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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 12:17 PM
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Attention all PS3 owners!
Source: http://folding.stanford.edu/

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Read more: http://folding.stanford.edu/FAQ-PS3.html



PS3' 1.6 patch adds the feature Folding at home to your XMB under internet. It's easy to do and a good way to put you PS3 computing power to good use while your not playing games. Please if you have one take the 5 minutes it takes to install the program, and help your fellow man.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 12:28 PM
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1. You might as well use your PS3 for this purpose
It's not like there's many games worth playing on it.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 12:41 PM
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2. Please don't be a XBOX or Wii fanboy on here.
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 12:41 PM by SIMPLYB1980
Resistance, Motostorm, Fightnight, Oblivion. Many more to come. Oh yeah I have a 360 and the Wii's graphics suck.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:09 PM
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4. Not a fanboy, just someone who closely follows the game console market
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 01:11 PM by Tempest
I have a PS2 and just finished God of War II (great game). Funny how it wasn't made available on the PS3.


The facts are out there, and even admitted to by Sony, that they screwed the pooch on the PS3. That's why the president of Sony Entertainment was demoted.

Of all the games you listed, only Motostorm (despite it's problems) is worth playing according to friends of mine who on the PS3. And Oblivion has been available on the 360 for a year. I've played Resistance and it's no better than Killzone (which I own).

If you think the graphics on the 360 suck, you must hate the graphics on the PS3. Reviews and comparisons of the same games available for both systems have proven the 360 graphics are superior. Not only that, but the graphics chip in the PS3 is inferior at this time to the 360. Half of the graphics chip in the PS3 isn't even being used because the programmers haven't figured out how to program for it or even if it will be financially viable to develop for it.

There's also the issue of the blu-ray disk drive being much slower than the 360 drive. The drive in the PS3 is so slow, Oblivion on the PS3 isn't being improved, it's being copied over several times on the disk just to improve the speed. And even with the duplicate copying, the load times are still going to be slower than on the 360 according to Bethesda.

Then there's the issue of Playstation exclusives becoming available on the 360. The reason given by the developers? Because there's not enough money in staying exclusive to the PS3 like there was with the PS2.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:47 PM
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8. You are obviously a fan boy.
Both systems have there ups and downs.

They were working on GOW2 before the PS3 dev. kits came out. GOW3 will be a PS3 exclusive.

Resistance is the best game out, Motostorm is good but can't compete with 40 player online.

First of all I never said graphics suck on the 360. I said they suck on the wii. I have both and can tell you Oblivion looks much better on the PS3, and load times are faster.

Blu-ray is winning the format war.

Lots of exclusives left.
Metal Gear Solid 4
Devil May Cry 4
Lair
Warhawk - FAQ & Guide
8 Days
Motorstorm
Ridge Racer 7
Resistance: Fall of Man - All you need to know
Fatal Inertia
Naughty Dog Project
Gran Turismo HD
Coded Arms: Assault
5th Phatom Saga
The Wall
Gateway
Mobile Suit Gundam Cossfire
Untold Legends: Dark Kingdom
The Eye of Judgment
Bladestorm: The 100 year War
Unreal Tournament 07
Final Fantasy Xlll
Final Fantasy Vs Xlll
Afrika
Jak & Daxter
Ratchet and Clank
Virtua Fighter 5
Eyedentify
Killzone
Heavenly Sword
Tekken 6
Full Auto 2
WarDevil: Enigma
Heavy Rain - as of now GS and IGN both only have it for PS3
Formula One 06
Genji 2
My SingStar
Ni-Oh
Mercenaries 2 - until proven non exclsuive due to the people in GS
L.A Noire
White Knights
Ninja Gaiden Sigma
Sirens
Rail fan
Metro 2033: The Last Refuge
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E-Z-B Donating Member (438 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:54 PM
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10. I don't own any next-gen consoles, but I do have a PS2 and Gamecube
And Sony did blow it. You should read last month's EGM where they interviewed Sony with what went wrong.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:10 PM
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12. Sony risks falling out of console battle
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:07 PM
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11. You obviously don't know what a fanboy is
I own a Microsoft Xbox and the 360, a Sony Playstation 2 and a Nintendo Gamecube. I've owned game systems from every manufacturer over the years.

That makes me the EXACT OPPOSITE of a fanboy.


"Oblivion looks much better on the PS3"

It was only released a couple of days ago and I'm betting you haven't seen it on the PS3 yet. Except for many the non-game CGI advertisements from Sony.



"Blu-ray is winning the format war"

Wrong.

Sales are so close that no one is winning the format war. And with manufacturers coming out with dual format DVD players, there will be a market for both HD and Blu-ray.



"Devil May Cry 4"
Nope, coming to the 360.

"Final Fantasy Xlll"
Nope, coming to the 360.

So are several of the other games on your list.


Something else to consider: Not one PS3 game shows up on the top ten list of games sold. Not since the PS3 was released. The list is controlled by the Wii and the PS2.


You obviously don't follow the game console market so it makes no sense to continue.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:14 PM
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13. Apparently you don't either.
You don't have a PS3 and your willing to trash it. That makes you a 360 fan boy.

I got Oblivion the day it came out on the PS3, and it looks better than the 360. Objects don't drop off screen like they did on 360, As a matter of fact there are new patches coming out to try to but the 360's texture and lighting properties.

Gears of War was the only game I have liked so far on the 360.

There are a lot of people that jumped on the 360 bandwagon. They act a lot like the people that jumped on the W bandwagon in 2000.



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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:21 PM
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17. There's one fanboy in this thread, buddy,
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 02:22 PM by Kelly Rupert
and it's you. You emotionally reacted to someone knocking the system you bought. You're a fanboy.

Me, I don't have a PS3. I don't have a 360. I don't have a Wii. I don't have any horse in this race. (Full disclosure: I had a Gamecube.) However, it's pretty obvious to me that Sony's on the losing end of this round of the console wars. When people say that Sony screwed up, it's not because they love their Wiis or 360s. It's because Sony screwed up.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:31 PM
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21. When the Sony executive in charge of the PS3 gets demoted
You know they screwed up.

And in less than three months after it was released Sony is already talking about lowering the price.

Sony is also cutting back on on support for PS2 games. A successful launch doesn't do that.


For the record, I'll buy a PS3 when the price goes down and there's enough exclusive games worth playing on it. Recently more and more Sony exclusive developers are moving over to the 360 as well as continuing PS3 development. Devil May Cry 4 and Final Fantasy 13 are both coming to the 360.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:26 PM
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19. You're hopeless
If I were a fanboy, I'd also be trashing the PS2. I own, and enjoy the PS2.


"I got Oblivion the day it came out on the PS3"
Considering it only shipped two days ago, I doubt you've had a chance to spend enough time on it to make an intelligent comparison with the 360.


"Objects don't drop off screen like they did on 360"
After playing it for more than 500 hours, I never had an object drop off the screen.


"Gears of War was the only game I have liked so far on the 360"
So why did you buy one? Have you played Prey, for example? Or Crackdown?


"There are a lot of people that jumped on the 360 bandwagon"
That doesn't make them fanboys. Many people, like yourself as you say, own a 360 along with other game systems.


And since you seem to not know, a fanboy is someone who is console specific and refuses to purchase or use a gaming system from any manufacturer other than the one they support.

But if you want to use what you consider a fanboy, you're also a fanboy the way you trash talk the 360.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:18 PM
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53. Let's try to get on a little better footing.
I understand what you are saying, but I think you have misunderstood were I am coming from. I have all the systems and they are each good at there own things. I do apologize if I was mistaken that you were a fanboy. That doesn't mean I agree with all the hate the PS3 gets. It doesn't deserve it. The reason I made this post was to praise the PS3 for doing something that could lend a little help to the scientific community. That is really what this thread should be about. Your first post on here was an insult about the system, which I took exception to because it had nothing to do with the topic.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:23 PM
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59. I could be accused of being a PS3 fanboy, but the selection of games really does suck
I was lucky enough to snag the 60GB model back in December, but I've had the same 3 games since then. Resistance really is an awesome game in almost all respects. Call of Duty 3 is decent (looks nice), but gets old quickly. Too much of the same thing. And Full Auto 2 is pretty lame even on the PS3 version. MLB 2K7 looks cool, so I'll probably buy that next.

The PS3 is an incredible machine (after about 4 firmware updates and a lot of wireless LAN hassles). Graphics are superb and a lot of the mechanics/menus are very well though out. Now that the firmware is finally stable, the machine works flawlessly. It runs hot, but everything I haven't seen any machine failures confirmed.

That said, I keep reading about a 360 update complete with HDMI and integrated HD-DVD, which ould be much more compelling. PS3 graphics look a little better than the 360 to me. It'll be interesting to see what all the "cell" processing can do since no game to date has taken advantage of it yet. The 360 looks good, but most of the games appear to be a PC-game port. I do like what I've seen in the WII but I won't buy that until the price drops. Will likely get a 360 once that one drops too.

I like my PS3, but it's the absolute crap selection of launch games that ticks me off. No one knows if anyone is going to win this "war" with this generation. It's all still so early, considering the projected 5+ year lifespan of each of these machines. I'll be patient for awhile longer, but I want my damned GTA and Resident Evil next-gen games ASAP!
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:27 PM
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63. The new 360 also comes with a 120GB hard drive
But they're only making a couple of hundred thousand of them. It's going to be a limited edition.

Speaking of Resident Evil... It's no longer a Playstation exclusive. It's also coming to the 360.
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kysrsoze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:42 PM
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69. Aw too bad on the limited 120GB drive availability. I'm sure it'll be commonplace eventually.
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 03:43 PM by kysrsoze
The one really nice Sony did was give the ability to swap the 60GB HD for whatever size you can afford to stuff into it. I believe you can also attach one via USB.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:53 PM
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74. It'll be standard on the next generation consoles
Swapping out the PS3 hard drive isn't as appealing as you might think. First, you will void the warranty and second, it takes a high priced small profile SATA drive.

I can't find any information on being able to use a USB hard drive on the PS3. I can find info on using the USB port for other purposes (bluetooth, keyboard, etc) but nothing on using it for a hard drive.
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fishwax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 04:05 PM
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78. oh please
You don't have a PS3 and your willing to trash it. That makes you a 360 fan boy.

As someone else already said, it appears there's one fanboy on this thread, and it isn't the poster you're talking to.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:27 PM
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20. Lots of those exclusives are no longer exclusives.
Devil May Cry 4 is coming to the 360, same thing with Virtua Fighter 5. And it's now looking like Final Fantasy XIII is coming to the 360 too. I'm pretty sure that Unreal Tournament 07 (now called Unreal Tournament 3) was never an exclusive, but it certainly isn't now. I'm guessing by the time a bunch of these are released, they won't be exclusives either. Developers are realizing that with this current generation of consoles that exclusivity isn't financially viable. Especially when working with a system as difficult to develop for as the PS3.

I'm not a fanboy either. I own a 360, but I might get a PS3 in the future if the cost goes down, mostly in order to get a cheap Blu-ray player, but MGS4 does look incredible. I'm just a bit disappointed in the PS3 because I loved my PS2, and a year ago I had such high hopes.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:36 PM
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23. VF5 may become a 360 exclusive
That's what the developers are hinting at.

According to reports, developers have to sell 500,000 copies of a game before they consider it a financial success. There's not that many PS3's that have been sold. And that's why Playstation exclusives are going over to the 360 as well.

Unless you can afford a HD TV with 1080p, you won't tell the difference between Blu-ray and HD. And not many people can afford that kind of a TV.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:44 PM
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31. That's not likely...
Considering that it's already out on the PS3. It should be coming to the 360 in a month or so. Oh, and HD-DVD supports 1080P as well, it just wasn't present in the first few player models. Also, HD-DVD uses a far more efficient compression algorithm for its video with MPEG4 as opposed to the VC-1 compression that Blu-ray is using now. So even though HD-DVD doesn't have the storage capacity that Blu-ray has as of yet, it's still capable of producing better video due to its efficiency.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:59 PM
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37. I was looking at an article from a year ago
At the time development for VF5 on the PS3 was put on hold and was rumored to be on the chopping block.

HD supports 1080p, but doesn't look as good as Blu-ray on the same TV (at least to me). I was in Best Buy going through a Blu-ray demonstration and they did a side-by-side comparison (same make and model TV was used).

New Blu-ray disks are using the MPEG4 AVC compression. They worked out the issues.

And HD is catching up to Blu-ray on storage capacity. They're up to 40GB dual layer now.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:07 PM
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43. I have yet to see a Blu-ray video using MPEG4
I'll reserve judgement until I see them side by side on my equipment. My projector supports 720P, so I guess 1080P would be lost on me anyway. I do have a monitor which supports resolutions above 1080P, but it's only 24", so I'd imagine that's too small to appreciate the extra resolution anyway. I'm kind of pushing for HD-DVD to win out because I'd much rather buy the $200 360 add-on than buying a standalone player for more than $500. Only time will tell.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:21 PM
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55. Blu-Ray MPEG4 movies
At least two I know of: Behind Enemy Lines and The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

Nothing to get excited about, that's for sure.


The problems I have with the 360 add-on HD drive is that it doesn't support the disk menus and the audio capabilities are lacking as well. I have a DTS surround sound system and the drive doesn't support it.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:27 PM
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64. Are you sure about that?
I know the drive lacks HDMI outputs, but according to this site at least, it supports Dolby Digital+, DTS and TrueHD audio codecs.
http://gizmodo.com/gadgets/home-entertainment/how-does-the-xbox-360-hd-dvd-work-212747.php
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:35 PM
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65. No HDMI port means no true DTS or TrueHD support
In effect, it's dumbed down without the HDMI port.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:38 PM
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67. Is there a reason True DTS and TrueHD can't be passed via optical?
I mean, toslink is a fully digital medium, I don't see why it wouldn't be able to pass on those signals to a receiver which is capable of decoding them. I know HDMI 1.3 was designed in order to pass on those signals concurrently with video, but I don't see why the optical out on the 360 couldn't pass on the audio alone.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:45 PM
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70. Figured it out...
The HD-DVD add on can, indeed, pass all current next-gen audio formats via toslink. It's just that many current receivers can only play back via analog inputs, or in more recent models via HDMI. Once receivers with built-in decoders become more prominent, this won't be an issue.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:49 PM
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73. Errr....
It's decoded internally first, then outputted via LPCM format on toslink.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:47 PM
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72. We're getting way beyond my expertise
But it has something to do with grounding. HDMI allows for grounding and optical doesn't. I'd have to research it but, I seem to remember grounding an audio signal improves it. I also remember something about distances and grounding. Even without grounding, optical is better for longer cable lengths. Although we're talking about distances beyond what would be used in this circumstances.

Time to call in an electrical engineer.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:55 PM
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75. As long as an audio signal remains in the digital domain, it's pristine...
Optical cables only limitation is the speed of light, if you can get the transmitting lasers and receivers to accept a faster signal, you can increase its bandwidth. The only reason that HDMI is able to pass on these signals to be decoded by receivers internally as opposed to pre-processed as in the case of optical is that HDMI has content protection built in. Toslink has more than enough bandwidth to handle any current and future audio formats. So, it's not that optical can't, the content providers won't. But that's a bit of a moot point if it can be decoded prior to reaching your receiver (audiophiles may disagree in that in this instance, the audio is spending more time in analog as opposed to being entirely digital until the signal reaches your receiver, but it's a difference not many are likely to notice.)
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 04:36 PM
Response to Reply #75
82. What is your feeling about wireless being used for digital audio signals?
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 04:37 PM by Tempest
Do you think it has potential for use in game consoles?

Expand it to video as well.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:46 PM
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71. You Write "TrueHD" As If it's...
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 03:50 PM by jayfish
some sort of specification or standard. It's Sony marketing drivel for 1080p. The 360 can do games in 1080p via component and HD-DVD in 1080p via VGA. The only reason that 1080p is limited to (mostly) HDMI is because of content protection schemes, not technical reasons. As a matter of fact, I think HDMI sucks. Gimme DVI any day of the week.

Jay

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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 04:01 PM
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77. DVI is becoming the standard for computer monitors
There's no reason why it couldn't become the standard for all video devices. I bet we'll see it on the next generation of consoles.

Currently there are few TVs sold that support VGA or 1080 so it's not really an issue for most of us. It'll be a some time before I'll be able to afford a TV capable of 1080p. At this point all I can do is stand in front of one at Best Buy and drool.

As far as TrueHD, MS promised it on the 360 but didn't deliver. It must have been to put a scare into Sony and nothing more.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 04:11 PM
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80. Actually DVI Is In The Process Of Being Relegated To The Dust Bin...
in favor of HDMI. This is because HDMI passes HDCP (see content protection) information where DVI does not.

Jay
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 04:40 PM
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83. DVI-A is still prevalent in computing
HDMI will supersede DVI-A in computing, but not for some time.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:09 PM
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46. LOL
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:23 PM
Response to Reply #20
56. Yep.
Sorry I didn't take the time to check the date. Clicked on an old link on Google.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:40 PM
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27. I have a Wii & a PS3 - love them both
Why the need to knock the Wii?
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:42 PM
Response to Reply #27
30. You fear what you don't know
Wii games are outselling PS3 games by a very wide margin.

In fact, Wii games dominate the game sales market right now.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:44 PM
Response to Reply #30
32. I love the Wii
My friends and I had a boxing match a few weeks back on Wii sports. What a sight that was, a bunch of adults flailing around at each other LOL :)
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:01 PM
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39. I like reading the stories about the Wii controllers
You know, the ones where people are accidently hitting each other and losing their grip and smashing up their TV and knick-knacks. ;)
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:11 PM
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47. I can never understand exactly how that happens.
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 03:12 PM by Kelly Rupert

(from Penny Arcade, of course)
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:24 PM
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60. In all fairness to the people it's happened to
There was a problem with the straps breaking. There was a recall on the straps.

www.nintendo.com/consumer/strapreplace.jsp
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:59 PM
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36. it does have the world's most dangerous controller
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:59 PM
Response to Reply #30
38. As are Wii consoles.
I'm considering picking one up. Of course, I haven't seen one on the shelves yet.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:05 PM
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40. Sony lost its dominance in Japan to the Wii
The fact that the PS3 got p'wned in Sony's own backyard by what Sony belittled every chance they got must have been especially gratifying to Nintendo.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:08 PM
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45. What goes around comes around.
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 03:10 PM by Kelly Rupert
Sony knocked Nintendo off both at home and abroad. Sony grew to embrace the worst, most arrogant aspects of Nintendo. Nintendo got smart--and innovative--and it looks like it's taking back its crown. This will be a very interesting round.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:38 PM
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66. This round will be more like the early rounds in a boxing match
They'll circle around sizing each other up.

The next round of consoles will be what distances one from the other, IMO.
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jayfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 04:08 PM
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79. Not Really.
http://www.cubed3.com/topic/21403/

Software for February, 2007

1.) Crackdown (360, Microsoft) - 427,361
2.) Wii Play w/Remote (Wii, Nintendo) - 370,592
3.) Diddy Kong Racing (NDS, Nintendo) - 262,031
4.) Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (Wii, Nintendo) - 130,063
5.) Guitar Hero 2 w/Guitar (PS2, Activision) - 129,735
6.) Gears of War (360, Microsoft) - 119,232
7.) Major League Baseball 2K7 (360, 2K Sports) - 113,447
8.) Lost Planet: Extreme Condition (360, Capcom) - 110,628
9.) WarioWare: Smooth Moves (Wii, Nintendo) - 108,888
10.) NBA Street Homecourt (360, EA) - 101,710

XBOX 360 titles hold five of the top-ten spots while wii titles hold three. Titles sold for XBOX 360 were around 8.7-million compared to 6.1-million for wii. That being said, wii sales are nothing to sneeze at.

Jay
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 04:51 PM
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84. When I said right now, I should have said last month
January's numbers were different. Gears of War, Rainbow Six and Lost Planet were the only 360 games on the list. There was only one PS3 game.

I'm a little behind.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:27 PM
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62. Sorry for the wii knock.
I love the wii, but there is no way that it's graphics can keep up with PS3 or 360.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 04:17 PM
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81. Nobody's asking its graphics to.
Go back and look at your old PlayStation games. Cutting-edge graphics at the time, now ugly, blocky, and unwatchable. Look at a Super Nintendo or Sega Genesis game. Still as crisp and good-looking as the day it came out. Heck, StarCraft's aged better than WarCraft III. Similarly, Homeworld still looks gorgeous. Quake III doesn't. Graphical power wows when it first comes out. Solid graphical design will look good forever. I'll bet you that in ten years, Wii Sports looks better than Gears of War. Pretty graphics fade.

What matters to most of the potential market isn't how many polygons it pushes. (There are those for whom it does, and they should buy a 360) What matters to most is how good the games are. Control matters. Depth of gameplay matters. Fun (yes, fun) matters above all. And in that regard--and judging from sales figures--Wii seems to be more than holding its own.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 12:42 PM
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3. PS3... nah
putting money away to replace this computer
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:14 PM
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5. But according to Sony, the PS3 is a computer
Sony boss Howard Stringer:

"PS3 is after a different audience and it can be whatever it wants - a home server, game device, even a computer."

He went on to say the PS3 was a dessert topping AND a floor wax.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:21 PM
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6. It is a computer.
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 01:21 PM by SIMPLYB1980
I have yellow dog linux running on mine. Blue tooth mouse and keyboard. I'm actually using it to post this right now.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:27 PM
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7. Which proves my point
About it being a crappy game console.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 01:51 PM
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9. No It just proves my point your a fanboy.
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 01:51 PM by SIMPLYB1980
I like the 360, like I said I have one of those to. But you are turning my thread about a something positive for humanity that the PS3 can do into a pissing contest about which console is better.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:15 PM
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14. Strawman
I never stated which console was better.

I merely pointed out, correctly, that you might as well use the PS3 for something other than gaming because as a game console (which is what it was marketed as) it currently sucks.


And as far as the original intent of your thread, you didn't have to respond to my one line post, so in effect you contributed to what you perceive as an affront. Me thinks thou protest too much.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:18 PM
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15. COLECO VISION PWNES you all!!! (PS3 OVERHEATING ISSUES?)
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 02:37 PM by gatorboy
Curious though as to how this will effect the life of a PS3. Knowing how certain consoles would overheat in the past, could this sort of use shorten the the life of a PS3 console?
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:18 PM
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16. I think it would be more efficient to design a dedicated supercomputer
how much electricity does a PS3 draw? Somewhere in the U.S. a large mass of coal is being burned for a device that would otherwise not be on.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:25 PM
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18. Actually, distributed computing is far more efficient.
It's much more efficient to use the billions of cycles that go wasted every minute across the world, as many computers are left on and taskless 24/7. However, I agree that the PS3 is not that efficient for this purpose, since (I would assume) it wouldn't otherwise be on.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:33 PM
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22. PC fanboy!! N/T
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:37 PM
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24. Don't make me give you a Soul Calibur beatdown!
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 02:37 PM by wuushew
your Voldo and Cervantes skillz will not prevail against Mitsurugi!
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:38 PM
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25. Is that a Dreamcast Soul Calibur beatdown?
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:40 PM
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26. The one and only...
The greatest fighter ever made on the greatest console ever made.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:46 PM
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33. My son and I dragged the ole DC out last night.
I was amazed they still had Quake Arena servers up in some areas. The system was alot more innovative than people give it credit for.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:56 PM
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34. Definitely.
It's a shame that's the console that ended Sega's career in the console making business. It was the first of the next-gen systems, yet it had graphics which seemed to put even the Xbox to shame. It had full screen anti-aliasing which the PS2 lacked, super quick loading times, and most importantly, great games. I would have loved to have seen what Sega would have created to compete with the 360, PS3 and Wii. Alas, it will never happen.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:08 PM
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44. I remember how well it played online.
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 03:09 PM by gatorboy
Even with narrow band.

On a PC, 150 Ping is damn near unplayable. But Sega figured out how to make it work. Even the voice recognition was ahead of it's time, console-wise.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:11 PM
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48. Do you remember Seaman for DC?
What a bizarre game. It included a mic which attached to your controller. You'd start off with a little larva type creature and he'd grow into this fully functioning Seaman with the support you provide from the microphone.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:13 PM
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49. God that thing was freaky. n/t
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:18 PM
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54. Ahhh, I could never keep the little guy alive.
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 03:23 PM by gatorboy
I'd always crank up the DC and the poor bastard would be floating at the top. He was a jerk, anyway. :rofl:

There was game called Alien Front Online that I used the mic for and played quite a bit before they shut those servers down.

I also remember that you could even talk to other folk online DC to DC.

Here's a site with DC servers that are still available if you're interested:

http://dreamcast.onlineconsoles.com/phpBB2/portal.php
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:23 PM
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57. Thanks, I'll check that out.
I still have my DC, but it's currently at Serv-pro due to a fire we had. I might brush it off once I get it back. I assume you'd need dial up access to use any of its online functionality? Did they release an ethernet adapter for it? That would be sweet. I so want a Dreamcast 2.
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gatorboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:25 PM
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61. They do have a broadband adapter.
But it's insanely expensive these days. On ebay they go for $150-$200. I think you can still play most of those servers on narrowband though.
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:39 PM
Response to Reply #48
68. Seaman rocked.
I had forgot all about that. Wish they would make another.
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wicket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:57 PM
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35. Yay!!!
I love the Dreamcast :D
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:05 PM
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41. I'm sorry, that honor belongs to the N64.
Knock it all you like, but there isn't a better party system, even still. The thing sucked for single-player, sure, but when you've got three friends over, nothing better than GoldenEye, Perfect Dark, Mario Kart 64, or Smash Brothers.

Dreamcast was the best system of its generation, though. I bought one for $30 on eBay. Ended up liking it more than my GameCube.
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wuushew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:23 PM
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58. 4 Player GoldenEye = worst eye strain ever
I never understood how any of my dorm mates could hit such a tiny blurry speck with their grenade launchers.

Never had that problem with Mariokart 64, at least emulation allows high resolution when playing old N64 games like Cruis'n USA or Castlevania.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:41 PM
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28. PS3's high power consumption will add to global warming
The PS3 power supply is 380 watts, which is higher than most personal computers.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:06 PM
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42. What's with the grudge?
You realize you've been made into a bit of a sucker by the marketeers, right?
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 04:53 PM
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85. No grudge
Just pointing out there's a down side to his proposal.

It's called full disclosure.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:14 PM
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50. I hear it's hewn from the bones of aborted babies, too.
:eyes:
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:15 PM
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51. Aborted chocobos actually...
Hey, Sony had a surplus.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:16 PM
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52. Well, it takes a lot of breeding to get a golden one.
Makes sense.
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 04:55 PM
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86. It's actually powered by embryonic stem cells from the aborted fetuses
:shrug:
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BluePatriot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 02:42 PM
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29. I like the Wii!
:popcorn:

Just kidding.

Is there a patch for the Xbox 360, too? We don't have a PS3 right now.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 03:57 PM
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76. Don't forget to join DU's team.
Edited on Thu Mar-22-07 04:02 PM by alfredo
See the link below
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SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 05:44 PM
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87. Thanks I joined!
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Mar-22-07 09:07 PM
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88. thank you.
From time to time someone will put up a Folding@home thread. If you do, PM me and I will do my best to keep it kicked.
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