I see this picture of Caroline and I still think of the little girl...

[kentuck]

that was so close to her father. When I look closely at the timelines on her face, I can see her mother, Jacqueline. Then I think of all the people that are in the Senate that I would consider incompetent and I cannot understand how some folks would say that Caroline does not have the qualifications or experience. She is over 35 years of age and is a US citizen, as far as we know, and those are the only requirements to be a US Senator.

[truedelphi]

1. I agree with you. On the other hand, she might be far safer if she

Stays home. Public service did not work out so well for her Daddy or her brother.

[kentuck]

2. They could have told Teddy that, also...

And he has been serving his country boldly for about 40 some years.

[Warpy]

9. The whole family knows that better than anyone does

but they also know they need to keep paying back the country that was so fortunate for them.

[Captain Hilts]

11. Famous folks such as she is live with death threats a LOT.

Hell, Eleanor Roosevelt got them ALL the time. The FBI tried to use it to keep her from being an activist and said "they could not protect her." Her response to Mr. Hoover was, "I've NEVER counted on the FBI to protect me." Round goes to ER.

Katharine Hepburn got them after her hugely successful fundraising letter for Planned Parenthood.

You can't let the Bad Guys win by giving in to fear.

[Dennis Donovan]

3. She is qualified, and the experience argument is bullshit...

There can be no experience garnered in prep for the completely unique job of US Senator.

I'll be proud to call her my Senator.:thumbsup:

Here's the LIFE images of the Kennedy Funeral via Google. Oddly enough, I was viewing them today.

[roguevalley]

22. If cornyn and all the rest of those cone heads are qualified, then Caroline is

in the next dimension above them. I wish I could hope for such representation for my state. :(

[Captain Hilts]

4. She's more than qualified. nt

[NYC_SKP]

6. For me, it's something like cosmic justice.

I was around when her dad and uncle were shot down, :cry: we deserved so much more than we got after 1968.

I'm just glad to have lived long enough.

:)

[Captain Hilts]

8. I remember both assassinations also and saw JK, JJK and CK in Newport when we lived there...

but, she's as qualified as anybody else.

Differently, but more than adequately.

I've always heard that she's the smartest of the 2nd generation of Kkids.

And, what the Hell, after GWB, she's very knowledgeable about PRIVACY. That's a GOOD thing.

Part of me wants her to earn it outright in '10. Appoint Bette Midler in the meantime. She's smart, funny, won't run for re-election and has given a ton of her own money to NYC.

I AM fascinated by the prez of RPIalso.

[NYC_SKP]

5. I love her now, but I remember her like this:

And, sadly, here:



But thank goodness we have her, and Uncle Ted.



:patriot:

[madfloridian]

7. It appears to be a "territorial" kind of battle...

She is absolutely qualified.

Many of the same people have been out to get others out of national party leadership.

[Captain Hilts]

10. Bullshit. nt

[golddigger]

12. I'll second that "Bullshit."

[SoCalDem]

13. So...do the republicans think that the Lovely-Lisa-Murkowski was "qualified"

after her Daddy hand-picked her to take over "the family business"?

1998- went to the Alaska house of representatives
(the whole state has less inhabitants than El Paso, Texas)

2003-04 she was "named" majority leader (DADDY WAS GOVERNOR)

2002- succeeded her DADDY in the US Senate

2004- ran for her own term

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Murkowski

Murkowski was born in Ketchikan, Alaska to Nancy R. Gore and Frank Murkowski. Her paternal grandfather was of Polish descent and her mother's side was Irish.<2> As a child, she and her family moved all over the state due to her father's job. Frank Murkowski worked in the banking industry until he was elected to the U.S. Senate in 1980. Lisa earned a B.A. in economics from Georgetown University in 1980, and a Juris Doctor from Willamette University College of Law in 1985.

She became a member of the Alaska Bar Association in 1987. She was an attorney in Anchorage, Alaska from 1985 to 1998. She also served, from 1990 to 1991, on the mayor's task force on the homeless.

In 1998, she was elected to the Alaska House of Representatives and named as House Majority Leader for the 2003–2004 session. Murkowski sat on the Alaska Commission on Post Secondary Education and chaired both the Labor and Commerce and the Military and Veterans Affairs Committees. In 1999 she introduced legislation establishing a Joint Armed Services Committee.

Murkowski is married to Verne Martell. She has two children, Nic and Matt. Her father, Frank Murkowski, was Governor of Alaska from 2002 to 2006 in addition to being her immediate predecessor in the Senate.

U.S. Senate

Murkowski, while a member of the state House, was appointed by her father, Governor Frank Murkowski, to his own unexpired senate seat in December 2002, which he had vacated after being elected governor. She was subsequently elected to a full six-year term against former Governor Tony Knowles in the 2004 election, after winning a primary challenge by a large margin. Near the end of the general campaign, senior senator Ted Stevens shot campaign ads for Murkowski and warned the public that if a Democrat replaced Murkowski they were likely to receive fewer federal dollars.

Murkowski is a member of the Republican Main Street Partnership and supports stem cell research. She is also a member of the Republican Majority For Choice, Republicans For Choice, and The Wish List (Women in the Senate and House), a group of pro-choice women Republicans.

In July 2007, Murkowski stated she would sell back land she bought from Anchorage businessman Bob Penney, a day after a Washington watchdog group filed a Senate ethics complaint against her, alleging that Penney sold the property well below market value.<3> The Anchorage Daily News noted, "The transaction amounted to an illegal gift worth between $70,000 and $170,000, depending on how the property was valued, according to the complaint by the National Legal and Policy Center."<4> According to the Associated Press, Murkowski bought the land from two developers tied to the Ted Stevens probe.<5>

In 2008, Murkowski amended her Senate financial disclosures for 2004 through 2006, adding income of $60,000 per year from the sale of a property in 2003, and more than $40,000 a year from the sale of her "Alaska Pasta Company" in 2005.

[SoCalDem]

14. So...do the republicans think that the Lovely-Lisa-Murkowski was "qualified"

after her Daddy hand-picked her to take over "the family business"?

1998- went to the Alaska house of representatives
(the whole state has less inhabitants than El Paso, Texas)

2003-04 she was "named" majority leader (DADDY WAS GOVERNOR)

2002- succeeded her DADDY in the US Senate

2004- ran for her own term

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Murkowski

Murkowski was born in Ketchikan, Alaska to Nancy R. Gore and Frank Murkowski. Her paternal grandfather was of Polish descent and her mother's side was Irish.<2> As a child, she and her family moved all over the state due to her father's job. Frank Murkowski worked in the banking industry until he was elected to the U.S. Senate in 1980. Lisa earned a B.A. in economics from Georgetown University in 1980, and a Juris Doctor from Willamette University College of Law in 1985.

She became a member of the Alaska Bar Association in 1987. She was an attorney in Anchorage, Alaska from 1985 to 1998. She also served, from 1990 to 1991, on the mayor's task force on the homeless.

In 1998, she was elected to the Alaska House of Representatives and named as House Majority Leader for the 2003–2004 session. Murkowski sat on the Alaska Commission on Post Secondary Education and chaired both the Labor and Commerce and the Military and Veterans Affairs Committees. In 1999 she introduced legislation establishing a Joint Armed Services Committee.

Murkowski is married to Verne Martell. She has two children, Nic and Matt. Her father, Frank Murkowski, was Governor of Alaska from 2002 to 2006 in addition to being her immediate predecessor in the Senate.

U.S. Senate

Murkowski, while a member of the state House, was appointed by her father, Governor Frank Murkowski, to his own unexpired senate seat in December 2002, which he had vacated after being elected governor. She was subsequently elected to a full six-year term against former Governor Tony Knowles in the 2004 election, after winning a primary challenge by a large margin. Near the end of the general campaign, senior senator Ted Stevens shot campaign ads for Murkowski and warned the public that if a Democrat replaced Murkowski they were likely to receive fewer federal dollars.

Murkowski is a member of the Republican Main Street Partnership and supports stem cell research. She is also a member of the Republican Majority For Choice, Republicans For Choice, and The Wish List (Women in the Senate and House), a group of pro-choice women Republicans.

In July 2007, Murkowski stated she would sell back land she bought from Anchorage businessman Bob Penney, a day after a Washington watchdog group filed a Senate ethics complaint against her, alleging that Penney sold the property well below market value.<3> The Anchorage Daily News noted, "The transaction amounted to an illegal gift worth between $70,000 and $170,000, depending on how the property was valued, according to the complaint by the National Legal and Policy Center."<4> According to the Associated Press, Murkowski bought the land from two developers tied to the Ted Stevens probe.<5>

In 2008, Murkowski amended her Senate financial disclosures for 2004 through 2006, adding income of $60,000 per year from the sale of a property in 2003, and more than $40,000 a year from the sale of her "Alaska Pasta Company" in 2005.

[Gregorian]

15. I agree. I was thinking along these lines last night.

Experience is relatively meaningless when faced with principal.

All of the experience in the world wouldn't help George Bush. He's still made out of crap.

I"ll take inexperienced and good principals over someone who is moving in the wrong direction.

Furthermore, in general I have found that experience in Congress translates to something I don't like. See Feinstein. She was a great mayor.

[kentuck]

16. Do you mean "principles"?

??

[Gregorian]

25. Oh yeah. Words.

Sometimes I fail.

[kentuck]

26. I apologize...

I was not pointing out your bad spelling, I was only trying to assist in the understanding of your comments...

merry christmas ! :-)

[Gregorian]

28. Thanks. There are some things spellcheck doesn't do for me.

And with all of the economic news, I've got principal on the mind. Brains work, and fail, in odd ways. Certain things just go right under my radar.

But I still will take lack of experience over lack of principle any day.


I suppose it's like music. There is the message, and there is the medium. I saw Art Blakey and his Jazz Messengers one night in San Francisco many years ago. Here was the man who raised Miles Davis. In a small, smokey, sweaty room. He was old. But he flung arms and sticks at the drums in a way I've never seen nor heard. You can't trade that experience in. However, I've heard bands that were made of musicians who picked up their instruments three days ago, and been totally impressed by their sound.

Well that probably bored you to death.

[fla nocount]

17. Far too progressive and she's not on a leash.

Her vote could not be controlled or manipulated. She's not just useless to our purposes, she dangerous. It's bad enough that she looks good, makes sense and flaps her yap whenever there's a mic in her mug, but she's "adored." Did I mention that she's charismatic as well. There's no telling what her democratic drivel might do to her colleagues' votes in a closed room where we couldn't watch them.

This woman is over-qualified for the Senate and would better suited to book tours and instilling hope. She's had her 15 minutes, stick a fork in 'er.

[earth mom]

18. Caroline will be one of the few politicians I feel good about anymore. nt

[Doremus]

19. Me too! n/t

[nevergiveup]

20. Hostility from progressives on her possibility

of being appointed is mind boggling to me. Maybe it is a generational thing or maybe it is left-over hostility from Clinton supporters but whatever I find it ridiculous especially in light of the shortage of true liberal leaders in this country. I would be more than proud to have her as my senator.

[fla nocount]

21. Hey, I was joking in my post above.

I would love to have Caroline sitting in the Senate voting her conscience.

[nevergiveup]

23. Oh, I am sorry

I didn't intend my response to be toward you. I understood your post to be sarcasm. We likely agree on this issue. Happy Holidays!

[Captain Hilts]

30. It's NOT "left over hostility from Hillary supporters." Over 80% of Dems support the idea...

and some on the far left are playing the "nepotism" card.

[madamesilverspurs]

24. Qualified?

Given what we were subjected to in the presidential campaign, let's just say that Carloline Kennedy sound asleep is more qualified than Palin wide awake.

Just sayin'.

[kentuck]

27. Can I get an Amen ?

:-)__~~~ ~~~~
~~~

[Spectral Music]

29. Palin was a governor. As much as I personally dislike her,the woman held a couple of public offices

Caroline has never been subject to "the people."

[Bucky]

31. Such a silly argument. You've just disqualified Dwight Eisenhower to be president

Anyone who's lived a public life, who's been involved in civic actions, can be considered qualified to stand for important public office. If we went by your ridiculous standard, Dan Quayle would be more qualified to run for president than Abraham Lincoln, who only had one term the House of Representatives (and then ten years later lost a Senate election) when he ran for president.


There's a hell of a lot more to public service than just getting your name on a ballot.