Caroline Kennedy voted for DEMOCRAT Freddy Ferrer, not Bloomberg, in 2005

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From: "More Caroline: Spoke to Hillary, won't run if not selected"
By Ben Smith, Politico, December 26, 2008

Made a little more news on NY1 tonight, telling host Dominic Carter that she finally spoke to Hillary Clinton -- who didn't initially take her call -- and that, if she's not selected, she won't run for the seat.

"We did have a very nice, you know, conversation, and obviously I'm not gonna talk about that, except to say that she said this was the greatest job that she'd ever had and could imagine having," Kennedy said. "So, she was very encouraging, and that was, you know, that was nice because she's a huge inspiration of mine."

She was also asked if she'd run in 2010 if not selected. "Well, if he doesn't select me, I would support the person that he does select," she said.

Kennedy also implied that she'd voted for Democrat Freddy Ferrer over Mayor Mike Bloomberg, her local patron, in 2005: "I've been a Democrat all my life," she said. "I am, you know, a Democrat through and through. I've always voted Democratic. You know, that is where my heart lies." A spokesman, Stefan Friedman, confirmed she'd voted for Ferrer.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1208/More_Caroline_Spoke_to_Hillary_wont_run_if_not_selected.html

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Interesting development isn't it?

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1. I expect Andrew Cuomo to get the party nod.

CK is stepping back as her support begins to dwindle with the democratic party hierarchy.

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2. Hard to say, but Caroline is definitely not stepping back.

She's talking to the press in a big way and did two lengthy interviews just today, one with AP and the other on NY1, a very interesting with Dominic Carter, which I'm reading now. Here's a link to the NY1 interview transcript (click the blue "jump" link at the bottom of the column):

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1208/More_Caroline_Spoke_to_Hillary_wont_run_if_not_selected.html

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3. Funny, a few days ago she said she would run in 2010 no matter who was appointed.

And also refused to say she would back the Dem nominee for Mayor in 2009 (a statement that would get her tombstoned on DU). Now she's changed both position. If she's not ready to even seek appointment to the Senate, how can she be ready to serve in the Senate?

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4. Caroline said, "I've always voted Democratic.

You know, that is where my heart lies." Why do think would that get her tombstoned at DU?

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5. Because she refused to say she would support the Dem nominee for NY Mayor.

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7. Okay. That seems like a reasonable response to a trick question.

As senator, her job will be to work with and support the mayors of every city in the state, whatever their party affiliations, so I hope you'll agree that the question has no bearing on her suitability for the senate job.

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9. I want a Democrat who will support Democrats, because I believe Democrats have the best answers to

the problems of the nation, the states and cities. Of course a Senator has to work with everyone. But a Democratic Senator should spport Democrats in elections (unless, of course, the Dem candidate is incredibly objectionable, i.e., corrupt, etc.)

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10. The question here is who she voted for in 2005,

not who'll she will support as Senator. NYC is an anomaly, the electorate being mainly Democratic, as is Caroline, but somehow managing to elect Republican mayors, whom the Governor, Senators, and other state office holder are obliged to keep cordial working relationships with. So it seems to me that taking sides in a future NYC mayoral election would not help her be a good a Senator.

In other words, I think it's a false issue.

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15. Bloomberg's aides are helping her in her 'campaign,' which is why she initially dodged the question

re: whether she would support the Dem nominee in the 2009 Mayoral elections. Bloomberg self-identified as a Republican (when it was popular to do so) and then became an independent, but did a lot of fundraising for Bush and donated money to the NY State Republicans in their campaign to retain control of the NY State Senate. He also raised the idea of running for Gov as a Republican, in return for giving the state Republican party large donation.

People manage to support opponents of officeholders without having their working relationships fall apart; if that weren't true, you'd never see an officeholder make an endorsement. If she can't manage that, then she doesn't have what it takes to be a Senator.

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17. Okay, but she isn't yet an office holder.

When she has the office, she can make all the endorsements she wants, and there will be two elections in the next four years where constituents can vote her out on the basis of those endorsements, but her statement tonight makes it pretty clear that she will be voting for the Democratic mayoral candidate.

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6. No disrespect: I don't believe it.

>>>>Kennedy also implied that she'd voted for Democrat Freddy Ferrer over Mayor Mike Bloomberg, her local patron, in 2005: "I've been a Democrat all my life," she said. "I am, you know, a Democrat through and through. I've always voted Democratic. You know, that is where my heart lies." A spokesman, Stefan Friedman, confirmed she'd voted for Ferrer.>>>>>

Lots of people on this board and elsewhere were insisting that Bloomberg was "really" a DEM in the race vs. Ferrer. That he had only changed his registration in 2001 to avoid being defeated by Mark Green in the DEM primary in 2001.

They ignored Bloomberg's acknowledged party affiiliation ( *Republican*), his massive $$$$ support for GWB's reelection in 2004, his support of the Iraq war, his harrassment of antiwar demonstrators in 2002, 2003, and 2004 and numerous other non-Democratic actions and attitudes.

Caroline's playing games. She's becoming embarrassing. If she voted for Ferrer in 2005 , why didn't she publicly support him? If she voted for Green vs. Bloomberg in 2001, why didn't she publicly support Green? Why does she have a "spokesman" declare outright that she voted for Ferrer... why doesn't she say that herself?


Your header:
>>>>Caroline Kennedy voted for DEMOCRAT Freddy Ferrer, not Bloomberg, in 2005>>>>

If Bloomberg was "really" a DEM... as was insisted by people here in 2005... then she could have voted for Bloomberg just as easily as she could have voted for Ferrer. No?

In the article she says: "I've always voted Democratic". According to Bloomberg's admirers ( she would appear to be among them: worked in the Bloomberg adninistration , in fact) Bloomberg was/is "really a Democrat".

Point: your header is a *claim*. Not substantiated by the substance of the article.

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8. No, Bloomberg is not a Dem. I agree with you fully there.

As for who Caroline voted for in 2005, she said tonight that she's always voted for Dems, and her aide confirmed it, so on what evidence are you challenging that claim?

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11. On the basis that Bloomberg is/was "really" a DEM.

And only nominally a republican. If you accept that proposition, then she could have voted for Bloomberg AND voted Democratic.

I didn't make it up. It was a position that was posited and defended on this board *over and over* in 2005.

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13. Well, I don't accept that proposition. Do you?

If he was a Dem he would have had a Republican opponent and he clearly didn't. He ran against Ferrer and, unsurprisingly, flattened him.

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18. 'Course not. It doesn't matter whether I (or you) accept it.

It matters whether Ms. Kennedy accepts/accepted it. And whether or not she is being forthright in her account of her political history.

If she likes Bloomberg... she should say she likes Bloomberg. If she likes Bloomberg but never voted for him she should say THAT. If she doesn't like him ( this seems highly unlikely given her elaborate tap-dancing around the issue) she should say exactly that and she should explain WHY she doesn't like him.

She wants to be a senator. A US *Senator*.

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20. CK said she votes for Dems, and Friedman said she voted for Ferrer.

So do you think they were both lying? I don't think there's any doubt that Bloomberg is not a Democrat, and Caroline said she's always voted for Democrats, so unless she was lying, she voted for Ferrer, and that's who Friedman said she voted for.

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14. No, Caroline is not becoming embarassing..

that's your narrow view.

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12. Hey, I just saw Caroline Kennedy on

my local tv station give her first interview and I really liked it.

I knew I liked Caroline for the job but this interview has me even more convinced. The interviewer(didn't catch his name) kept telling the audience that there were no preconditions to his interview and that he could ask her anything...aw, here's the interview!.."Inside City Hall"..


NY1 Exclusive: Caroline Kennedy Discusses Her Senate Hopes, Remembers Her Family
By: NY1 News

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"For the first time since announcing her interest in assuming Hillary Clinton's Senate seat, Caroline Kennedy opened up in an exclusive NY1 interview about her qualifications for high office as well as private reminisces of her family.

In her 30-minute conservation with NY1 political anchor Dominic Carter, Kennedy discussed her father, President John F. Kennedy, and discounted criticism that she's running on her family’s fame."


http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stories/91326/-i-ny1-exclusive---i--caroline-kennedy-discusses-her-senate-hopes--remembers-her-family/Default.aspx

The interview

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16. Thanks for the link!

I saw a transcript and it looks like a great interview! It sounds like she's got her ducks in a row doesn't it?

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19. She'd be so good...

Here's to Gov Paterson making the best decision for New York.

Turns out Paterson comes from a long line of famous pols, too:)

http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield?page=1

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21. So much for the dynasty issue, lol.

Very nice family, and that haircut is the coolest!!

:thumbsup:

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22. I really like Paterson~ They're having a

year end political wrapup on this local station, too, with clips of Spitzer and Paterson giving short interviews back when Paterson was Lt Gov. I like how he expresses himself..he seems very kind and very intelligent.

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23. He's got a sense of humor

and that counts for something at least. It's nice to hear New York is in good hands because when they pulled that switcheroo business here in California we got terminated.

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24. Yes, sense of humor..how could

I forget that?!

We got lucky.