

[Donnachaidh]

17. Rip Taylor -- at least he's entertaining

He might even keep his toupee on for decorum.

[ColbertWatcher]

19. Yeah, but he litters. I assume this will be a "green" inaugural. n/t

[Donnachaidh]

26. appleseeds?

Come on -- we can green up Rip for the occasion. :evilgrin:

[ColbertWatcher]

27. Sounds good enough for me.

I'm sure his hair is already biodegradable.

[ColbertWatcher]

22. Kick for more feedback. n/t

[Toasterlad]

23. Other: Stephen Colbert

That's the only thing that could get me to watch this inauguration.

[ColbertWatcher]

24. LOL! I agree!

In fact, we've been working on getting an online vote started, so people can vote "Stephen" to be included at the inaugural.

His qualifications are:

1. he's American
2. he's got balls
3. he teaches Sunday school
4. it will give his children a chance to see him on stage

Dr. Colbert has stated before that he won't let his children watch his show, because he plays a character that contradicts what he really believes. He feels what he says in character would seem as though he is lying and he doesn't want his kids to see him lying.

Allowing him to deliver the invocation will benefit the world as much as it will America and the Colbert children.

[rrneck]

25. There should be

exactly as many religions as there are people. We should all just shut the hell up and listen to our hearts, and allow others to do the same.

[Jamastiene]

32. Al Gore n/t

[Swamp Rat]

33. I think Desmond Tutu would be a great choice.

:)

[Political Heretic]

34. I don't have a problem with a prayer, but by someone else would be great

I do believe the constitution is an antiquated document, but not for any of the reasons that the federalist society probably would. I'm of the "living document" persuasion.

Any document that wrote that black slaves should be counted as three fifths of a whole person is antiquated, in my opinion. :)

[Spectral Music]

37. MARIAN WRIGHT-EDELMAN: She can REALLY talk about poverty and children

That's my vote

[ColbertWatcher]

39. Wow. Interesting choice!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marian_Wright_Edelman