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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:30 AM
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The Iraq War Is Now Illegal
http://www.alternet.org/waroniraq/116898/

Ongoing combat in Iraq is illegal under US law. As of January 1, Congress' authorization of the war expired.

The Bush administration's infatuation with presidential power has finally pushed the country over a constitutional precipice. As of New Year's Day, ongoing combat in Iraq is illegal under US law.

In authorizing an invasion in 2002, Congress did not give President Bush a blank check. It explicitly limited the use of force to two purposes: to “defend the national security of the US from the threat posed by Iraq” and “enforce all relevant UN Security Council resolutions.”

Five years after the fall of Saddam Hussein, the government of Iraq no longer poses a threat. Our continuing intervention has been based on the second clause of Congress' grant of war-making power. Coalition troops have been acting under a series of Security Council resolutions authorizing the continuing occupation of Iraq. But this year, Bush allowed the UN mandate to expire on December 31 without requesting a renewal. At precisely one second after midnight, Congress' authorization of the war expired along with this mandate.

Bush is trying to fill the legal vacuum with the new Status of Forces Agreement (SOFA) he signed with the Iraqis. But the president's agreement is unconstitutional, since it lacks the approval of Congress. Bush even refused to allow Congress access to the terms of the deal. By contrast, Prime Minister al-Maliki followed his constitution and submitted the agreement for parliamentary approval. While the Iraqi parliament debated its terms, leading members of Congress were obliged to obtain unofficial English translations of texts published by the Arab press.


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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:31 AM
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1. as far as I am concerned its always been illegal nt
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:34 AM
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2. It has been de facto illegal. Now it is illegal du jure. . . .n/t
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:39 AM
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7. I will have the soupe du jour. nm
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:57 PM
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23. I hope it's Onion - I love onion soup...
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:43 AM
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27. What does onion soup have to do with the illegal Iraqi War? Ah yes onion soupe
with french bread to dip.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:36 AM
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4. exactly
it was an illegal invasion from day one.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:34 AM
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3. But see, we're not engaged in combat. We're there as a stabilizing and peace-keeping force.
And Oceania has always been at war with Eurasia.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:36 AM
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5. Didn't bush** declare the war over on an aircraft carrier a few years back?
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:38 AM
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6. nonono... That was "major combat operations"
not the war duh
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:17 PM
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12. So, How Do We Define "Major"
Cuz, there's still people getting shot at and blown up. If i was one of those getting shot at or near explosions, i'd still be confused into believing it was major.

Know what i mean?
GAC
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 01:07 PM
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13. Oh. I get my war phases all mixed up.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:39 AM
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8. How do you declare a non-war over? nm
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mike_c Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:49 AM
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9. it has ALWAYS been an illegal war of aggression....
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 11:50 AM by mike_c
Remember, the German legislature provided legal coverage for Hitler's aggression in the 1930s. That had ZERO credibility at Nuremberg. No country's legislature has the authority to legalize war crimes or genocide, or at least that authority has no international standing. The IWR has always been a worthless document with no other purpose than to attempt to legitimatize a criminal war of aggression. It is one of the most shameful pieces of legislation the U.S. Congress has ever passed.
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:52 AM
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10. Congress will be right on this, I'm sure
Along with the mainstream media.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:16 PM
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11. heh. and Im the Queen of England nt
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DavidDvorkin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 01:32 PM
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14. :)
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:27 AM
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26. Wow, the Queen of England blogs on DU. Kool man. nm
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 01:33 PM
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15. What war? War was never declared. The same thing happened during
Vietnam. :dem:
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:58 PM
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22. Thanks. I love it when people remember this little detail.
I especially hate it when they call it a war, on the "news".
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BuyingThyme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 01:33 PM
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16. Oh my goodness.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 04:21 PM
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17. the Iraq war has been illegal from Day 1 . . .
and immoral . . . and unethical . . . and just plain stupid . . .
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:20 PM
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18. And like all the other illegal activity from this Administration it will go unchallenged
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:35 PM
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19. IMPEACH The Bastard!
It is STILL not too late to impeach both Bush and Cheney for their on-going uuar crimes!

Congress MUST have this as its first order of business -- and it MUST be put on a very fast track.

This illegal and immoral and totally unnecessary (except for oil profiteers!) uuar has been uuage by Bush and Cheney and they both MUST be held accountable for their terrible crimes!

They MUST not be allouued to leave office uuithout being impeached!

IMPEACH THE BASTARDS -- NOW!

Note: In protest of the continuing occupation of OUR Uuhite House by the illegal and totally corrupt Bush/Cheney regime of thugs and cronies, I REFUSE to use the letter betuueen "V" and "X". Instead, I use a "double u", as in Uuhite House".
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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:35 PM
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20. IMPEACH The Bastard!
It is STILL not too late to impeach both Bush and Cheney for their on-going uuar crimes!

Congress MUST have this as its first order of business -- and it MUST be put on a very fast track.

This illegal and immoral and totally unnecessary (except for oil profiteers!) uuar has been uuage by Bush and Cheney and they both MUST be held accountable for their terrible crimes!

They MUST not be allouued to leave office uuithout being impeached!

IMPEACH THE BASTARDS -- NOW!

Note: In protest of the continuing occupation of OUR Uuhite House by the illegal and totally corrupt Bush/Cheney regime of thugs and cronies, I REFUSE to use the letter betuueen "V" and "X". Instead, I use a "double u", as in Uuhite House".
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Lydia Leftcoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:36 PM
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21. It always WAS illegal according to international law and the Nuremberg Principles
Remember that the Nazis were condemned for "waging aggressive war."
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:08 PM
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24. Right. The Iraq War has ALWAYS been illegal.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:10 PM
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25. It has always been illegal
Have the invaders and occupiers left yet?
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