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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 10:02 AM Original message |
Anyone up for a little Marriage 101? |
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PeaceNikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
1. Nice. K&R |
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polichick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 10:11 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm with you! k&r |
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TechBear_Seattle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
3. K & R, with a few suggested changes |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Excellent point! It is $93.50 here. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. OMG -- it was either $25 or $27 for us -- I acn't remmeber |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 11:20 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. $25 for me in Massachusetts 15 years ago. |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 10:14 AM Response to Original message |
4. Excellent stuff. |
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AwakeAtLast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
6. Now that is a post I can get behind! |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
7. k&r -- the OP is clergy, btw |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 11:13 AM Response to Original message |
9. Curious- how does a marraige differ from a civil union or domestic partnership |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #9 |
11. They DON'T get teh same set of rights -- that has been posted thousands of times on here |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 11:24 AM Response to Reply #9 |
12. This is, to me, a muddy semantic area but has implications for social normatives. |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. May I plagarize your post in the future? |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 11:30 AM Response to Reply #14 |
15. Whichever ones you want. Feel free. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:43 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. I think the actual answer |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #23 |
29. The UK still has civil marriages. They're just not available to gay couples. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:13 PM Response to Reply #29 |
37. We don't actually it that - that's more what is written |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. I see. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:45 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. I forgot to mention |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-23-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #44 |
62. Your friends must have been really broke. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-24-08 08:38 AM Response to Reply #62 |
67. I'd meant to reply but forgot.......doh |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-24-08 05:05 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. I work in New Jersey |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 11:25 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Thousands of legal precedences |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:52 PM Response to Reply #13 |
28. The law simply doesn't work this way. |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:24 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. Civil unions are illegal for gay people in most states. Even where allowed, they don't provide the |
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tbyg52 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 11:35 AM Response to Original message |
16. "Marriage for everyone" - works for me. nt |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:08 PM Response to Original message |
17. In many sane countries |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:10 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. I know in France and Italy you have to be married first |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Well, as a member of the clergy I actually quite enjoy being the person who... |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. You can declare them "spaghetti" for all I care |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Why are you attacking the poster -- she is a HUGE GLBT ally |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:47 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. But you're missing the point |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Just as Pacifist Patriot is a friend of mine |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. And isn't nice you had the option to choose whom you wished to do it? |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:33 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Not really |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Fair enough. We'll have to agree to disagree. Provided any clergy... |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:04 PM Response to Reply #21 |
32. No need to be so combative. If you didn't want me to be the one to... |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
26. This is why I'm all for not allowing ministers to be officients |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:06 PM Response to Reply #26 |
34. I'm all for freedom of choice and allowing the couple to decide whether they want... |
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HillWilliam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-23-08 08:48 AM Response to Reply #34 |
64. As another member of the clergy |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. Great post! |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:59 PM Response to Original message |
30. If religion were the key ingredient to marriage with "God in the mix" and all |
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Ioo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:04 PM Response to Original message |
31. Missed Point: Evidence that marriage is a civil issue - Just look at Divorce. |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
33. great post |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
36. It was for the perceived benefit of society |
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Mugweed (939 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
38. My wife and I tried to put off marriage. |
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DarkTirade (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
42. Thank you. |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:42 PM Response to Original message |
43. I agree the term "gay marriage" is ridiculous. I pledge to stop using it. |
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beac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 06:13 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. I use "marriage equality" b/c I think it frames the real issue nicely and isn't too wordy. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 08:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. I agree with you. I am going to alter my language. Thanks! |
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beac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-23-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
66. And thank you for the book recommendation. |
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NoSheep (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-23-08 12:06 PM Response to Reply #52 |
65. good term: "marriage equality" |
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Jankyn (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
45. Kick... |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 02:32 PM Response to Original message |
46. kick |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 04:39 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. kick |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
48. Kick with comments of 5,6,7... |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 05:23 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Good points |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 07:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
55. It depends on what is meant by "ceremony", since there need not be one. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #55 |
56. Another good point. Personally I use the word ceremony in the broadest sense. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 05:45 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. Oh, you're last question is one that fascinates me because I have 10 days to... |
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TWiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
50. Married couples enjoy benifits that the rest of us do not. |
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HarukaTheTrophyWife (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
53. Excellent post |
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beac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 06:17 PM Response to Original message |
54. A hearty K&R! |
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iconicgnom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
58. well said. cuts right thru' the bullshit. |
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Patsy Stone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
59. Equal means equal |
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Harry Monroe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
60. My wife and I were married by a justice of the peace |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 10:22 PM Response to Original message |
61. great posting & thoughts behind it |
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hay rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Dec-23-08 12:36 AM Response to Original message |
63. Informative and constructive post. |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Dec-24-08 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
68. Who can officiate |
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