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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 09:39 PM
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US Military Unwittingly Evolved SUPERPATHOGEN In Iraqi Hospitals
Edited on Sun Jan-21-07 09:49 PM by kpete
WIRED SET TO REVEAL US UNWITTING EVOLVED SUPERPATHOGEN IN IRAQ HOSPITALS...

Wired to report US unwittingly evolved superpathogen in Iraqi combat hopsitals

John Byrne
Published: Sunday January 21, 2007

A drug-resistant bacteria that is infecting wounded US soldiers in Iraq -- and has spread to civilian hospitals in parts of Europe -- accidentally evolved in US military hospitals in Iraq, Wired Magazine will report in a massive expose on Monday, RAW STORY has learned.

The several thousand word expose is set to bring uncomfortable new light to the bacteria Acinetobacter baumannii that Pentagon officials previously said was likely a product of Iraqi soil.

"By creating the most heroic and efficient means of saving lives in the history of warfare, the Pentagon had accidentally invented a machine for accelerating bacterial evolution and was airlifting the pathogens halfway around the world," the magazine reveals.

The story will go live online early Monday, newsroom sources say, and appear in February's print edition.

http://www.rawstory.com/news/2007/Wired_to_report_US_unwittingly_evolved_0121.html
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 09:41 PM
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1. How did we "accidentally" do this? With antibacterial soap?
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 09:42 PM
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2. It accidentally WHAT?
"accidentally evolved"

No, no, that can't be right. We all know that evolution is a "myth" and a "hoax". It had to be intelligently designed.
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 09:49 PM
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3. I believe I've heard about this before...
but at the it hadn't spread to other civilian hospitals. Damn, this shit is evolving quickly.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 09:54 PM
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4. They better get a handle on it quickly.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:01 PM
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8. Too late. "(H)ospitals in Europe" = BAD NEWS.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:10 PM
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12. Yes, it's too bad in that regard. I was mainly thinking in terms
of an antibiotic that can work.
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ConsAreLiars Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 09:56 PM
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5. The imperialist mind-set of "massive overkill" is used in hospitals as well
Edited on Sun Jan-21-07 10:08 PM by ConsAreLiars
as in the attempts at military conquests. In both cases it creates a stronger and more deadly counterforce. More examples of the "kill them all" attitude, and blowback, at work.

(edit transposition)
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 09:56 PM
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6. Here is a report on another site:
http://www.acinetobacter.org/

The Battle over multiple drug resistant microbes: MRSA, Acinetobacter, C. Difficile, etc. "Irresponsible medicine"
Early this year an outbreak of MDR Acinetobacter Baumannii swept over Arizona, 236 cases in just two months. It was reported by the state disease monitoring systems, but ignored on the national level.

Now dubbed "Supergerms", they spread without warning and seemingly without official notices since they are infections instead of diseases. The government is taking advantage of this technicality.

An ICU nurse at Bethesda Naval in Washington DC leaves work feeling under the weather. Within 24 hours she is in a community hospital, intubated, with Acinetobacter Baumannii. It was determined that the bacteria were acquired from a patient at work. She succumbed to the infection quickly and with no fan fare. The story went silent.

At Brook Army Medical Center in Texas a soldier fights for his life, as his combat wounds are made worse by infections the doctors can't seem to handle. The only reason his story is known is that his civilian girl friend speaks up for him.

This outbreak that is spreading nation wide is largely due to the war in Iraq, and because of a legal technicality in reporting, the military and CDC will not discuss it publicly.

More people come forward, bit by bit, telling stories of how the hospital played down their infection. The one person who could have done something about it, "Rep. Dennis Moore" has walked away from the issue deciding it wasn't worth getting into even after what he had seen on a visit to Walter Reed.

SNIP Also more on the CDC not making this info available to the public.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:07 PM
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11. And here's another link:
http://the.honoluluadvertiser.com/article/2004/Jul/14/ln/ln01a.html

After a helicopter crash in Iraq, Chief Warrant Officer 3 Claude Boushey Sr. underwent surgery in Germany for a broken back and to insert a titanium rod into his left leg.

Moved later to Tripler Army Medical Center, the Schofield Barracks pilot found out something else: He had tested positive for antibiotic-resistant bacteria known as Acinetobacter baumanii.

"I was kind of alarmed. I was like, what is it?" said Boushey, a 1983 Campbell High School graduate. "It took me a week just to pronounce it."

The so-called superbug, a peculiarity of the Iraq war, can cause infections, fever and pneumonia.

A spate of about 50 cases involving soldiers evacuated from Iraq was noticed in 2003 aboard the Navy hospital ship Comfort. Two Iraqi patients died of the infection.

SNIP

Fraser said the information she received was that 15 percent of the soldiers being screened at Walter Reed Army Medical Center in Washington tested positive for the bacteria.

SNIP
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:30 PM
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17. And the Wikipedia article
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acinetobacter_baumannii

It is mostly about bacteria of the genus Acinetobacter and not A. baumannii specifically.
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:00 PM
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7. There's a lesson in there somewhere
"By creating the most heroic and efficient means of saving lives in the history of warfare, the Pentagon had accidentally invented a machine for accelerating bacterial evolution and was airlifting the pathogens halfway around the world,"

If the story is indeed accurate, there is a sentence that should be looked at on many levels.
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:04 PM
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9. 100,000 Americans dying from hospital-acquired infections is about to
skyrocket. Maybe then the totals will make the news.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:06 PM
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10. Holy crap! That many?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:21 PM
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15. YES. ANNUALLY. From Forbes magazine:
Edited on Sun Jan-21-07 10:22 PM by WinkyDink
In a June 19, 2006 issue of Forbes Magazine in an article called “Killer Germs,” Forbes and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention state that “100,000 Americans die of hospital-bred infections.” In fact infections contracted in hospitals are the fourth largest killer in the United States,

http://myworkplacesafety.com/safetytips/?p=11
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:36 PM
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19. Damn, someone better get busy on some funded research!
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:11 PM
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13. Silver ions
I just can't believe more people are not aware of this, frustrating indeed.
Something I know from experience with it.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 06:40 PM
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31. Link, please? nt
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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 11:24 PM
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32. Nope
I'm not trying to convince anyone any more, if you have a lab convince your self.:hi:
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-23-07 06:18 PM
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33. I just asked for information
Edited on Tue Jan-23-07 06:19 PM by tbyg52
I tried a Google and didn't come up with much, figured you had the info and might not mind sharing it. Oh well.

Edited to add:
Not quite sure why you mentioned it, if you're not trying to convince anybody and won't provide additional info if asked, but that's just me.... ;)
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:14 PM
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14. life is very cheap to the ones who planned
and executed this war. it is to expensive to provide the best for those who gave their best for the lie. it`s so expensive to provide the tools to care for the sick,wounded,and dieing.
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TechBear_Seattle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:27 PM
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16. "Accidentally"?
Methinks the Raw Story is being a tad naive.
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 01:27 AM
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24. Raw is just quoting Wired
And Wired is a tech publication and isn't in the business of political skepticism.
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:31 PM
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18. The Pentagon... "Unwittingly?" "Accidentally?"
:eyes:

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ContraBass Black Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 11:22 PM
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21. That part I believe. Resistant strains are fostered in American hospitals and elsewhere.
The repeated emphasis of the unintention is odd, though.

The only thing I see here that's remarkable is the severity.
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spindrifter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-21-07 10:37 PM
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20. In 2004 there was a news release about this--w/ same figures:
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 01:03 AM
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22. Are all of these below "flesh eaters"?
MRSA, Acinetobacter, C. Difficile???
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populistdriven Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 01:24 AM
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23. none
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 01:32 PM
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27. Thanks Bushmeat
I assume none of these nasties even existed until B* became POTUS ;-)
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 01:49 AM
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25. some more info here also
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seemslikeadream Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 12:34 PM
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26. interesting post from professorpan
http://rigorousintuition.ca/board/viewtopic.php?t=10464&start=15

Interesting paragraph from the Wired article:

Quote:
When a team of geneticists unlocked the secret of the bug's rapid evolution in 2005, they found that one strain of multidrug-resistant Acinetobacter baumannii carries the largest collection of genetic upgrades ever discovered in a single organism. Out of its 52 genes dedicated to defeating antibiotics, radiation, and other weapons of mass bacterial destruction, nearly all have been bootlegged from other bad bugs like Salmonella, Pseudomonas, and Escherichia coli.


Hmmm. Almost as if it was engineered?

Again, pure speculation.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 02:22 PM
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28. The Wired Article
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 02:29 PM
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29. Marked~ read tonite nt
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-22-07 02:34 PM
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30. Time to move to phage therapy, perhaps?
n/t
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