Anybody wondering when Lou Dobbs changes the name of his show to the "Wetback Report"?

[republicansarewhores]

I mean, that's essentially what it is every night, isn't it? Illegal immigration this, illegal immigration that, blah blah blah...

This guy is beginning to spread xenophobia to a larger audience than Limbaugh...

RAW

[Xipe Totec]

1. He better hurry

with the Rio Grande drying up, and not reaching the Gulf of Mexico, sometimes several years in a row, Wetback may become an obsolete pejorative.

[Ilsa]

2. He's a hatin' Bill Gates these days too. nt

[ixion]

8. well, THAT, I can understand

:evilgrin:

I'm not fond of the little bastard, either.

[Kikosexy2]

3. Obviously...

Dobbs has a cheesey (smegma)foreskin fetish...better yet, just call him a major Taco Queen...

[Pawel K]

4. That's a little uncalled for.

I completely disagree with him on his immigration policy. However, I do respect the guy because it seems to me at least from what I have seen of the show when he says something he actually believes in it instead of just going where ever the wind blows. He was virtually the only one reporting about election fraud and the problem with evoting machines, he stands up to big corporations, and he doesn't seem too happy with the republicans right now. But yes, it has gotten to the point where it makes it virtually impossible for me to watch him sine all you have been hearing about lately is immigration this, mexicans that.

[Kikosexy2]

5. NOT REALLY...

ESPECIALLY IF YOU'RE AMERICAN OF MEXICAN DESCENT

[windy252]

6. Slight correction

Keith Olbermann was also reporting on election fraud and problems with e-voting machines, at least right after the 2004 "election."

[EFerrari]

7. No, he's full of it and he knows it. nt

[Pawel K]

9. What has he been inconsistent on?

[EFerrari]

10. In particular, I remember him discussing with a straight face

how undocumented workers were bringing malaria and other kinds of pestilence into "America".

It was your standard racist trash. This Latina just tried not to listen to his spew after that. It was too nauseating. :shrug:

[Pawel K]

12. Maleria is a pretty serious problem

especially in central america including Mexico:

http://www.cdc.gov/travel/regionalmalaria/camerica.htm

I don't see how pointing that out is racist. :shrug: Is it bullshit, maybe. Maleria is not common along the US/Mexico border; however, I'm sure not all illegal immigrants come from border towns.

[EFerrari]

13. Well, I will let you think that over. n/t

[Pawel K]

14. I thought it over when I posted

I don't post things without thinking about them first. So please, do tell me your point.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

18. "Them mexicans gots diseases"

Textbook example of racism.

[Pawel K]

21. Are you kidding me?

Why do so many smart people around here act like such jackasses when they don't agree with someone. I'm a racist because I point out what the CDC points out, that mexico and other central american countries are prone to malaria infections? These infections don't show up for up to 7 days, enough time to come into the united stats. This disease then spreads. I'm a immigrant, a white immigrant. And guess what, they checked me for diseases too when I came into this country. But what do I know, I'm just a racist. :eyes:

:puke:

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

22. You think mosquitos are going to recognize national borders?

:nopity:

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[EFerrari]

20. Allegations of uncleanlliness and pestilence are standard racist fare.

They were made about Native Americans, and then they were made about every group of immigrants to this country.

Dobbs's allegations were baseless unless you are counting racism or nativism.

[spoony]

36. So are you saying

that there ISN'T a growing problem with diseases we'd practically wiped out like TB? And that it ISN'T related to subpar medical care in countries whose citizens interact with us as immigrants or travelers?

[EFerrari]

37. Subpar compared to our system of universal health care?

[spoony]

39. Uh, subpar as in

people do not have access to the best medical care. Which is why, in the US:

"The toll continues to be greatest among minority and foreign-born individuals, who consistently have higher rates of TB disease."

And as for Mexicans:

"In 2004, for the first time, there were more cases of TB among Hispanics than any other ethnic group."

http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/medicalnews.php?newsid=21486

You shouldn't confuse availability of care to quality. Other countries may have more universal care, but it isn't as good. I say this as a world traveler and health-obsessed reader.

[EFerrari]

40. I hear you. But are we sure that these rates are tied to ETHNICITY

and not to POVERTY?

Like the kind you find in inner cities, in Appalachia, on the Gulf Coast?

[spoony]

41. Yes, certainly

Disease is hand-in-hand with poverty. That's why Mexicans want to come here in the first place eh? I guess, though, that when you have a static population diseases can be gradually reduced even within poor areas, but immigration is dynamic so whatever health issues they bring slips into populations whose immune systems aren't ready to fight these diseases anymore, so it's a problem.

If we could get some real reform, where no one would have to sneak in or be a quasi-slave in a factory living an almost completely anonymous life, then it wouldn't be so much an issue I think. As long as they're treated as imported property by companies, things will be bad for everyone.

[EFerrari]

43. If our government would refrain from helping to steal Mexican elections

from progressives and handing them over to corporatists, we'd get somewhere. We tax poeyor people when they come here but we are largely the reason they have to come here.

[Marie26]

15. Hugo Chavez funds Hizbollah!!!

This was his lead story. I rest my case.

[Pawel K]

17. Really, I didn't see that one?

When did it air? If he did say it he is a moron.

[Marie26]

23. It was months ago

But stupidity like that makes an impression.

Oooh, here's the transcripts:

DOBBS: And the government of Hugo Chavez and Venezuela may be aiding and abetting illegal aliens and possibly radical Islamist terrorists trying to enter this country. A special report on that. ...

DOBBS: The United States is warning tonight that Venezuela is now actively fueling this nation's illegal immigration crisis. With the help of Fidel Castro's Cuba, Venezuela's counterfeit document industry could also be helping potential radical Islamist terrorists gain entry into this country. Bill Tucker reports.

BILL TUCKER, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice-over): Terrorist groups like al Qaeda, Hamas and Hezbollah may be no further away than 1,400 miles from Florida, with the front door to America open in Venezuela."

So scary!

"DOBBS: And Chavez actually expressly endorsed Islamist terrorism. He answered something the president said about extremists during 9/11 and Hezbollah and so forth. And Chavez said we're not extremists. We are just standing up to the imperialist hegemons. So this is an explicit endorsement of our deadliest enemies.


And this from Feb 1, 2007 - he just keeps going and going...

"DOBBS: And are radical Islamist terrorists trying to establish a base in Venezuela through which it might attack the United States?

New concerns tonight that radical Islamists could use Venezuela as a base in this hemisphere. U.S. officials say Hezbollah could establish a base in Venezuela as Iran forms an alliance with Venezuela's Hugo Chavez.

Christine Romans has the report.

CHRISTINE ROMANS, CNN CORRESPONDENT (voice over): Growing concerns that the close ties between Iran and Venezuela provide a new front for Hezbollah in America's back yard. A U.S. counterterrorism official says the conditions and links are there for Hezbollah to operate in Venezuela, citing Hugo Chavez's growing ties with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, a major sponsor of Hezbollah, and Venezuela's near total lack of cooperation on counterterrorism.

ROMANS: As the ties deepen between Ahmadinejad and Chavez, Chavez emerges as an anti-American hero in Hezbollah rallies in the streets of Lebanon, where his picture is proudly waived. And Hezbollah chief Hassan Nasrallah has called Chavez a great man -- Lou.

DOBBS: And U.S. policy response?

ROMANS: The U.S. is concerned. They don't see Venezuela as a central hub yet for terrorism activities in our back yard, but they say, that it is "disconcerting and dangerous" the trend we're seeing in Venezuela."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0702/01/ldt.01.html

They never have, you know, proof. Dobbs just keeps airing these "concerns" and "questions", about how Chavez just might be behind those nasty Hizbollah terrorists. Because he figures terrorists are bad, and Latin Americans are bad, and they MUST somehow be connected.

[Pawel K]

24. I take back what I said

I've watched the show on and off for the last month or so. You'd think this was Fox from the above transcript.

[Marie26]

27. No problem!

I'm always happy to make new converts for my anti-Dobbs campaign. :)

[Pawel K]

30. Just keep posting that Hezbollah transcript and I think you'll do good

It offends me that people who are allowed to talk to hundreds of thousands of people using the airwaves say stupid shit like that.

:toast:

[Ishoutandscream2]

45. Oh my freakin' God

I never liked Dobbs, but I thought he was somewhat above the normal nitwits and hairdos that occupy the MSM. But this - holy cow!! This is like Fox, or Limbaugh on a good day with plenty of oxycotin on hand.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

11. Bigotry's OK because he really believes it?

Doesn't that make it worse?

[Pawel K]

16. I don't think you could call it bigotry, stupidity would be a little more reasonable

He did many stories on how unprotected the Canada border is too.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

19. Well, OK.

And people say the KKK aren't racist, they're just defending their heritage.

Yadda yadda yadda.

[Pawel K]

26. Yes, I get it now, Lou Dobbs = KKK

Thanks for that explaination :eyes:

:sarcasm:

[Kelly Rupert]

28. He's a conservative who plays to racism.

His only real problems with "big business," when you get down to them, are:
1. They hire foreigners.
2. They ship jobs to foreigners.

He'll touch on actual issues like min. wage and healthcare from time to time, but mostly he just rails against the brown people.

[ComerPerro]

34. if you noticed, Lou didn't give a shit about voting machines

until the talk about Sequoia and Venezuela.

He doesn't care about security or hackability of voting machines if they are owned by RW, 'merkian billionaires.

[tinfoilinfor2005]

29. "Wetback Report"?

That was insulting and demeaning in the fifties, well before political correctness was in style. I guess I have to agree with George Lopez on this one..."Everything you touch in this country, from your food to your clothing to the toilets in the fancy hotels you sit on, has been touched by a Mexican first."

[UTUSN]

31. EXcellent!!1 (& welcome to DU!!1) Here's a treasury on DOBBsie

The Search link on the SPLC site for "Lou Dobbs": http://www.splcenter.org/search/s-query.html?tx0=Lou+Dobbs&op0=%2B&fl0=&ty0=w&col=splcall&ht=0&qp=&qt=&qs=&qc=&pw=100%25&la=en&qm=0&st=1&oq=&rq=0&ql=a&si=0&x=11&y=7
These doofuses (doofi?) have their Keystone Kop side, but the Brownshirts also started out with their stoopidity on display, not taken seriously.

In the links at the bottom of this, the good people of Vermont ran the ijits out of a town and the Minutemen got lost in the woods and inadvertantly became illegal aliens themselves when they stumbled across the U.S./Canadian border. They were up there (all FOUR of them) to demonstrate that they were NOT being discriminatory JUST for the SOUTHERN border (yeah, right).

Then, their doofiness continued. They were building a 10-miles fence in AZ on private property. Univision had cameras there, did the news professional gig of interviewing the token Hispanic leader of the MM (Al GARZA), and then the camera panned over to a stack of concrete mix, the bags all showing the logo, "MEZLA CONCRETO MEXICANO"!!!1 That was PRICELESS!!1

As I say, they would be funny, but...

*******QUOTE*******
http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=589

Broken Record
Lou Dobbs' daily 'Broken Borders' CNN segment has focused on immigration for years.

But there's one issue Dobbs just won't take on.

By Heidi Beirich and Mark Potok

.... For more than two years now, Dobbs has served up a populist approach to immigration on nightly segments of his newscast entitled "Broken Borders." He has relentlessly covered the issue, although hardly from a traditional news perspective -- Dobbs favors clamping down on illegal immigration, and his "reporting" never fails to make that clear. He has covered the same issues, and the same anti-immigration leaders, time after time after time. In recent months, Dobbs has run countless upbeat reports on the "citizen border patrols" that have sprung up around the country since last April's Minuteman Project, a paramilitary effort to seal the Arizona border.

But there's one thing Lou Dobbs won't do. No matter what others report about the movement, Dobbs has failed to present mounting and persistent evidence of anti-Hispanic racism in anti-immigration groups and citizen border patrols. ....


http://www.zwire.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17104568&BRD=2290&PAG=461&dept_id=569392&rfi=6

Border Patrol chief doesn’t want Minutemen near agents (Laredo, Texas)

LAREDO MORNING TIMES ^ | 08/24/2006 | MIGUEL TIMOSHENKOV

The head of the Border Patrol said Wednesday he doesn’t want members of the Minuteman Project working near his agents when they come to the Laredo area next month. The civilian group, which reports illegal immigrants to immigration authorities, is expected to start patrolling the border in the Laredo area on Sept. 11 and continue through Nov. 7.

Acting Chief Patrol Agent Reynaldo Garza of the U.S. Customs and Border Protection Laredo Sector said he can’t prevent the civilians from coming to Laredo, but said they won’t be allowed to interfere with official business. ....

Esquivel said that if U.S. citizens should have any trouble with a member of the Minuteman Project, he or she should call the sheriff’s department or other law enforcement authority.

State Rep. Richard Raymond deplored the group’s plan to come to Laredo.

“They don’t have anything to do with this community,” Raymond said. “Here, we reject the racism they practice.” ....


(Miguel Timoshenkov may be reached at [phone] or by e-mail at [e-mail])


http://iapprovethismessiah.com/2006/08/moons-paper-and-minutemen.html

Wonkette: if the Border Patrol is short handed, why not call out the Minutemen? You know, the more-bark-than-bite nationalist “movement” that, according to the ACLU and the Southern Poverty Law Center, Jerry Seper and the Washington Times largely invented out of the ether? Mind you, we’re not complaining. We’re big fans of making mountains out of molehills...

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=635

Anti-Immigration Movement

Newspapers Inflated Minuteman Numbers

, Report Finds

Moon's paper and the Minutemen

The report, "Creating the Minutemen," is based on an American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU) analysis of 581 articles and editorials printed in major U.S. newspapers between January 2005 and February 2006. The ACLU has been highly critical of the Minutemen, and ACLU volunteers closely monitored the group.

The first of those articles, "Volunteers Set to Monitor Border Crossings," by Jerry Seper of the hard-right Washington Times, reported that 240 volunteers had signed up. By early March, Seper was reporting that the number of volunteers had "more than tripled," came from every state, and included 16 pilots with aircraft.

During the last two weeks of March 2005, the media hype shifted into overdrive. Fifteen journalists reported the Minuteman Project had signed up "at least 1,000 volunteers." The Inland Valley Daily Bulletin ran a March 23, 2005, article headlined "2,000 volunteers expected for Minuteman Project."


BoingBoing MM-"Wetbacks" http://www.boingboing.net/2005/04/15/snapshots_of_volunte.html


(direct to wetback:

Boston Globe/Vermont: http://www.boston.com/news/local/vermont/articles/2005/10/16/volunteers_get_cold_reception_in_vermont?mode=PF

WashPost/Hate-State: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/30/AR2005103000822.html

Pro-MM / LoneWacko: http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/004214.html

WashPost MM-Go-Home editorial: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/11/12/AR2005111200954.html

Slave flags: http://dneiwert.blogspot.com/2005/08/minutemen-home-for-extremists_08.html


Austin councilman Go Back to MX resolution opposing MM: http://www.statesman.com/search/content/news/stories/local/12/17minutemen.html

************UNQUOTE**********

[hansberrym]

32. Why the Bush and the neocons hate Lou Dobbs ...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x20259

[ComerPerro]

33. Dobb's program flows EXACTLY like Pat Robertson's 700 Club, I noticed

Commentary from Lou (Pat), a news piece from a wannabe reporter who tries but just can't hide their bias, then cut back to Lou for lies, spin, and propaganda.

[entanglement]

35. The working class shouldn't fall for Dobbs' demagoguery

His main job is to channel rising popular anger over ever-deepening attacks on the working class by the elites into xenophobic and reactionary channels. Dobbs has scapegoated immigrants for the woes of the working class while obscuring the role played by people of HIS class - the super-wealthy, CEOs, parasitic mega-investors, war-mongers, right wing politicians and the media. This game of blaming immigrants for everything wrong under the sun is hardly new, it's been going on for a couple of centuries now.

[Rosemary2205]

38. Recommended because the title made me laugh and

I got sick of Dobb's neverending Border report a long time ago. I can respect bring pro-border control -- heck most of what Dobbs says I agreed with, but bejasus a one trick pony gets boring after awhile......

[Jamastiene]

42. Wince.

I don't have anything other than basic cable, but racial slurs make me wince.

[Vox Acerbus]

44. No you're all wrong!

It should be the "Working Class Wetback Report".

The first two words being his favorite phrase ever, as if his uptight ass is somehow in any way able to speak for the true working class.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

46. The same day that he slips into those comfortable white sheets and pointy hat.

Naah.. Lou's a "respectable" racist like those nicely dressed gentlemen in the White Citizen's Councils were.

[krkaufman]

47. Sad thing is, when you put them all together...

... it's a HUGE propaganda machine against which truth, reality and reason must fight.