Kangaroo burgers a way to cut global warming/climate change?

[alfredo]

Grazing animals emit a lot of Methane because of a chemical reaction in their gut from microbe in their gut. Cut the amount of methane, cut the damage it causes. Kangaroos don't belch methane like Cows and Sheep. Going vegetarian is also an option suggest in this article.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/04/070402-egypt-volcano.html


COWS, sheep and goats may seem like innocent victims of humanity's appetite for meat, but when it comes to climate change they have a dark secret. Forget cars, planes or even power stations, some of the world's worst greenhouse gas emitters wander idly across rolling pastures chewing the cud, oblivious to the fact that their continuous belching (and to a lesser degree, farting) is warming the planet.

Take New Zealand, where 34.2 million sheep, 9.7 million cattle, 1.4 million deer and 155,000 goats emit 48 per cent of the country's greenhouse gases in the form of methane and nitrous oxide. Worldwide, livestock burps are responsible for 18 per cent of greenhouse gas emissions - more than produced from all forms of transport combined. Methane accounts for the bulk of ruminant green house gas emissions, one tonne of the gas has 25 times the global warming potential of the equivalent amount of carbon dioxide.

[NYC_SKP]

1. Soylent Green Burgers would cut global warming A LOT!!!!

:rofl:

[alfredo]

4. Heavily processed foods aren't the answer.

[NYC_SKP]

7. Then straight up barbecue!

Or big pots in the jungle!

[alfredo]

9. An African adventurer described eating human flesh. He said it was a

cross between porcupine and pork. He didn't know he was eating a young girl until later. Cannibalism, as I remember, is mostly ceremonial, you know, like funnel cakes at the Fourth of July.

[NYC_SKP]

13. Well, I like pork OK, but never had porcupine...

I'll take a pass on porcupines and people.

A funnel cake sounds yummy and utterly without nutritious value, however!

[alfredo]

18. After six beers, three corn dogs, some fried fish, a bit of funnel cake

and suspect lemonade should cap off a perfect evening.

[DJ13]

2. Many years ago Jack in the Box was inadvertently selling kangaroo

They were sourcing some of their hamburger from Australia, and the packer wasnt a very honest outfit.

[alfredo]

6. It wouldn't have mattered to me, as long as the meat is clear of disease,

and not full of chemicals. I'll eat just about any meat, or I will eat no meat. If they sold veggie burgers, I'd eat those too if they meet the same standard as the meat I eat. Oh yeah, it has to taste good.

I had Elk today. It was pretty good.

[ZombieHorde]

40. If you were in a 'plane wreck in the snowy moutians' situation, would you eat a dead Human?

[alfredo]

43. If there was no other choice.

[ZombieHorde]

3. I used to be vegan.

When people asked me why, I use to say; "The sooner we end our reliance on animals, the sooner we can kill them all."

I did not really believe this, but it fucked with their arguments.

[alfredo]

8. If we stopped eating beef and released them into the wild, they'd probably

go extinct.

[ZombieHorde]

10. Does not India keep cows for non food reasons?

[alfredo]

11. Yeah, but they do use the milk for food.

[ZombieHorde]

12. So then, they probably would not go extinct. There would just be no cows in the U.S.

Or maybe a few as pets.

[alfredo]

19. The cow will still be around for us lacto-ovo in the crowd.

[ZombieHorde]

26. Yes, ice cream is so yummy.

[alfredo]

42. I loved making my own. It's better that way.

[dysfunctional press]

21. why wouldn't there be cows in the u.s?

herds of water buffalo and yak seem to fare pretty well in their environs...and north america before whitey supported LOTS of HUGH buffalo herds.

:shrug:

[ZombieHorde]

25. before whitey

Exactly.

Cows would have very few places to go in modern times. A national park may keep them safe.

[dysfunctional press]

29. there are still herds of wild horses out there.

groups of rouge guernseys might just surprise you with their tenacity and will to survive.

[ZombieHorde]

31. I would be delighted to be surprised by a herd of wild cows.

I would like to not that it was not me who originally stated that cows would go extinct if people quite eating them.

I just suggested that Indians would keep them around.

[dysfunctional press]

33. careful- you've got a renegade 'e" on your hands...

it jumped from 'note' to 'quit'.

don't be a hero- call for help.

[ZombieHorde]

37. You are right! I am going to kick the letter e's ass!

Fucking Es, think their better than me.

[dysfunctional press]

20. like the buffalo did...?

oh, wait...

[alfredo]

45. the buffalo was killed because they interfered with rail roads. They were

also essential for the Native Americans. Kill off the Buffalo and you starve the natives into extinction or submission. Too often American settlers and travelers weren't eating them, they were killing for sport

[LeftyMom]

23. Animals bred solely for efficiency as food production units?

Quite possibly. Would that be a particular problem with unnatural species that bred into unhealthy and uncomfortable extremes for the benefit of cheaper food production? Not particularly. If anything, one could argue that ceasing to breed these animals would be righting a moral wrong.

Of course since the world isn't going vegan overnight, what'd really happen is a gradual decline in intentional breeding of farmed animals. Which is exactly the same thing that happens when one animal "food" suffers a reduction in demand when the price falls due to a health scare or a culinary trend or whatever.

[flvegan]

5. Meh. Go vegan and be done with it.

:shrug:

[ZombieHorde]

14. Tough sell.

[flvegan]

17. Why?

[ZombieHorde]

27. Because most people do not like the idea of adapting a diet that is different...

than what they were raised with. Many people, even some liberals, are threatened by vegans.

When I was a vegan, a man, who became a Buddhist monk a year latter, seemed insulted by my choice of dietary restrictions. He actually raised his voice against me when I told him.

Disclaimer: I am very, very drunk right now, so I apologize if my post is nonsensical.

[flvegan]

28. I agree with your theory.

Maybe tomorrow we could talk about why.

What're you drinking? No apologies needed, of course.

[ZombieHorde]

32. 1.5 bottles of wine. I rarely drink anymore, so that is a lot of alcohol for me.

I feel so good, but my walking is awkward.

[silverojo]

35. Because it's dangerous

Human beings are omnivores...which includes "carnivore". We need meat. Tofu just doesn't cut it.

I tried that vegetarian bullshit, and all I got were health problems...up to and including a vitamin B12 deficiency that could've resulted in permanent nerve damage, coma, or death.

Emissions from cars and factories are doing a lot more damage to our atmosphere than cow farts. :eyes:

[ZombieHorde]

39. There is some disgusting sea plant that contians B12.

I took a supplement of it when I was vegan and had no dietary problems.

[dysfunctional press]

22. that's not going to happen anytime soon in the u.s...

at least not while i'm still around.

[flvegan]

24. Guess I'll ask. Why not?

And what incredible bit do you have to add that keeps others from trying it out "at least not while (you're) around"?

[dysfunctional press]

30. seems pretty obvious- i like meat, and i'm not giving it up...

where did i say that i'd keep others from trying it?

and why would i have to? there doesn't seem to be any kind of overwhelming rush in that direction by society.

[undeterred]

15. Why don't we educate these animals to have some manners?

Surely there's a Bovine Whisperer out there who can teach them not to belch and fart.

:hide:

[spag68]

16. Cow gas

It surprises me that no one has figured out a way to capture all that methane gas? It reminds me of the steel mills which had stacks burning methane from coal to coke emissions 24/7. I guess burning it is a better ecological solution then just venting it into the air, However if you have to burn something, methane is the cleanest burning of nat gasses. Except for the pollution done at the mine and transportation of the coal, we had a method of extracting the methane without releasing any of the bad gas into the air. This was done at a demonstration plant outside of Pgh. and was competitive with nat gas at the time. These companies have satill not realized how valuable all those side gasses and heavy metals are worth,so it is up the the regulators to clean up their act once and for all. I got done in Western Pa. and now instead of having black noontimes, we have clear sky's and fish in the Allegheny river. We can do thing in suck a way that the environment is not harmed, but ignoring it to make more profit is the order of the day and has been for 150 years or so. At it's Clairton coke ovens US Steel extracts some 200 chemicals from the coal and one of them is anhydrous ammonia 30 years ago this one chemical was showing1 million a day profit, that's net not gross. All these things can be done and should have already been done. If the Government can get out from underneath all the lobbyist pressure and force them to do the right thing at the mine sites and in building the coal to gas plants near production it could work. In Western Pa. there are thousands of reclaimed strip mined land that have been completely replanted and now house house plans.Coal is not bad, it's an inanimate object we use in a stupid way, that's what is bad.Even nukes are not necessarily bad, only the way in which we treat the waste. That said I still prefer solar electric , thermal, or wind. Geothermal is the bear in the woodshed, gets little notice, but maybe the best of them all. If we can survive the next 8-10 years we will have this stuff figured out,until then it is important that we keep after the doubters and use any renewable that we can, in any small way we can. The new thin film solar is a couple years away, but it will sell at 1$ a what instead of 4$ a watt,and I have a plan for my roof this spring, so wish me good luck . I hope I can get it done. Maybe I can get some bailout money from the of the Rachael Maddow show Bank,after all they are letting GMAC become a bank,so maybe she has a chance. Better get started on my paperwork.

[ColbertWatcher]

34. How much rain forest land is used for grazing animals?

I think it's more than just the methane, it's the amount of land that's needed to keep the world supplied with burgers and the amount of refrigeration/freezers needed to keep them fresh.

Not to mention how much water they need to keep them hydrated and grow the food to keep the animals fed--before we eat them.

I'm sure there's other stuff I'm missing as well.

[depakid]

36. Kangaroo's actually a vey lean and healthy meat

But try rounding them and herding them, into pens....

[alfredo]

44. Bison is too. Down the food chain is Blue Gills, and fresh water lobster:

the Crayfish.

[Crunchy Frog]

38. I bet people burgers would make an even greater difference.

[ZombieHorde]

41. I agree. Over population + many starving people = easy solution.

Bwahahahaha!