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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:44 PM
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FBI E-Mail (Obtained By ACLU) PROVES - IT WAS BUSH - Who Authorized Abuse of Iraqi Detainees
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 07:06 PM by kpete
here it is read it & weep - UNREFUTABLE PROOF BUSH IS A WAR CRIMINAL!!!
http://www.aclu.org/torturefoia/released/FBI.121504.4940_4941.pdf

FBI E-Mail Says Bush Authorized Abuse of Iraqi Detainees
Written by Jason Leopold
Friday, 02 January 2009 15:04

An e-mail written by a senior FBI agent in Iraq in 2004 specifically stated that President George W. Bush had signed an Executive Order approving the use of military dogs, sleep deprivation and other tactics to intimidate Iraqi detainees.

The FBI e-mail--dated May 22, 2004 http://www.aclu.org/torturefoia/released/FBI.121504.4940_4941.pdf
--followed disclosures about abuse of Iraqi detainees at Abu Ghraib prison and sought guidance on whether FBI agents in Iraq were obligated to report the U.S. military’s harsh interrogation of inmates when that treatment violated FBI standards but fit within the guidelines of a presidential Executive Order.

The FBI e-mail was obtained by the American Civil Liberties Union through a Freedom of Information Act lawsuit. The White House had emphatically denied that any such presidential Executive Order existed, calling the unnamed FBI official who wrote the e-mail “mistaken.”

The ACLU has called on Congress to demand that a special prosecutor be appointed to investigate whether the President and other officials broke federal and international laws, “including the War Crimes Act, the federal Anti-Torture Act, and federal assault laws.”

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more at:
http://pubrecord.org/nationworld/595-fbi-e-mail-says-bush-authorized-abuse-of-iraqi-detainees.html
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BlueCollar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 06:50 PM
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1. This is where the rubber meets the road
Let's see if Pelosi et al are ready to excercise their mandate.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:06 PM
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2. I share your frustration.
Despite the fact there's only a couple weeks left, we should still push for impeachment. Kucinich needs to renew his call at the start of the 111th Congress on the 6th and introduce new articles. Whether we succeed or not isn't the point. What matters is that we stood up for the principles the nation was founded on.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:19 PM
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4. Rubber meets the Road ?
Pelosi is driving the get-away car.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:08 PM
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3. bu$h* could go on teevee and show his personal torture videos and nothing would happen
sorry, i'm just cynical as hell when it comes to justice for these fuckers
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:25 PM
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6. Thats ok I'll pick up the slack
rome wasn't built in one day and neither will prosecuting these thugs be. It'll take time but its coming.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:36 PM
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21. Don't apologize, The older I get, the more I see and the more
cynical I become about everything.
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:59 PM
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32. sadly..I agree
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:20 PM
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5. Nancy Pelosi is on it!!
sending him a stern letter as we speak.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:29 PM
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7. Well shit, what's there to worry about then?
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:28 PM
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10. She'll most likely say it's off the table
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 05:57 PM
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27. A "stern" letter? Great! We can start a pool on when she issues an apology for it
I'm in for 5 bucks---I'll take, um, 8 hours later...
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:20 PM
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8. K&R
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:25 PM
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9. It would be great
If anything ever came out of this
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Wilms Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:55 PM
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11. .
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tavalon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:40 AM
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12. tavalon's email says "duh!"
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:44 AM
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13. Like it will matter.
Nothing's going to happen to these guys. They'll go on to their designer mansions, six-figure speaking engagements, ribbon cuttings. That's just the way things are.
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Bozvotros Donating Member (394 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:16 AM
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14. Typical MSM headline...."abuse" rather than "torture."
With the Giggling Murderer at 18% and sinking, they still can't call it what it is.
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Baby Snooks Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:02 AM
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15. Not the only war criminal....
Everyone who approved the resolutions allowing the invasion and occupation of both Afghanistan and Iraq is a war criminal as well.

As I recall Hillary Clinton said she didn't really read all the intelligence provided to her. She like everyone else in Congress simply wanted to look patriotic. Wave the flag and drop the bombs.

The blood of millions is on their hands as well. We are a shameful nation. And a falling empire.

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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:14 AM
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16. Well, so what? Did anyone think otherwise? And they repercussions
for these criminals will be?

Oh yeah, nothing. I forgot. This is Amurika! The land where all the rules of civilized behavior can be thrown out the window. The land where the rich can steal everything regardless of whether its nailed dow or not, and the middle classes and the poor will support whatever their 'betters' do with their tax dollars and the lives of their children.

Obama will hold no hearings, no one will ever pay.
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:00 PM
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17. Hopefully this will lead to the executive order itself.
So far the email says it exists but the WH denies it. I'd say a special prosecutor is definitely in order. There is no reason for the FBI agent to lie but there IS reason for the WH to lie. Therefore, it's not a giant leap to conclude that the executive order exists. Will Congress want to pursue this? Hopefully so.
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sueh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:21 PM
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18. Spot on, JenniferZ...
finding the executive order, IMHO, would be the final piece of the puzzle.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:56 PM
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23. Links to all Bush Exec. Orders:
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susu369 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:09 PM
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19. K & R
:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:13 PM
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20. K&R. Prosecute the bastards.
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tclambert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 01:59 PM
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22. I'd like to see a massive round of de-classification from the Obama admin as well
De-classify all the stuff that was improperly classified top secret national security only because it was embarrassing to President Bush. Political embarrassment is not a valid reason for classifying documents.

As they used to say in the '60s, "Let the sun shine in."
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Broadslidin Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 03:00 PM
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24. That's right, the gigglin' sounds coming from the "Prairie Chapel", their getting Louder ....!
Edited on Sun Jan-04-09 03:01 PM by Broadslidin
:nuke: :beer: :nuke:
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L. Coyote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 04:26 PM
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25. Maybe we should not allow people to steal elections????
D'OH!!
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Torn_Scorned_Ignored Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 04:35 PM
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26. January 10th - from the email...
The FBI email states the investigation into the abuse started before we got there (January 10)...

I believe that means the investigation began January 10. This date could be the same as the one of that mysteriously disappeared CENTCOM Briefing where the General, Kimmit possibly, reported there were allegations of abuse at abu Ghraib prison..."there may be photographs".

Of course there is an executive order otherwise why would that briefing, I saw it on CNN that very day, be down the memory hole. Bush Never thought this would see the light of day.

...+... connecting the dots. :hi:
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nankerphelge Donating Member (995 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:12 PM
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28. Is it time for him to be sent to prison yet?
I'm too jaded to pay attention until then.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:15 PM
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29. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, kpete.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:17 PM
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30. "It's all Bill Clinton's fault. Smirk." - Commander AWOL (R)
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:23 PM
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31. If he doesn't pardon himself
jury is still out on whether he can do that. He must be prosecuted.
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