Democrats Do Not Support a Cease Fire in Gaza - regurgitate reThug rationale

[StudsT]

Just heard Senator Evan Bayh on teeVee say that he also does not support a cease-fire in Gaza spewing the same bush admin nonsense of having a long term solution in place first... all with a smile on his face.

That is some pretty scary stuff to see these suits on my teeVee speak so charmingly about mass murder... gave me the chills and reminded me of the infamous Secretary of State Madeleine Albright quote about the that a half million children have died due to our sanctions on Iraq and whether or not she thought the price was worth it and she calmly responded "We Think the Price Is Worth It" :puke:

and so it goes...

Is it worth it?

StudsT

[DJ13]

1. A$I$P$A$C

[mike_c]

2. bingo....

The greedy rat bastards will sell anyone out for murder-- as long as they're kept fat, rich, and comfortable.

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[spanone]

4. both parties are complicit in their silence/support...

[StudsT]

5. did you hear that Obama finally deigned to say something on the crisis? (LINK)

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x3675445

StudsT

[StudsT]

6. The Outline for Peace - Bernard Weiner

The Outline for Peace - Bernard Weiner

It's been clear for decades what the outlines of a just peace might look like and what each side would have to do to get there:

1. Both sides would have to abandon the "I'm the true victim" and "you started it" loops. Each side has some history on its side, each side has behaved abominably, each side has some justice in its arguments. Both sides would have to stipulate, so to speak, to these recognitions and vow not to get bogged down in whose claim is the more righteous but stick to how to make living together in the same region workable and mutually beneficial.
   
   
2. Israel would have to return to its pre-1967 borders, fully end its occupation and control of the West Bank and Gaza, abandon its settlements on Palestinian land and make sure no new ones are allowed to intrude into the new viable Palestine state, which Israel would officially recognize. (In terms of Gaza and the West Bank, Israel would cease its ruthless policy of "a hundred eyes for an eye" overkill, and constant humiliation of the Palestinians by engaging in way-over-the-top violence that constantly reminds them of their utter powerlessness.
   
   
3. The Palestinians (both Hamas and the Palestinian Authority or, better yet, Hamas inside the Palestinian Authority) would have to officially recognize the de facto State of Israel and its right to exist within secure borders. No more rockets, no more suicide bombers inside Israel, no more calling for Israel's destruction, etc.
   
   
4. Realizing that there are crazy fanatics on each side, acting out of religious zealotry or ultranationalist urgings, both sides would have to agree to crack down on those extremists and not let occasional militant violence interfere with the peace process as it unfolds and in living together after the peace treaty has been signed.
   
   
5. Jerusalem, prized for historical and religious reasons by both sides (and by Christians as well), would become an international city, administered by the U.N. and/or a tri-religious civic council agreed to by all.
   
   
6. If Israel will not permit the "right of return" of Palestinians forced off their lands by the original establishment of the Jewish state or by the Separation Wall, they will pay fair compensation for the land. Perhaps Arab nations separately and the Arab League collectively can aid in this regard as well.
   
   
7. Treaties would be worked out regarding the travel rights of Palestinian workers inside Israel, the fair allocation of precious water resources, sharing technological developments, etc.
   

much more...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x414139

pretty good idea for progress there, imho.

:hi:

StudsT

[EFerrari]

7. I thought there was a Rasmussen poll that had Democrats against this operation

by 24%? :shrug:

[StudsT]

8. that was the voters not the leaders

i believe.

it is really hard to listen to these folks regurgitate the bush admin line :cry:

StudsT

[StudsT]

9. Rachel Maddow just had another Dem Senator on who repeated their support for the bush policy

:puke:

Will there be real change on this issue when Obama comes to power?

I sure hope so!

StudsT