My blood pressure just shot up

[Horse with no Name]

I am boiling mad!:mad:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3176692&mesg_id=3176696

[rinsd]

1. Calm down.

Get up walk away from the computer then return when that poster has been thoroughly whipped.

;-)

[Horse with no Name]

31. It's been done.

:)
And I have eaten a handful of chocolate. All is better (for now).:)

[Virginia Dare]

2. Don't let the turkeys get you down...

take a deep breath and walk around the block. DU has been inundated with tepid little trolls this week, they're easily smacked down.

[liberalhistorian]

3. I happen to agree that Edwards should not continue his campaign

and that he and his wife need to focus on her health and their family. Sorry if that doesn't pass your Democratic Purity Test.

[kestrel91316]

5. John and Elizabeth Edwards didn't ask for your opinion.

They are capable of making their own decisions without the input of old-fashioned sexists like you.

[liberalhistorian]

13. LOL, that's rich! I'm a single mother and as staunch a feminist

as you will find. I can be called a lot of things, but "old-fashioned sexist" ain't one of them. Boy, that's funny. That's the first time I've ever been called such a thing. LOL.

And, for the record, I'd say the same thing if the situation were reversed and it was Edwards who had cancer.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

18. I'm sure you're a wonderful liberal.

:spray:

[liberalhistorian]

24. So, because I don't agree with you and because I don't immediately

fall at the Edwards' feet and kiss the ground they walk on, I must not be purely liberal enough for you? I'm sorry, I thought circle-jerk groupthinks were what we bashed the freepers for. Silly me.

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

25. Oh, but you are purely liberal.

You're the most liberal person I know. Why, you're better than Jesus!

[Connie_Corleone]

26. Why attack someone who states an opinion on a discussion board?

Instead of calling her names, you could've just left it at "They are capable of making their own decisions." There's no reason for insults.

[rinsd]

6. Will you respect their decision or attack them for it?

[cali]

And I think they know

what's best for them.

[Individualist]

7. They should do what THEY feel is right,

not what others think.

[still_one]

9. what if his wife WANTS him to run, Maybe that is HER WISH, Not his

you are making some assumptions aren't you?

[kestrel91316]

12. Not surprised at all, given that you are from that bastion of liberal

thought, SOUTH DAKOTA.

Bwahahahahahaha :rofl:

[liberalhistorian]

16. I guess the fact that I'm active in the local and state Democratic

party and was active in the campaign against the abortion ban, as well as the fact that I choose to work on an Indian reservation helping those a lot worse off than me would go right over your head, wouldn't it?

BTW, I moved here from Ohio a couple of years ago, and that state ain't exactly liberal heaven, either.

[Breeze54]

22. Why not continue? My sister kept working while

undergoing treatment for the same illness, and she was diagnosed
the same day that she started her position as VP of Major Company!
She went for treatments and also went to work!
She even bought a wig, in advance, so she wouldn't lose any time!

[ljm2002]

27. Honestly, here's what's so infuriating...

...that "mistaken" story put out by politico.com put the idea into our heads that Edwards was going to put his campaign on hold. So in the few hours we waited for his presser, the expectation had been planted. Then when he says he is not doing that, people feel let down -- we were told he was going to do a noble thing, and now we are disappointed that is not what he's doing.

It's classic framing. If he had made the announcement and there had been no planting of the idea he would quit, then we'd have taken it at face value that he was continuing on after conferring with his wife.

Anyway -- you have a right to your opinion of course. I just think that all of us were manipulated on this one. I certainly thought he was going to put it on hold; however, I'm just as happy that he did not and I would not presume to judge such a personal issue in someone's life. I figure they should do what they think is right for them.

[dweller]

4. disconnect now

get out in the fresh air, you need to be centered and strong to make it into the next day.

and the next one, trust me, you'll feel better for it.
dp

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

8. Meh.

By know we should know trolls would exploit any issue.

[Nikki Stone1]

11. Yup

Nasty thing to say about such decent people.

[Suich]

10. I got chided for talking about "The Departed"

in a thread about "The Departed," in the Lounge, for Pete's sake! There is a whole lotta strange stuff going on today. I'm going to step away from my computer for awhile!

Hang in there!!!

:hi:

[MethuenProgressive]

14. Why not answer that OP's questions? Here they are:

I just don't understand why the press conference? What was it for? Why did they have to tell anyone? She didn't alert the nation in 2004 during the campaign that she had cancer, so why do it now?

Or we could just beat him to death for posting something other than "smooches & huggs".:shrug:

[liberalhistorian]

19. Because groupthink is much easier than

having to actually think about something sometimes. Sad thing is, when they do that, they're acting like the very freepers we bash for doing the same thing. Are we not permitted to think for ourselves instead of just following the herd?

[Horse with no Name]

21. Because he is a public figure

and that is what they do.
You might not believe it, but there might be someone who might decide to vote AGAINST him because of this.
If it wasn't disclosed, that would be dishonest, wouldn't it?
Why do you assume people will be sympathetic (you are certainly not) to their plight?
They have had to disclose EVERYTHING about their personal life and this is about as personal as it gets, don't you think?
She found out she had breast cancer right around election time. She had her right to privacy. You understand that with cancer, the bereavement process takes place? Especially when you are facing certain disfiguring surgery and possible death.
This is the second time around. They know what to expect. They were already on the lookout for it. In November, it was a sucker punch out of nowhere.
Now, isn't there a rock that is missing you being underneath it?

[in_cog_ni_to]

29. My question is: Why does that poster give a rats ass WHY they did a press conference?

It's NO ONE'S business but the Edwards' WHY they made the decision to tell us she is sick.

Answers to the questions:


I just don't understand why the press conference? Because MANY, MANY of John's supporters went through her breast cancer with her and she was being considerate and letting us all know it came back.

What was it for? To inform all of us who were so concerned and worried the last time she was diagnosed with cancer.

Why did they have to tell anyone? Because they respect the people who CARE about her.

She didn't alert the nation in 2004 during the campaign that she had cancer, so why do it now?

Her cancer diagnosis in 2004 came after the election. That's why.


WASHINGTON, D.C. — Elizabeth Edwards, wife of former Democratic vice presidential candidate John Edwards, was diagnosed with breast cancer the day her husband and Sen. John Kerry conceded the presidential race.

http://www.wral.com/news/local/story/1090716/

Happy now?

This kind of shit really pisses me off. The lady has just been diagnosed with cancer, wants her husband to stay in the race, chose to let their supporters know what is going on and it's no one's freakin' business WHY they chose to do this the way they did it.

[lisa58]

15. This is real life...

...from what I understand she will live with this the rest of her life. What are they supposed to do, sit around and wait to die? This is exactly the time you want to realize a life's ambition.

[AndyA]

17. It's no one else's business. Butt out, folks. Go fight fascism or do something constructive.

The Presidency is a goal of Elizabeth's as much as it is John's. If there were to be any detriment to her health, it would be that they gave up this dream because of her illness.

[in_cog_ni_to]

20. That post is sick.

I understand the spike in your blood pressure. Sheesh. People never cease to amaze me.:(

[texpatriot2004]

23. Love your sign. It's Excellent. What are they hiding? It's time they

faced the music.

[Horse with no Name]

28. It's Radfringe's work and my idea

I'm in total love with it!

[texpatriot2004]

30. Me too, love it. BTW, what are they hiding? nm

[ms liberty]

32. I can certainly see why...

That post sounded like talking points from that entertainer, Rush Limpballs.

Some people just don't get it. I've had breast cancer. At 37, I had to have a mastectomy and chemotherapy. Except for the recovery period after the mastectomy (about 3 weeks), and the once-every-three-weeks trips for chemo and reconstruction appointments, and then reconstruction surgery (a total time of about a year for all of it) I went to work every day, and worked at least 25-30 hours a week. Until after the last chemo treatment, when the chemo had me so drained of life that I couldn't get up the energy to get off the couch to go to the bathroom, and didn't care if I lived or died...that week I worked about 8 or 12 hours total, for a week or two, then I started to regain my strength and went back to a more normal schedule.

Life doesn't end when you get sick with cancer. You have to keep living. If you quit working, quit doing what you normally do, you begin to die. You have to have reasons to go on, and you have to have a life to remind you to live and breathe.

But one of the things you discover is that some people can't handle it. They don't know what to do, how to act, what to think. When they see you, they speak in a 'kind whisper': "now, how ARE you?" They act like you're already dead, but you just haven't been buried yet. They reference God's will, and prayer a lot, and they often can't look you in the eye.

They're afraid, and they think illness should be hidden. If they don't see it, it's not going to happen to them.

I admire Elizabeth and John Edwards, now more than ever before. I watched the press conference today, and what they said and how they interacted told me that SHE made the decision for his campaign to continue. SHE decided to tell the world and be open about her health. SHE isn't ashamed, and SHE isn't going to hide. SHE has a LIFE, and she's going to LIVE IT. And HE loves her, and is proud to be her husband. HE will do what SHE wants.

I will say for the record, that he's not been my first choice...I want Gore to run. But I am proud that he is from my state, that he was our Senator, and VP candidate. And I'd be proud to have him as our nominee if he wins the primaries.

[Horse with no Name]

33. I agree 100%

Thank you for your perspective.
And I think this is her decision as well.
She is lifting John up because she knows he won't let her down.
That is the spirit of true love.
Gore is my first choice as well so I am holding off on my commitment. However, I certainly made my decision today where to throw my hat if he doesn't get in the race.