Mike Malloy: I won't vote for Hillary because she's a Republican

[steve2470]

He said just now he'd rather open up a vein in his neck before he'd vote for Hillary. I guess he feels strongly about her.

[The Straight Story]

1. I never see bush and hillary together, I think he wears a wig and a dress

and goes out on the campaign trail :rofl:

Seriously though, she is bad, but not as bad as a republican.

[mike_c]

3. not as bad as a republican.....

Now there's a ringing endorsement! :rofl:

My feelings exactly.

[Phredicles]

7. The people who call her Bush In Drag are way off base:

She's Joe Lieberman in drag.:P


But seriously, if come November '08 it's between her and Sam Brownshirt or Benito Giuliani or The Newt or McCave or Shitt Romney, I'm gonna have to hold my nose hard and vote for her. God damn it.

[The Straight Story]

27. I'm with you

I'd vote for her, and one positive thing about that is that we would have a lot of dems in congress and in the public putting pressure on her. I don't want her to get the nomination, but as far from perfect she is...well she is still better than the dolts on the other side. I'd drink a 1/4 bottle rum over having no rum.

Guess I am a dem-o-holic :)

[liberaldemocrat7]

52. I will only vote for Hillary in the primary if she gets a real prescription drug benefit enacted.

http://medicare.dmocrats.org

[kdpeters]

51. If it's between her and Ron Paul..

I'm holding my nose and voting for him. God damn it!

[sellitman]

63. I like his personallity....not his politics.

He is a very down to earth guy who still is a right wing zealot. He just finally woke up and and is speaking out against this illegal war.

[tavalon]

71. Yeah

there's a person here who has a sig line that says I'm voting for the 2008 Democratic candidate. I agree with that but there are some I will vote for and work for like all get out and there are some I will vote for with nose firmly plugged.

[GregD]

9. on voting machine issues

she is every bit as bad as repukes, maybe even worse since some would expect to trust her. trust that would be ever so misplaced...

[LaPera]

26. She doesn't speak when Bush is drinking a glass of water...

[Pushed To The Left]

2. I sure hope he was talking about the primary and not the general election!

Clinton isn't my first choice, but I'll certainly vote for her in the general should she win the primary! I would rather "open a vein" in my neck then to help Guliani, McCain, or Romney become the next president!

[libodem]

11. some joke on TV last night

inferred that the best choice for the repub candidate was Hillary....ya had to be there

[pampango]

42. Precisely. I only hope that we as Democrats don't end up chewing up and

spitting out our woman and our black candidates, so that we have white males running against each other. (I know I would have a field day if Colin Powell and Elizabeth Dole were running as Republicans, were #1 and #2 in the polls for a significant period of time, then were dispatched after much intra-party harping.)

I know, I know, "We are better than they are. If we don't select a woman or a black candidate, it is because they are not qualified or because of their stance on issues." And as a white guy, I have no trouble voting for a white guy candidate, all of whom among the Democrats I like at this point in time.

I do worry some about the affect on certain segments of our base, if we knock off #1 and #2 (certainly a frequent enough occurrence during primary seasons in either party) and they just happen to be the only woman and only black candidates that we have this time around. If you believe that Democratic voters are too smart to forsake the party if one our white males triumphs and will support whoever our candidate is, then I will breathe a sigh of relief and sleep well tonight.

[NoPasaran]

4. Fuck him

He's an idiot.

[no_to_war_economy]

43. he is sooooo right AGAIN

[ruggerson]

5. Fuck Mike Malloy

and if you happen to read this, Mike, I wouldn't vote for YOU, if you ever ran for anything, because I think you're a total asshole.

[WillyT]

6. Either The Fix Is In, Or She's An Entire Cycle Behind The Times...

Either way... she ain't my cuppa Joe.

:shrug:

[IChing]

13. "she ain't my cuppa Joe."

Although she has helped Joe.




LOL

[roamer65]

8. Malloy is entitled to his opinion.

I enjoy his show.

If Hillary goes to the general I will plug my nose and pull the lever for her. :puke:

Only reason I'll do it is because I know the freepers hate her so much.

[WillyT]

12. That's What's Weird... If She Goes To The General, Something Will Be Very Wrong...

Either with the country (in which case I might vote for her), or with the party (in which case I'm not sure I can vote for her). Thank goodness we have many many months before we have to open any veins!

:shrug:

[obaman08]

14. The freepers hope so..

They think their man(any man) is a slam dunk against Hillary. She is too polarizing, although if Pres. Clinton gets into it he could make the race very close.

[baldguy]

10. Get real. Hillary IS a Republican.

[roamer65]

15. Yup and her husband was the best Republican president we ever had.

I will give that to Bill. He was not my favorite either, but I would have voted for him in 2000 if he could have run again.

[FogerRox]

21. Right on, exactly

[WillyT]

16. I Hate Ta Go Sixties Here, But Hillary Is... Establishment

And as we watch the forces of the established rule surround the infection that is the Bush 43 Administration, it will be folks of both parties, right and left, but we will end up with a cure for that cancer, pushed by our good doctors of the formerly status quo...

And for the Dems at least... that pill you mother is recommending... is Clintonium 44.

And I'll STILL have to hide my stash.

I thought they said that irony is dead.

:shrug:

[FogerRox]

22. Establishment, yup

[The River]

17. He's Correct

As Andrew Sullivan recently said (on Hardball or Countdown I think):
"There is only one person who can save the Republican Party, Hillary Clinton."

As my favorit blogger (Joe Bageant) says in his essay "Dispatches from the Chinese Landfill"

"Another political wish upon a star is that Hillary Clinton, a woman marked by so many (corporate) hickeys that she looks like a victim of massive hemangioma -- but with botox -- will reform our brutal health care system without pulling up her skirt for the insurance industry. Like she says, there is "no possible governmental solution that does not include the insurance industry."

Of course not. Industry is our government. Our votes merely decide which industries have front spots at the public trough for the next four to eight years."
http://www.joebageant.com/joe/2007/01/dispatch_from_t.html
Corporate control of media and government is the real enemy.

[kaygore]

18. I can't disagree with him

[MADem]

19. Well, he's such a hotshot he got the bounce. Sorry, I can't get into bashing Democratic candidates

If he shat on Biden, Obama, Richardson or Edwards I'd say the same thing.

With "friends" like that, who needs enemies? He'd be better off pissing OUTSIDE the tent at this stage of the game....fucking putz. But hey, I guess when life hands you lemons, shit on the only female in the field of candidates. And call her a Republican, too, to JUSTIFY it. Asshole!

[progressivebydesign]

64. THANK YOu... the dem basing is pissing me off...

I can barely stand being here on DU anymore. The repubs may suck, but they don't eat their own. Honestly, I think there is some major sexism going on in the party. Hillary is being held to much more intense standard than anyone, and I believe it's because she's a woman.

[MADem]

75. You're welcome. I'm sick of it myself.

I don't care which candidate is is--I'm tired of people lifting their candidates up by bashing others. I'm offended by sexism, racism, any of the -isms that people bring up for weak-ass reasons. Particularly offensive are the "Oh, """I""" don't feel this way, but """THE AMERICAN PEOPLE"""" won't vote for a woman/Black man/Mexican-American/fill-in-your-favorite-group-identifier." That kind of craven cowardice is just unacceptable in this century.

I don't have an issue with discussions about positions, so long as they are based on truth and not rightwing talking points.

Lies suck. And they say more about the liars than the liars realize...!

[LSK]

20. did he forget the lessons of 2000 already????

Would he rather have President McCain or Guliani???

:shrug:

In the General, you hold your nose and vote Dem or else you get people like Chimpy.

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[WorldResident]

24. And Tom DeLay is a Democrat ...

He must be teh smrat!

[Selatius]

25. Mike Malloy is probably going to vote for Al Gore if (or when?) he runs.

I'm betting on Gore as well.

[David__77]

28. No way she gets my primary vote.

And it's not a certainty she would get my vote in the general election either. She would be positively terrible in terms of foreign policy, and take the wind out of the sails of the anti-war movement to boot.

[earth mom]

29. That's what I love about Malloy-he speaks the TRUTH.

:applause:

[reprehensor]

30. Malloy's fiery rhetoric may bother some...

...maybe some need to be bothered.

[herbbrown]

31. If it's Hillary it's Ralph for me

Cause that's the only way he runs. Thanks for saving this party Ralph, although many don't realize it. There is no way in hell I'm having Bush/Clinton/Bush/Clinton. Dream on Hillary, she grew up a republican, and not much has changed with her, only her party has. Is she still on the board of that very Democratic company....what is it again? Oh yea Walmart, yea she's a Democrat all right.

[sellitman]

35. Real smart

Help insure another 8 years of RepubliCON rule.

You people never learn.

:banghead:

[herbbrown]

47. It's really all about a lable to some

Her actions speak so loud, I can barely tell which party she's in.

[sellitman]

61. It's all about Labels?

Did you say the same thing about Kerry? Would these past few years been just as bad under him too. King Ralph thinks so. It's not about labels...it's about platforms. As much as I dislike Hillary she is worlds above another 4 years of RepubliCOn rule. A Nader vote is a vote for them, not us. Wake up for crying out loud.

[progressivebydesign]

65. Hope you enjoy a REAL republican president. n/t

[B Calm]

32. She was the president of the Young Republicans in college. I agree

with Malloy. I won't vote if she's the best the democratic party can offer.

[OhioChick]

33. president of the

young republicans in college? It shows.

[pampango]

41. Harry Reid was in the KKK when he was young.

Let us not hold youthful mistakes against our candidates. Now mistakes that they make as adults and as politicians, those we can and should hold against them. ;)

[NYCGirl]

46. Robert Byrd, not Harry Reid. NT

[B Calm]

60. I don't think it was a youthful mistake. Just like now with her wanting

to continue this endless war in Iraq. She would be a mistake for the entire democratic party if she ends up as the democratic nominee.

[LeftishBrit]

48. Tam Dalyell, one of our best (now former) Labour MPs...

was chair of the Cambridge University Conservative Association when he was a student.

And Reagan was a Democrat when he was young.

People do change views.

Not saying that Hillary Clinton is necessarily the best; but I don't think one can always judge people by their political affiliation as students.

[rinsd]

49. By that logic Robert Byrd is still a Klansman. (nt)

[skipos]

67. And Kucinich was pro-life until 2001 or 2002.

i am no HRC fan, but people change.

[B Calm]

76. Byrd doesn't act like a klansman, but Hillary still acts like a republican.

I find fault with your logic!

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

34. He Sounds Like An Idiot. n/t

[cali]

36. fuck him. he's an idiot.

open that vein, Mikey.

[PVnRT]

37. I'm no fan of Hillary

but I can stand Malloy even less. This creates a dilemma...

[OmmmSweetOmmm]

38. This past November I voted straight Dem and omitted one. I didn't cast my vote for Senate.

If she is the nominee I'm going to be very hard pressed to vote for her.

[bonito]

39. DlC Democrats are very much like republicans

In many ways, lets hope she doesn't get the nomination.

[Cobalt Violet]

40. I just hope she's not the nominee.

I'm going to have a hard time ever voting for her if she is. I don't know what I'll do. I just hope it's not her.

[PhilipShore]

44. Excellent

Vote Democratic -- for the team that will "win" by an overwhelming majority, Gore/Clark 2008.

[Individualist]

45. I'm with Malloy

[rinsd]

50. Glad his ass got fired. Fuck you Malloy (nt)

[Generator]

53. Well to be fair

she's more of a Republican type of a couple decades ago. She's not one of these neo-fascists. The Democratic party has moved to the right for decades. That's why the only person that I'm sure I can support at this time is Edwards.

[Madspirit]

54. The Worst Democrat

Is better than the best Republican. ...I really thought after the mid-terms, 2008 would be a cinch. It's not going to be. We're going to lose. We are going to have to live under another Republican because evidently we like tossing mud at each other much more than we like supporting each other.

Oh boy to us poor, who aren't just armchair politicos. We actually have to live with no health care, no insurance, no gay rights, no....because Democrats rather fight among themselves than do anything else. It's the most favorite pastime of all. Whoohoohoo...let's sling mud.
Lee

[Morereason]

72. A Rt wing Dem will just move fascism into the shadows again, but it will remain

Corporate dems are almost as dangerous as Repubs. Because they just put the people to sleep, making them feel like everything is ok, while corporate powers increase their power behind the curtain. Don't folks get it yet????

[xultar]

55. Malloy....that was stupid. But I'm sure there are idiots everywhere who think the same thing.

[Czolgosz]

56. She no worse than Richardson or Biden. More progressive than a dozen Democratic Senate

colleagues and governors, and she's a hell of a lot better than any of the Repub candidates.

She's my seventh choice for the nomination (if Gore and Clark run), but she's 1000 times better than Rudy McRomney and the seven right-wing dwarfs running on the other ticket.

Who does Malloy support?

[Balbus]

57. Was that overheard in the unemployment line?

Or did he actually find someone desperate enough to hire him?

[butterfly77]

58. Thanks Mike!

from a truthseeker.

[Az_lefty]

59. I love those penguins...

and I'll never vote for Hillary, she's a DINO.

[progressivebydesign]

62. That's touching... hope he enjoys President Rudy then.

It's one thing to support someone else in the primary, but if you go the route of.. say.. Ralph Nader voting, then you're a moran who deserves Ain't Rudy for president.

[B Calm]

77. I disagree. The democratic party can be strong if we don't allow

the DLC to make our choices!

[Jcrowley]

66. He's quite accurate

it's just that politics in America has swung so wildly to the right that a corporatist hawk such as Hillary can be misperceived as "liberal" or "progressive" or whatever brand name clear thinking people are going with at the moment.

[Manifestor_of_Light]

68. She is too conservative. A DINO indeed.

I personally like her and know she's smart, but she's too busy triangulating.
Bill was not a liberal, even though he was a pretty good President. She's no liberal either. She's bought off by the corporations.

I think only two people are qualified to be President in 2008: Al Gore and Wesley Clark.

[omega minimo]

69. Only an idiot would call Malloy an idiot

:hi:

When will Hillary or Al explain the globalization, media consolidation, corporatization, Reaganism agenda that continued without abatement (although more boats were floated) during the previous Clinton/Gore administration?

Malloy calls Bill Clinton the best Republican president ever. Aside from being funny-- it's also true.

[blues90]

70. I certainly don't what Hillary for president .

[LaPera]

73. I'm with Mike! He is correct!

[upi402]

74. she is Republican with a (D)

but she's my favorite one