Yes, we elected Obama.

[verges]

But we elected him to serve ALL Americans. Not just us. And that includes the rwers, folks who read Ann Colter's books and listen to Rush. He will be their President also. And, I feel we made wise choice. He has the potential to be one of the truly great Presidents. That said, while I detest Warren's beliefs, I understand Obama's choice of him to begin to heal a rift in America. I also feel that the voices of dissent are good-keep it up. This won't be the first reach out to the Religious Conservatives. And every time it happens I expect and hope there to be equally loud voices of dissent. But by reaching out from the left, perhaps it will encoutage them to reach out from the right and we can connect on SOMETHING and move America forward.

[rcrush]

1. Here comes the flamewar.

[Taverner]

2. Yep - expect shrill histrionics from both sides

Personally, I'd like to give both sides a kick in the ass and some nuance to go...but DU is for all Democrats, not just the ones who have brains

[lamp_shade]

3. Amen to that.

[give-me-liberty]

4. should obama also put a KKK Clansmen to help heal the rift with Southern Bigots?

if the answer is NO, then he has no right putting warren on stage.


moving america forward on the violence of bullying in the schools that happens to gay kids because their mothers, fathers, preachers, teachers and entier society are against their natural gender identity orientation is something you and everyone will see, that bullying escalates while Obama continues to revere and honor the very bigots who perpetuate such violence.

sorry, I have to disagree with your idea of what healing America amounts to.

[HEyHEY]

7. Wow, six posts and I already wanna add you to my buddy list.

[give-me-liberty]

9. G (Oh) Canada

great fan of the hockey teams canada puts out..

cuddly bear pic.. ; 0 mmmwwwaaa...

[madeline_con]

14. Well said, and welcome!

:hi:

[HEyHEY]

5. Yeah, maybe they'll all agree to eradicate gay people and that'll solve that

Dude... you can't "reach out" to hate-mongers. How did the Civil rights in the south come about? Civil unrest. Ending apartheid in South Africa? Same thing. (Yes I'm fully aware it's not all THAT simple) But simply reaching out to people who are, by nature, fucking cocks doesn't do a thing.

[DrDan]

6. there ya go - talking like some kind of radical

[HEyHEY]

8. Dr. Dan.... imagine if Wallace spoke at Johnson's inauguration.

[DrDan]

11. I can only speak for myself, but

I would listen to what he had to say. I listen to rush. I listen to hannity. I listen to boorz. I listen to Fox. I actually enjoy listening to weiner.

I had an opportunity to meet Rommel's grandson several years ago while working in Ethiopia. Had an interesting conversation with him re the "perfect race".

I will listen to warren.

[leftofthedial]

10. God and Jeeeesus bless the Magnificent Obama

and his sense of service to the creationist, homophobic, anti-choice downtrodden poor bigots of this nation. For verily it is written that he is their President too. Praise be unto the Lord God Jesus Almighty that these poor bigots did not succeed in defeating the political aspirations of such a courageous, wonderful, blessed and holy man before he had time to include them in his message of love and unity. Please Dear Magnificent Obama, keep serving them, reaching out to them, comforting them, giving them power and validation and the sweet caramel juicy Obama love that they have earned through their ignorance. After all, they have shown that that their souls are in lonely torment, that they are yearning to reach out to the godless liberal faggot progressives of our nation. They were just waiting for that delicious Obama wisdom to give them the chance. Praise be unto the Almighty. Amen.

here are three for you, my dear DU readers . . . :sarcasm: :sarcasm: :sarcasm:

Was this a reach out? Or a reach around?

[Poll_Blind]

12. It really IS just that simple.

It's apparently going to take some getting used-to.

PB

[madeline_con]

13. Hold up! Monkey Boy was never MY president.

If RWers don't want Obama to represent them, fair enough. they do, however have to obey the law. May they be as miserable as we have been for the last 8 years during the coming 8. :toast:

edited to add: This may be a bit off the intended line of reasoning, but I never felt that nasty shit-flinging chimp represented me or the US. Rwer fundamentalist meddlesome pricks be damned!

Anyone who does not care for Obama or his policies may be as vocal as they wish, I know I've been damn vocal about the crap oozing out of the White House and back to Texas come January.

[NJmaverick]

15. You are correct. There are many that want Obama to behave just like Bush

No one in good conscious could attack Bush for 8 years for only being President to part of the Country and then turn around and demand Obama do the same.

[Bjorn Against]

19. Yeah, Bush would invite someone like Warren to speak at his inauguration

[NJmaverick]

22. That is correct, Bush only associated with those that he agreed with

and that lead to the worse presidency in 8 years. Thank you for proving my point.

[Bjorn Against]

23. This isn't about not associating with people, it is about not honoring them.

Are you honestly suggesting that Obama would be like Bush if he had chosen someone more moderate to give the invocation?

[baby_mouse]

30. That's because the people he associated with were the worst people.

Politics isn't neatly symmetrical.

[Tarheel_Dem]

16. Good luck with that. You're trying to connect with some people here

who are just as hate filled and intolerant as the other side. I agree with your sentiment, as do a lot of DU'ers, but you'll be shouted down by the hate that we claim to despise. It's just ironic that the ones screaming the loudest about intolerance, seem to display such an ample supply of it themselves.

I don't think there's anything that can be considered a pro-Obama thread where this topic isn't injected. I cleaned out my Ignore list after the election was over, and now I have more people on Ignore than ever, and that's sad.

[azmouse]

18. I did the same thing with my ignore list - emptied it out but now...

it's filling up again with the same people. They are on ignore for good now.
Life is too short for the hate they spew. I wish it didn't have to be this way.

[Tarheel_Dem]

24. It's amazing isn't it? The exact same people as before. That's the

part I found interesting. I've resisted doing the Ignore thing because I think discussion is healthy, but the Warren thing hasn't really been discussed. Just a lot of insult slinging and name calling. But I agree with you, they will never be let out again.

[baby_mouse]

28. Better add me to that list.

I've no tolerance for bigots and no problem with hate.

[paulk]

17. I didn't elect him to serve all Americans

The neo-conservative right/fundies got us into this mess, and I don't see how anyone is served by holding out an olive branch to them.

By any objective measure, George Bush was a devastatingly effective President. He got just about everything he wanted. And he did it by marginalizing the opposition, not pandering to them.

We don't have the luxury of even symbolic gestures to these assholes. The problems we have as a nation are not going to be solved by holding hands and singing "Kumbaya".

We need real "change we can believe in", not empty posturing.

[verges]

20. It's part of the job.

Don't be fooled by the fact that Bush ignored that part. He is going to be President of the United States of America. Not the President of the Progressive Left People who Live in the United Staes of America. His job is to serve the entire country to the best of his ability*.

*Oddly enough, Bush may have actually succeeded at this. I have a very low opinion of his abilities.

[kevinbgoode]

29. Don't you mean President of the heterosupremacists of America?

Because he sure as hell isn't doing a damn thing for my community except telling us we are "represented" by a marching band.

It is rather obvious that his "outreach" to one of his own constituencies is fundamentally flawed. He not only doesn't understand our struggle, but actively insults our community. Hint: A publicly-stated marriage segregationist, a supporter of separate-but-equal, and a heterosupremacist president is not going to pull this country together. Someone is going to be deliberately left out, and we know who that is now.

[Taverner]

21. Why do you think the Bush admin couldn't even chew gum at the same time?

I mean, incompetence can only go so far

It was because 50% of the country did not agree with the tone, and fought back

Now if we get the other half to fight back against our guy, what do you think will happen?

[paulk]

26. that other half are going to fight back anyway

the only thing that reaching out to them accomplishes is to legitimize them.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. I'd like him to "reach out" to the left as well as the right.

Something yet to happen.

[Zuiderelle]

27. There's really no excuse for reaching over the backs of gay Americans to shake the hands of bigots.