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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:03 PM
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Gaza, Katrina, Iraq, Syria, NKorea, Wounded Knee, Dunkirk, Waterloo,
Battle of the Bulge, Falkland Island War......etc

When Losers are in Charge....see what Happens....History is a wonderful Teacher...

Far too many Leaders forget to read pertinent History...coulda saved some hurt....

Someday, we People must install some kind of filter system to weed out the inept and focus on the competent....we pay a dear price for ignoring this....

"Peters" in Leadershop Roles is not advisable.....
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:08 PM
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1. it's all Custer at Little Big Horn revisited
ego's overtake research. Plus it helps when you have the ability to write the history books
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:09 PM
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2. How does dunkirk apply here?
just curious?
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:14 PM
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3. Or Waterloo, for that matter?
The victor famously called it a 'close run thing'.
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:28 PM
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5. The History Channel depicts one of Napoleons Generals fucking up
during the battle....that was the horseshoe leading to the defeat...weakest link syndrome...
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:23 PM
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6. Napoleon was in overall charge, and no-one ever thought him incompetent
There are various "perhaps if ..." scenarios you can use for the battle, but it's not really an "this one general screwed it all up" battle. A French view at the time:

In my opinion, four principal causes led to this disaster: The first, and most influential, was the arrival, skilfully combined, of Blücher, and the false movement that favored this arrival; the second, was the admirable firmness of the British infantry, joined to the sang-froid and aplomb of its chiefs; the third, was the horrible weather, that had softened the ground, and rendered the offensive movements so toilsome, and retarded till one o'clock the attack that should have been made in the morning; the fourth, was the inconceivable formation of the first corps, in masses very much too deep for the first grand attack.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Waterloo
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 04:04 PM
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8. Nevertheless, Napolean gets the Blame for the defeat....he was not incompetent
I remember one of his Generals attacking at a bad time....result...loss/defeat

The Point is....Leaders fall into 2 general categories...either competent or not....

We Humans have a propensity of picking the wrong ones...and like ole Murphy sez....Just when ya not supposed to do it...ya go and get the worst of the Bunch to lead the Troops...

such is Bush and his Inept Crew...
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 02:26 PM
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4. Military mistakes happen on both sides....Battles are won and lost
all the time...

The diff is the level of mistakes and the tactics/strats employed...
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-31-08 03:25 PM
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7. From my reading in military history, it seem like that side
that makes the least number of mistakes usually wins. You are correct, mistakes happen on both sides.
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