Never forget what Norm Coleman said.

[Pokey Anderson]

Never forget what Norm Coleman said, ten days after the Wellstone crash.

At minimum, he gets the Insensitivity Award of the Decade.

At mimimum.

Pokey Anderson

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Plane Crash killing Paul Wellstone and 2 members of his family, October 25, 2002:

"There was evidence of an intense post-crash fire," Carmody said. ``The fuselage

was destroyed. The cockpit was gone. The left wing was badly burned. The right wing was severely damaged, and the tail was two-thirds intact."

Star Tribune http://www.startribune.com/stories/1752/3391129.html

"It looks like a tremendous fire pit," said Kevin Smith, a spokesman for the Minnesota Department of Public Safety.

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Norm Coleman, the White House’s chosen candidate for the Minnesota Senate seat against incumbent Paul Wellstone, speaking ten days after the fiery crash of Wellstone’s plane:

“I win on Tuesday, the president's going to owe me big time, OK? This is not an easy task. We walked through fire to get here. The vice president* understands that, he's been involved in this process. I get through this, the people of Minnesota put me in office, the good Lord willing, I will go to the president and it will be clear, we have walked through fire, but I will deliver for the people who I represent, as I always have in my public career.”

November 4, 2002, CNN, http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0211/04/se.01.html

{* NOTE: It is not entirely clear, but throughout the debate with Mondale here, Coleman refers to Mondale as “the vice president” -- so the VP reference here may be to Mondale, rather than to the sitting Vice President Dick Cheney.}

[lonestarnot]

1. So he has an advance preview. I've always like how they hold up admissions in front of our faces.

Like they are certain nothing will ever be done to them.

[jobycom]

3. Could you explain that? Are you saying he was claiming advance knowledge of the crash?

I don't see it in that statement. :shrug:

[Pokey Anderson]

4. I'm not claiming anything.

Except that a person with normal human emotions and empathy would not say a thing like that... ten days AFTER a crash that killed his political opponent, an honorable man even if one disagreed with him, and two members of his family.

Separately, after a lot of research, I do believe there was no normal reason (not weather, not pilot error, not mechanical problem) the Wellstone plane went down. But, no matter what one believes about why the plane crashed, Norm Coleman's statement is remarkable for its insensitivity.

[jobycom]

8. I wasn't asking about your post, I was asking about lonestarnot's post.

He seems to be claiming that Coleman said something that implied advanced knowledge of something, and I can't figure out what he meant.

[lonestarnot]

10. No, advanced knowledge of hell.

:evilgrin:

[peacetalksforall]

2. Your note is duly registered and I appreciate your caution, but I believe

he means Cheney.

"{* NOTE: It is not entirely clear, but throughout the debate with Mondale here, Coleman refers to Mondale as “the vice president” -- so the VP reference here may be to Mondale, rather than to the sitting Vice President Dick Cheney.}"

I never read the quote you provide above (starting with "I win on Tuesday..."

I can't believe anyone would be so mouthy and unlucky to phrase things the way he does.

I really hope he fades away - becomes a hidden lobbyist - most of them operate in secret to the nation until they take a seat at a Congressional hearing. Maybe he can get legal work helping to defend the Abramoff indictments to come.

May the fellow learn more than his kind of networking some day.

[Turbineguy]

5. Ace Ventura moment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUxQni-gSnk

[Tutonic]

6. He smeared Mondale during that race. I hope that when he finally

gets indicted, convicted, sentenced and incarcerated that he meets my friend Karma--she's been stalking him.

[Fleshdancer]

7. The quote that I couldn't forgive him for:

"To be very blunt and God watch over Paul's soul, I am a 99 percent improvement over Paul Wellstone," Coleman said in a front-page story published in Roll Call. "Just about on every issue."

:grr:

[Pokey Anderson]

9. And, that brings to mind a quote....

Thomas Brackett Reed (1839-1902), referring to two of his colleagues in the US House of Representatives:

"They never open their mouths without subtracting from the sum of human knowledge."

[myrna minx]

13. As a Minnesotan, that actually made me throw up when he said that. It really did.

I can't wait to have Coleman tossed out on his ass. I, along with most MN women who have met his lecherous self, will not miss him.

[Odin2005]

14. Carpetbagger Normie needs to back to New York.

The man is a disgusting opportunist who was a Dem until it became more convenient to be a Puke.

[Fleshdancer]

15. I was living in Minneapolis when he made that statement

We lost a great man who was replaced by someone who embodies everything that is wrong with politics. I went ballistic when Coleman had the audacity to say what he did and I wrote him a nasty letter in response. Just thinking about it now makes my blood boil.

[Odin2005]

11. I will never forgive them for the ruckus they made over Wellstone's "partisan" memomrial service.

And that asshole Ventura went along with it. :grr:

[natrat]

12. and the service was not very nice thanks to the lovely dlc types who organized it,sorry

what a major zoo in what should have something quiet and reflective and america saw that zoo from the front row

[JNelson6563]

16. Yes, if only they'd've lowered their voices

and maybe put some pearls on.


Maybe I saw a different memorial but most of it was family members of all who were killed in the crash talking about the loved one they represented.

Many of us are certain this was a whack job and were deeply saddened as well as furious. Damn if only we would've just hit up pickles for some of her xanax, put some pearls on and minded our places it would've been so much better.

Julie--always sad to see corporate media talking points regurgitated on DU

[camera obscura]

17. And just to bring it full circle... Franken debunked their spin in "Lies and the Lying Liars..."

He showed how it was the rightwingers who took advantage of the funeral service for their own purposes.