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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 02:55 AM
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Apparently universal health care HAS arrived
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 03:01 AM by SoCalDem
In Rwanda & Uganda & Zambia....


this article is from 2007, but here's a more recent one from 9/08..with an update on how they are doing
http://www.thestar.com/News/GlobalVoices/article/507998

http://www.blackcommentator.com/246/246_healthcare_here_rwanda_ruxin_guest.html

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Several years ago, the Government of Rwanda, with United States government support, piloted a system called “health mutuelle” that is essentially a community-based health insurance program. Pay $2 per year per person for mutuelle plus a co-payment — an insurmountable cost for many families — and you receive subsidized care. However, that subsidy is often not enough. I recently met a woman who was told in advance that she would need a Cesarean section at a local hospital but who simply did not have the funds to cover the 10 percent co-payment of roughly $5. She spent days canvassing friends and relatives to loan her the money, ended up with four IOUs, and had the surgery. The average co-pay in Rwanda is about 40 cents, but in a country where most make just a few dollars each month, that can be enough to keep a sick person from seeking care. You might ask: why in the world does a poor country like Rwanda insist on payments in the first place?

These regressive public health approaches emanate from IMF and World Bank mandates handed down in the 1970s as a reaction to rising health care costs, as well as a group of policies for community financing promoted in 1987 and called the Bamako Initiative.

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The Millennium Villages project supports a Rwandan-managed health center in Mayange where — due to extreme poverty — co-pays are not required and the health mutuelle premium is subsidized (Paul Farmer and Partners and Health have recently adopted a similar approach alluded to in Forbes last week). The results have been impressive: nearly 100 percent of community members have health mutuelle and consider health care their right. Utilization rates have increased dramatically but staff report that they have not seen a single case of abuse.

Government of Rwanda is tracking the pilot closely to help determine how to balance subsidies for the poor against payments by wealthier Rwandans. It’s a challenging situation with great resonance in the United States, where the city of San Francisco just announced a plan to cover all of its citizens through a combination of free and sliding-scale payments.

Hope is emerging in Rwanda and across Africa. In Uganda and Zambia, co-payments are gone, replaced by universal health care; the effect has been immediate and dramatic. Calls to do the same have emerged in Sierra Leone. While many services still require co-pays and health insurance, the Rwandan Government has made treatment for AIDS utterly free and is looking at ways to cover payments for the poor, while avoiding a culture of dependency.
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area51 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 03:53 AM
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1. k&r (n/t)
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 03:57 AM
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2. I wonder what other conditions are placed on health care?
Like say for women's reproductive health? Are there any religious requirements?

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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:07 AM
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3. This is monstrous.
:grr:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:21 AM
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4. Devaluation of currency, the hidden tax imposed by the IMF
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 11:23 AM by formercia
The population has to pay more for imported goods, thus the cost goes up for everyone.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=4753758&mesg_id=4753758

This ends up as a windfall for the Multinational Corporations.
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Naturyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:47 AM
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5. Co-pays are largely the result of misguided ideology
Co-pays are presented as a cost-saving measure, but in reality I think they have more to do with right-wing ideas about "fairness." As we all know, "handouts" are never acceptable to a large percentage of any population (unless they go to the filthy rich). Co-pays prevent the appearance of handouts.
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:57 AM
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6. Co-pays prevent the poor from abusing the system.
You can't have them going to the doctor for minor aches and pains without imposing a penalty.

Class Warfare at its finest.
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 04:22 PM
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7. and yet, in their study, when copays were eliminated
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 04:23 PM by SoCalDem
they found no abuse..

Years ago our union plan had no copay, and we did not go to the doctor any more often.

People just don;t get up in the morning and say "Hey, since I've got nothing to do today, and I've got no co-pay, I think I'll just go hang out at the doctor's office"..People go to the doctor when they are SICK..
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:47 PM
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8. I was just trying to be sarcastic
If any country could afford single-payer health care, the US should. Thanks to the Chamber of Commerce and other anti-worker groups, it will take an amendment to the Constitution to guarantee health care for all.
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