INFORMATION FOR FLOWERS FOR ELIZABETH

[ourbluenation]

Sorry for shouting..wanted to get everyone's attention. I just spoke with a "Ken" from Chapel Hill Florist (800-917-1001), right around the corner from the Edwards campaign. He said DUrs could contact them directly and they'll set aside everyones money into a DU pot, and then when we're done (by a date certain), they'll go out and get as many long stem roses for Elizabeth as we can afford...he also said we'd get a deal since it will no doubt be a lot.

Is this how you all want to handle this?

[cally]

1. Umm..how do we contact them??..nt

[ourbluenation]

3. the 800 number is in the post above

[Nikki Stone1]

I like this idea

:kick:

[NMDemDist2]

2. that's a great idea, but don't you think the Edwards' would rather the $$$

go to cancer research or care of indigent folks with health care needs?

[Nikki Stone1]

4. We could probably do both

Some could cover the flowers, others the donations

[ourbluenation]

6. friend, you're certainly free to do both...

:)

[Eurobabe]

16. I just made a donation in her name to National Breast Cancer Foundation in her name

http://www.nationalbreastcancer.org/contribution/bb-index.html

[Maddy McCall]

23. I agree with you...

but not only that--since this is a group DU effort, DUers should decide together how to demonstrate their affection for Elizabeth.

Like I said before, this seems to be a little too rushed for an adequate number of DUers to give their opinion.

[progressoid]

35. Exactly.

[Contrary1]

5. I doubt that Elizabeth will be home much to enjoy the flowers.

How about a donation to the American Cancer Society, or Y-Me in her name?

[ourbluenation]

9. By all means organize that...but I think some here would like to send her flowers.

[Contrary1]

13. Didn't mean to sound like

I was putting down your idea. Of course, flowers are a nice gesture.
As a BC survivor, my first thought is always research.

Hope no offense was taken.

[ourbluenation]

15. Not at all - no worries.

:)

[demnan]

7. Recommended

Thanks!

[yy4me]

8. I'll send $$, she is an inspiration and we need to make her

aware that we care. Seeing a large delivery of flowers will certainly bring a smile to that beautiful face.

[ourbluenation]

18. ITA....

:)

[NJCher]

10. I say both but does it have to be roses?

They don't last very long. How about another type of nice bouquet? Also, we can do both. Set aside X amount for the bouquet, everything over that goes to cancer research donation.

Please guys, consider another type of flower!



Cher

[ourbluenation]

14. It's the easiest for the florist to organize on short order. Mixed bouquets

complicates things a bit and will slow everything down.

[Seedersandleechers]

85. I agree. I buy fresh flowers every other week-but never roses

They just don't last long..With other floral arrangements, water changes, and stem clippings they last 2 weeks...

[Nikki Stone1]

129. What lasts the longest?

?

[LiberalHeart]

105. My carnation purchases always last forever. Nearly.

Pink tied with pink ribbons.

[Seedersandleechers]

143. I can keep carnations around for 3 weeks.

Roses two days. That's just me. I'm a miser who loves fresh flowers year round....

[ourbluenation]

11. When you contact them, make sure you mention DU.

Jesus - I didn't check with the mods - is this okay?

[wakeme2008]

12. kick and nom :) nt

[NightWatcher]

17. thanks for the initiative

I'll give them a call later today and also send some to the campaign website since he's staying around (ha, politico-losers).

[ourbluenation]

21. you were the inspiration...

:)

[Nikki Stone1]

121. :)

:D

[mmonk]

19. Well since that's a pretty local address for me, I have no

problem but it depends on what people want to do.

[ourbluenation]

20. Contact the florist directly, with whatever dollar amount you can do...it will be a collective

gesture from DUr's.

[Maddy McCall]

22. You're jumping the gun a little bit.

DUers should decide together whether they want to send flowers or donate to a cancer research fund.

And I think rules state that you have to run any fundraisers through him first before you post about them.

[ourbluenation]

24. well we don't have a voting process...just do whatever your comfortable with.

how about that?

[Maddy McCall]

26. Actually, we do, and we've utilized it in the past...

in organizing other things like this.

And, any effort like this should go through Skinner first...I think the rules state that.

[ourbluenation]

28. why can't people who want to send her flowers do that? I'm confuzzled.

[Maddy McCall]

30. Have you even PM'd Skinner to ask about this?

:shrug:

If you are organizing something like this, you should talk to him first.

[ourbluenation]

33. I sent an email.

[Maddy McCall]

34. Might be best to wait on a response before you proceed.

[JuniperLea]

49. Umm... because someone is a control freak???

I think your idea is wonderful. And if Skinner had any reason to poo poo the idea, this thread would surely have been yanked a long time ago.

I think the way you organized it is perfect. People can do as they please... it's the American way... still... this week anyway.

[Nikki Stone1]

108. Skinner has approved it

:kick:

[JuniperLea]

110. I saw that! Good deal!

If there were anything wrong with doing this, the thread would have been pulled right away. I'm sure Skinner was busy, as usual, and just didn't get a chance to get back right away.

[file83]

158. The reason is so that DU'rs don't get scammed.

That's why it's a rule. I'm not accusing you of that, but you understand, right?

For example, someone could post an 800 number, collect credit card numbers or pay pal donations, etc, and then profit.

To prevent that, it's good general rule, to clear the process with Skinner (to verify destinations) and then go with it.

[JuniperLea]

163. Skinner HAS approved this

And had it been all that big a deal, the thread would have disappeared long ago.

Logic dictates this mission is a go!

[redqueen]

25. Yes... I like the cancer research fund idea, myself. n/t

[robinlynne]

66. but Elizabeth said she prefers a donation to the edwards campaign.

which, right now, may be very much more important than a donation to cancer research.

[redqueen]

73. Oops! Sorry, didn't know she'd weighed in ...

sounds like a pretty good idea. :)

[robinlynne]

76. it was on the radio! why is everyone going for the cancer society when she asked

for donations to her husband's campaign!

[redqueen]

81. I would guess cause not everyone is glued to the radio...

I hope you're not as upset by this as you seem.

:hi:

[robinlynne]

98. no. waiting for everyone to figure it out as a group, and I'll go along.

I was just frustrated, cause noone was listening to the obvious.

[Nikki Stone1]

127. People have different ways of showing concern

I don't think that should be limited

[JuniperLea]

130. Well said

Each walks to the beat of a different drummer, and all that:)

[Nikki Stone1]

146. Or a trumpet on occasion..

:)

[Nikki Stone1]

27. No reason DUers can't do both. We've got a lot of people here

I like the fact that someone is trying to organize it

[Maddy McCall]

29. There's a difference in organizing and making a decision without input.

I'd appreciate any effort in DU's name being run before DUers first, to get their opinion.

And, as I said before, it would also seem proper to run this before Skinner--as the rules state.

[ourbluenation]

32. i've now gone from totally excited to totally bummed out. wow.

[JuniperLea]

54. Don't be bummed~!

You done good! Don't let the busy bodies kill your positive buzz!!!! Gads! I dislikes me some busy freakin' bodies! No reason to put the kibosh on such a thoughtful gesture! Jeez!!!

[Bjornsdotter]

86. Don't be bummed

I think you've had a great idea. I plan to contribute.

Cheers :hug:

[JuniperLea]

51. If Skinner were against this

Don't you think this thread would have been pulled long ago?

Why can't people just do what they want to do without all this BS? It's still a free country, this week...

[oldtime dfl_er]

84. I'll be happy to donate to both

Flowers are just a nice, personal gesture. Nothing wrong with spending a little on that. Maybe we coudl all just send a buck or two for flowers, and a larger amount to the campaign.

http://www.cafepress.com/scarebaby/2736671

[hedgehog]

31. kick

Although I sent money to the campaign. We need Edwards on the national political scene.

[Shakespeare]

36. One, she won't be home to enjoy them, and two, I think she'd appreciate a donation more...

....to the American Cancer Society. I understand that your intentions are good, but I don't think flowers are the best way we can show our care and support here.

[ourbluenation]

38. Some DU'rs would like to send tokens of love in the form of flowers

...and...contribute to ACS in her name. Don't see why we can't do both, but hey - that's just me.

[Shakespeare]

40. I'll repeat: She's not going to be there to enjoy them.

I understand why you want to send them, but she won't even be around to SEE them. Her schedule's booked solid. Why not concentrate our efforts on ONE line of donations that'll really do the most good and, honestly, MEAN MORE to Elizabeth?

[ourbluenation]

42. how do you know her schedule?

[Shakespeare]

43. Because she talked about it during the news conference. n/t

[MidwestTransplant]

61. I agree. Flowers will make her smile. Whomever wants to send money for

research can do that too in their own name or in her name.

[Nikki Stone1]

114. Yep

:kick:

[ourbluenation]

37. Update - I've emailed Skinner to ask if we can do this on his board....

so lets hold off until this is approved.

[ourbluenation]

44. update #2 - I've emailed one of the mods on this forum as well.

still haven't heard back....

:(

[JuniperLea]

58. This thread would have been pulled long ago if you were breaking any rules

There's no good reason why individuals who happen to post on the same message board can't call the same damn florist to do the same damn good deed!

And so what if she isn't where the flowers are delivered? Who's to say someone won't bring her a few at a time... or bring her pictures...

God!! I swear! The level of BS on this thread is unfreakingbelieveable!!!

[Triana]

39. COOL!

Thanks to you and Chapel Hill Florist!! K & R

[Marie26]

41. How about donating to a cancer charity in her name instead? nt

[Nikki Stone1]

119. Good idea as well

....

[Dinger]

45. Thanks For The Info

I'll donate, happily:)

[Nikki Stone1]

136. Doing so

./././.

[Little Wing]

46. Donate it to research, flowers just sit there and die

[EFerrari]

47. Yes!

Thanks, ourbluenation. :hug:

[ourbluenation]

48. UPDATE # 3 - Skinner approves of this message! Please keep this kicked.

:grouphug:

[Nikki Stone1]

113. Okey Dokey

:yourock:

[demnan]

50. I made a donation here and one to the campaign

that made the most sense. Thanks for coordinating.

[woo me with science]

52. Much prefer donations to cancer research. nt

[robinlynne]

64. no, she asked for donations to the edwards campaign, not cancer research!

[LibraLiz1973]

53. In NO way trying to be negative. However,

Because of the Edwards financial situation Elizabeth could buy mountains of flowers. (And my guess would be that John will keep her in beautiful blooms- they probably already get regular (Weekly) flower deliveries. Not to mention all the friends and politicians who will now send flowers)

I am thinking it might be more meaningful to donate money to the American Cancer Society OR send flowers to cancer patients in the Chapel Hill area hospital in Elizabeth's name?

I think you definitely have a great idea here though and you can count me in for a donation.


ON EDIT: SPELLING

[ourbluenation]

56. I'll bet you anything she would donate the flowers....but that's up to her.

I'm doing both, flowers and cancer society donation, in her name.

:)

[JuniperLea]

59. She could donate mountains of money to research too

If that's what she wants to do.

I'm curious to know what is fueling this dissing of a damn fine idea! Up and down this thread are posts that are trying to take the wind out of another's sails... and for what? Jeebus H. Cripes on a Cracker!

[ourbluenation]

62. it made me sad Junperx. I don't understand it myself.

[JuniperLea]

68. Hang in there!

You done good! I'm making that call. I don't have to answer to these posters' Negative Nellie attitudes!

[LibraLiz1973]

72. Oi Vey. This is how GD gets a bad rap.

Merely suggesting that money be raised to go to cancer research as opposed to flowers makes you a Negative Nellie!!


That's just silly. Everyone cares & wants to help... whats so negative???

[JuniperLea]

75. There is a standing tradition here to send flowers

The OP, through the goodness of her heart, starts a thread to get it going... and is bombarded with a bunch of people telling her it would be better to do something else. Not silly at all. This is by definition, negative. Everyone cares and wants to help, so everyone should do what their hearts lead them to do. They should not hijack another's thread with their "better idea".

[Name removed]

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[Shakespeare]

112. I agree. We have the opportunity to do something truly significant right now.

If we could get the admins to host a donation drive like the one they did over the holidays (for poverty/food banks), we could do so much more than just come up with a sizeable donation in Elizabeth's name. The visibility of it would raise awareness, not just for anybody stopping by the site, but for all of us who post here daily.

And while the idea of sending flowers is sweet, I just see it as wasteful and pointless. So sad, such a huge missed opportunity.

[Nikki Stone1]

131. Hi Agent Mike!

:D

[JuniperLea]

133. HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHA!

:rofl:



Indeed!

[Nikki Stone1]

135. Can you imagine Agent Mike reading DU today?

Heh heh heh....:)

[JuniperLea]

138. He'd throw out the old code books...

Because there's a whole new batch of unintelligible palaver! He'd run scared!


hehe!

[Nikki Stone1]

140. Ah yes. We could just give him a beer.

:toast:

[JuniperLea]

142. Agent Mike is the kind of guy you want to have a beer with!

That's the ticket!



:toast:




:hi: Agent Mike!

[Nikki Stone1]

144. I'll bet he only drinks Bud, though

I could go for a Sam Adams right now...

[JuniperLea]

145. Bud?!?!?! Blech!

But looks who he works for... 'splains the taste!

A Sam sounds good to me too! Or a Firestone Double Barrel Ale!

[Nikki Stone1]

147. Mmmm...

:toast:

[LibraLiz1973]

70. Please don't take my post as an assault on the OP.

I clearly stated that I was not trying to be negative. My intent is not to "dis" her.

Not everyone wants to put money into flowers that may not be seen & will quickly die- whereas a donation the the American Cancer Society or to Breast Cancer Research will get alot accomplished.


The OP should not take it so personally- it is a LOVELY idea and pretty much everyone has said they want to donate SOMETHING.

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[robinlynne]

69. guys, not the cancer society. the edwards campaign!!!!! with a good president

cancer research will be funded! but it doesn't work the other way around.

[Nikki Stone1]

115. ....

...

[Richard D]

55. My thoughts

Maybe it would be nice if we arranged for a bunch to go out every week rather than all at once. That way there would always be fresh flowers from us.

[Nikki Stone1]

111. That Bush toilet paper is hilarious!

:D

[Richard D]

164. Thank you!

The magic of photoshop.

[Rhiannon12866]

57. K&R, from me! Excellent idea. And everyone loves flowers,

regardless of their financial situation. It lets them know that they're loved and thought of. I agree that we could probably do both. :-)

[Nikki Stone1]

120. ....

..

[ourbluenation]

60. Just talked to the florist...they have recieved ONE donation so far.

:(

[LibraLiz1973]

63. Not everyone is able to drop everything and donate

Remember tomorrow is payday!! :)


And some people might just want to donate to the A.C.S. in her honor.

[Nikki Stone1]

109. People have all kinds of choices

And there are lots of DUers to do it.

[MidwestTransplant]

65. When people get off work more will donate. Don't be discouraged!

[ourbluenation]

67. your right....my bad. and I'm happy for all the love we're showing for this wonderful gal on DU

:)

[Nikki Stone1]

92. She's one of my faves, ourbluenation

I am so sorry about what she has to go through.

[Janice325]

74. I think this is a great idea.

I'll call the toll free number later today or tomorrow.
For what it's worth, I've already donated $20.08 today to both the Edwards campaign and the American Cancer Society.
I certainly don't mind sending flowers as well. I think it's a great gesture, especially if it's from DU.
Thanks OP and Skinner!
:thumbsup:

[Nikki Stone1]

79. Me too!

This is great!

[LiberalinNC]

80. Make the roses PINK and I'm in!

[Nikki Stone1]

82. Pink is nice

:)

[JuniperLea]

83. That's one of the many beauties of this idea!

You make the call, you place the order, you give them what to say on the note! Beautiful idea.

[Nikki Stone1]

87. I agree!

Great idea all around.

And people can still donate to the American Cancer Society if they like.

[LiberalinNC]

88. I'm a 13 year BC survivor...I believe there is a BC rose.

Thanks! ;)

[Nikki Stone1]

90. Really? I didn't know that

Is there a particular shade?

[LiberalinNC]

96. The shade is similar to the ribbon for breast cancer - Light Pink!

[Nikki Stone1]

99. AH. That makes sense

That just seems so right

[JuniperLea]

91. Congratulations!!! That's wonderful!!!

I'll have to look into that rose! Wonderful idea... two birds and all that!

My grandmother survived over 20 years, succumbing to complications of diabetes and heart disease in her late 80's.

Get those mammograms! I get one every year on or around Valentine's Day... easy day to remember to love myself enough to get the exam!

Best of luck with your continued success!

:hug:

[LiberalinNC]

93. That's the best thing you can do for yourself and your family.

Cancer doesn't know age, and it doesn't disciminate...I was only 28 when diagnosed. It's a horrible disease - but it is curable if caught early. Your grandmother sounds like she was an awesome lady!!

[JuniperLea]

97. She was!

So full of life and love. I'm one of 10 grandchildren, and we all loved her so much. We are all very careful about our mam appointments because of her.

Twenty-eight is so young! Hard to know why life teaches us these lessons at such a tender age. You are so lucky! And clearly we are lucky to have you here;)

[LiberalinNC]

101. Again, Thanks!

Unfortunately there was nothing I could do to prevent myself from getting bc...it was in the genes. I pray that Mrs. Edwards beats this horrible disease...to have it in your bones is really serious. I'll have to send her a card with a supportive note. We BC Sisters MUST stick together. Again, thanks!

[Nikki Stone1]

118. I have both friends and family members who are survivors of this disease

it's really scary when it gets in the bones. So far, the women I know have done very well, but it's a day to day struggle.

[LiberalinNC]

95. I'll call later today and order LIGHT PINK roses!!!

The Light Pink is the shade of the breast cancer ribbon!

[helderheid]

100. GREAT!!

[JuniperLea]

103. Brilliant idea!

Two messages in one rose. Excellent:)

[Bjornsdotter]

89. PINK

You are a genius! :hug:

Cheers

[LiberalinNC]

94. Thanks!

And Cheers to you! ;)

[helderheid]

102. WEBSITE:

http://www.chapelhillfloristltd.com/

[Nikki Stone1]

104. THANK YOU!

Appreciate it.

[ourbluenation]

106. Reminder - this is a collective "pot" of money we are putting together thru the florist.

to be used to purchase a boat load of roses for Elizabeth from "members of the DU" so please mention DU when you call. I think we should keep this going for a few days, and then I'll call the florist this weekend and get it all finalized. Pink roses are an excellent idea. :)

[Nikki Stone1]

107. Kicking the reminder

:yourock:

[DeepBlueC]

151. just so I understand how to do this...

I should call Chapel Hill Florist (800-917-1001 or 919-929-2903) and tell them you I am from DU & how much I want to chip in...?

[ourbluenation]

153. that's it. Then after a few days they'll collect it all and purchase the roses.

:)

[DeepBlueC]

154. OK, thanks

I'm going to do that tomorrow.

[DeepBlueC]

155. I think it's a lovely idea

It has lifted MY spirits!

[HuffleClaw]

116. wouldn't it be better to inquire of the edwards what THEY would prefer?

i'm sure a LOT of well-meaning people are flooding 'em with piles of flowers. perhaps a donation to a charity?

[Nikki Stone1]

117. There are lots of threads on this

Elizabeth asked for donations to the campaign

Some folks are making a donation for cancer research

Some want to send flowers.

Take your pick...it's all good.

[Maddy McCall]

122. ELIZABETH EDWARDS asked for donations to her husband's campaign.

A DUer called the Edwards Campaign, and got a response. Elizabeth prefers donations to her husband's campaign.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=476656&mesg_id=476656

[Nikki Stone1]

123. Yes, there were posts on that, hon

Some people would like to do something additional and I see no problem with that either. All of us feel badly about Elizabeth and we're all trying to figure out the best way to honor her.

[Maddy McCall]

126. I was responding to the poster who asked.

Some DU'ers haven't been hovering over this thread all day.

[Nikki Stone1]

128. But you've been in from time to time.

Nice to see you. :)

[ourbluenation]

124. Hasn't that been stated about a million times here?

it's been made perfectly clear many times here, that dur's can show her some love in several different ways. sending flowers is one way.

[Nikki Stone1]

125. Yeah, we all grieve in our own way and I think that is providing a lot of the emotional energy

behind this. It's such a sad day for those of us who admire Elizabeth Edwards.

[piesRsquare]

132. How about white roses?

Can they do white roses?

and is it too late to donate right now?

[Nikki Stone1]

134. Hey Pie R Round, not square.

...

[piesRsquare]

137. LoL!

...and :hi: to you, too!

[Nikki Stone1]

139. Cornbread are square. :)

:hi:

[AnotherMother4Peace]

141. OBN - you are a sweetie for doing this - I know it will be a pick-me-up for her.

I think this is the best way to do it - call the florist directly and have them handle it. I hope they include vases.

We had some wonderful DUers take flowers to Helen Thomas a while back. They worked hard buying the flowers, finding vases, delivering, and organizing the flowers. Bless their hearts.

A donation, a new vacuum cleaner, a new broom - they're all nice (and you need them) - but there is nothing like roses.

[Janice325]

148. Has anyone gotten an update as to how many DU'ers have

sent a donation for flowers thus far?

[ourbluenation]

150. i was planning on calling in the am. I figured they're closed now.

[Nite Owl]

149. I just got in

I heard Elizabeth and John in the car though. She is such a great person I hope she beats the odds. Love the idea of flowers, they are personal, just for her at this time. Those who want to do other things can do that too but this is just to make Elizabeth smile and know we with her. I'll call the florist in the am.

[NastyRiffraff]

152. I'll call in the AM

ourbluenation, don't get discouraged. There are ALWAYS people here who attack any idea.

BTW, if those who want to donate to some cause, organize it. Yes, you. Instead of bitching about what someone else is doing. Thank you very much.

[ourbluenation]

156. FRIENDS - Just talked to the florist and they have $15 in the pot so far. n/t

[file83]

159. Advice...

You should start a new official "Roses for Elizabeth Edwards" thread. This thread is posed as a question - it needs to be firmly solid and clear that it is all decided, set up, and ready to roll. :thumbsup:

[DeepBlueC]

161. excellent idea nt

[DeepBlueC]

160. I just called...

added my bit. Ken said he had had three or four calls this morning. I hope we can do this.

[Janice325]

157. I just donated $20.08 for flowers. I spoke to a nice man named

Ken, who said thus far, it's less than $100.00.However, he said someone had called 2 minutes before I did.
C'mon, folks, I've been unemployed for over a year, but I've donated to the Edwards campaign, American Cancer Society as well as flowers, $20.08 for each of the three donations.

[EC]

162. I just called and donated

he said it's up to $150. now...What is wrong with us that we can't do this for her? This is a tradition to show our appreciation...it's news worthy...and will show her that we put her in the highest esteem, just as we did for Barbara Boxer and Helen Thomas...who cares where Elizabeth wants us to donate, we can do that too, but this is for her and her alone, let's get on it....

[Janice325]

165. Any more news about the amount that's been donated?

Inquiring donors would like to know. :-)