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Th1onein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:19 AM
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Do you think that the Israelis
are attacking now, instead of later, because they know it won't be so acceptable when Bush has left office?
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Jane Austin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:22 AM
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1. I do think that. . . . . . n/t
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lostnotforgotten Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:24 AM
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2. I Think This Is Quite Plausible Since Obama Will Probably Begin Where Clinton Ended
That is, we will have peace talks and a resolution to his ongoing bloodshed.
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Loudmxr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 03:45 AM
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5. I agree this was a political strike to get votes in the up coming election.
With Bush in office they had a free hand in military action. This will play well in Israel. Get votes for Barak and Livini. If Obama was in they would have a harder time. :smoke:
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Alamuti Lotus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:24 AM
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3. No -- they know little will change in three weeks
Edited on Sun Jan-04-09 02:25 AM by Alamuti Lotus
They do, however, have an election of their own coming up. Before launching their assault, Livni (representing Kadima Party) and Barak (representing Labor) were floundering in the polls and were likely to lose to Netanyahoo (Likud). However, their sail is flying very high at the moment.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 02:26 AM
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4. Let's just put it this way: Yes. The U.S.'s veto is the only thing, the ONLY thing, which has...
...slowed down the staggering number of U.N. resolutions against various (usually hawkish) governments of Israel. They know or suspect that an Obama administration will not be an unquestioning rubber stamp to Israeli military activity.

  Few really think that Israel does not have the right to defend herself. It's how Israel chooses to "defend" itself that is the heart of this matter.

PB
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B o d i Donating Member (543 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 04:20 AM
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6. duh?
I thought it was obvious...
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 12:45 PM
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19. Not to everyone, it would seem sometimes.
PB
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izzie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 04:22 AM
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7. I think this type stuff is used to get votes
Every country seems to do it at times. I think as long as we keep the money going for the war business of Israel to keep going we will have these wars. Obama will be better at trying to make it stop than Bush but I do not think he can stop giving them war money. After all we also give weapons to SA etc. and the weapon business must keep moving for the people in Congress to stay in business. Most West country are in this war building business. :dilemma:
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NYVet Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:45 AM
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8. It may be that they are getting tired of seeing the rocket's red glare
from Hamas firing on them.

That's just my guess.
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Behind the Aegis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:47 AM
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9. So true.
But then again, Israel is supposed to be the "bigger" nation and just lay back and take it. Well, at least that is what I have read from some "progressives."
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StudsT Donating Member (310 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 06:47 AM
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10. do you think the palestinians may be getting tired of the decades old apartheid?
that'd be my guess.

StudsT
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NYVet Donating Member (822 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:09 AM
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16. Then they should be getting pissed at Jordan, Syria, and Lebanon
for keeping them in the "temporary" refugee camps for 60 years after the Arabs failed to destroy the nation of Israel in 1948.

Remember, Israel sat down and tried to negotiate for peace with Arafat and he told them to pound sand.

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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:11 AM
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18. The Israeli Right aided Hamas to counter the PLO....
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NaturalHigh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 07:54 AM
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11. That crossed my mind too.
If someone were constantly firing rockets near where I live, I would get tired of it pretty quickly too, even if they couldn't hit the broad side of a barn.
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GoesTo11 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:05 AM
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12. Maybe this works well for Obama too
Once Hamas is weakened, Obama has a better chance to work on peace but he can lay this all on Bush.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:47 AM
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13. of course....obama will have a 'thoughtful' response
bu$h* loves blood
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Junkdrawer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:50 AM
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14. This "Administration Eclipse" only happens every 4 to 8 years, I worry Iran...
may be the next on the list.

And there are sooo many ways of escalating this into an Iranian confrontation.
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THUNDER HANDS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:58 AM
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15. partly
and partly because of Israeli elections coming up. They could have done this any time in the past or could do it after Obama gets into office after talking it over with him.

But apparently they wanted the two-fer of flattening Gaza before Obama could say no and time it just enough to that it sinnks in with the Iraeli voting public.
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alcibiades_mystery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:11 AM
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17. It is cynical chest-thumping for domestic electoral purposes
That massacring Palestinians seems to win large numbers of Israeli votes is itself the disturbing social fact.
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