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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-08-09 11:42 PM Original message |
On Obama’s Choice of Sanjay Gupta for Surgeon General |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-08-09 11:45 PM Response to Original message |
1. Great Post, Thanks! |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-08-09 11:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. What can I say? except |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:16 PM Response to Reply #2 |
81. Dennis Blair, Larry Summers |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 04:59 PM Response to Reply #81 |
110. Vilsack, Emmanuel |
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WhiteTara (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Eric Holder |
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rwheeler31 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-08-09 11:48 PM Response to Original message |
3. Educate him he is a good communicator. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-08-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Did you watch the interview on Larry King with Gupta and Moore? |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
54. Right, Fumesucker! Gupta's |
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Zodiak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 03:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
100. He is a doctor |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:57 PM Response to Reply #100 |
120. A dr. of bullshit. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #3 |
105. Your missing the point. Good communicator or not he was not telling the truth. Why? |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
122. talk is talk........We do not have time to educate...only ACT!!! Pharmaceuticals |
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Hanse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-08-09 11:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. Can you name a surgeon general who has had those additional four years of training? |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Dishonesty is trivial and silly? |
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Hanse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. Yes, it's trivial and silly. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:05 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. Healthcare is as serious as a heart attack.. |
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Hanse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Oh, absolutely. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #13 |
102. Why do you love Gupta so much? |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
20. DOesn't that imply that his nomination is also trivial and silly? |
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Hanse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:32 AM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I'd love to have honest debate. |
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MNBrewer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:37 AM Response to Reply #25 |
30. THen maybe it's up to you to start it. |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #25 |
86. here you go.. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:33 AM Response to Reply #11 |
57. It is not trivial! |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 04:30 PM Response to Reply #11 |
106. Bullshite. Obama choose Gupta. With all the excellent candidates available |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:13 AM Response to Reply #4 |
16. I don't see how you can say that Gupta's dishonest criticisms of Sicko |
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Hanse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:18 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. His criticisms of Sicko were subjective. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:23 AM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Moore shot down every single criticism of Sicko by Gupta |
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Hanse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:29 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. No, he didn't. I've seen Moore's line by line rebuttal. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:33 AM Response to Reply #23 |
26. No, Gupta agrees with Moore |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #23 |
66. Actually Moore did post an open letter... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:36 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Notice SICKO still not appearing on TVs.. and not seeing it for sale |
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angrycarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:36 AM Response to Reply #19 |
28. Gupta is a star. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #28 |
60. Beautifully said, angrycarpenter. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #28 |
85. "He is a corporate shill and the wrong man for a crucial job." |
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BlancheSplanchnik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 05:10 PM Response to Reply #28 |
112. same as a lobbyist--- Good Point! |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:38 AM Response to Reply #19 |
31. Subjective? Saying that Michael Moore fudged his facts is subjective? |
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Hanse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:44 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. Yup, subjective. One fact? How about two? |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 01:09 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Apparently you didn't understand my question |
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MannyGoldstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 07:36 AM Response to Reply #34 |
40. Facts Are Stubborn Things - John Adams |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:39 AM Response to Reply #40 |
61. Right on, Manny! Gupta a liar! |
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ImOnlySleeping (131 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 08:18 AM Response to Reply #32 |
44. keep in mind |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:41 AM Response to Reply #44 |
62. And this is the point Moore |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 08:28 AM Response to Reply #32 |
48. you're no better than the republicans that went along with Bush on every single thing he did |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:35 AM Response to Reply #19 |
58. Right, not an enemy of health care. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 02:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
94. subjective: taking place within the mind and modified by individual bias; "a subjective judgment" |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #19 |
107. Gupta's comments were not subjective. They were biased against Moore. Why? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:55 AM Response to Reply #4 |
33. Deleted message |
Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:42 AM Response to Reply #33 |
63. Stealth Republican. nt |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 07:53 AM Response to Reply #4 |
42. His status as a doctor publicly criticizing Sicko on CNN held a lot of water with many. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:43 AM Response to Reply #42 |
64. Thank you, mod mom! |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 04:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
108. Well said. nm |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:30 AM Response to Reply #4 |
56. And who wrote your talking points? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #4 |
73. Let me guess - you are employed by |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #4 |
87. Training to do what? |
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Daemonaquila (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #4 |
90. His training is a red herring. |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-08-09 11:50 PM Response to Original message |
5. K&R |
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slipslidingaway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-08-09 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
7. Thanks once again K&R n/t |
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angrycarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-08-09 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
8. I hadn't forgotten his attempted smear of moore. |
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angrycarpenter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:13 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. He should have went to Appalachia |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-08-09 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
9. Wiki has a good synapsis of the |
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mike_c (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
14. wow!-- what a great post! |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
17. K&R |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
18. Big K&R. |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:23 AM Response to Original message |
22. Another K&R |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:30 AM Response to Original message |
24. Agree. Gupta is a poor choice. I'd rather have Dr Hibbert. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:35 AM Response to Original message |
27. What a disgrace this appointment is . . . he could have had Howard Dean . . . |
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Daemonaquila (413 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #27 |
92. You HAD to point that out. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #27 |
103. Don't forget Vilsack.. |
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farmboxer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 01:26 AM Response to Original message |
35. Michael Moore is a true American hero |
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berni_mccoy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 01:27 AM Response to Original message |
36. OMG! You're Either a PUMA or an Anti-Vaccer!!!1! |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 02:18 AM Response to Original message |
37. kr |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 02:31 AM Response to Original message |
38. He's too smug. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 07:32 AM Response to Original message |
39. Fantastic post |
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mod mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
41. Excellent post as usual TFC. rec'd |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 07:57 AM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Howard has no public health education or experienceand |
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liberation (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #43 |
69. If you are referring to Howard Dean... |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:55 AM Response to Reply #41 |
68. Thank you mod mom -- Regarding Howard Dean |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 08:18 AM Response to Original message |
45. So Gupta Is a Brash Young Man In Over His Head |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 08:41 AM Response to Reply #45 |
50. He had "experts" to criticise "Sicko" and still got his criticisms wrong.. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 04:21 PM Response to Reply #45 |
104. Yeah, Just Like G.W.Bush was a successful businessman |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #45 |
113. I agree that it could be worse |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 08:20 AM Response to Original message |
46. As usual TfC, well-annotated and substantiated post. I, too, am in the |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #46 |
98. Thank you so much |
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no limit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 08:23 AM Response to Original message |
47. To be fair to Gupta he was just a whore doing what his pimps told him to do |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 08:30 AM Response to Original message |
49. Here is the NPR link where they are talking about |
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glitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 08:48 AM Response to Original message |
51. THANK YOU! Yes, I am yelling it. Once again you prove to be an eloquent voice of reason. |
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Pacifist Patriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
52. I've been under an academic rock lately. Gupta? Really?! |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
53. Just what we need, another fucking liar. |
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MrsBrady (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:30 AM Response to Original message |
55. K&R 100% |
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WillieW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:37 AM Response to Original message |
59. Gupta is an "establishment" doctor |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:59 AM Response to Reply #59 |
70. I like Dr. Oz |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:45 AM Response to Original message |
65. How can we tell Obama, we don't want this asshole? |
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K Gardner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 11:08 AM Response to Reply #65 |
76. Direct link below: |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:38 PM Response to Reply #76 |
84. Thank you. nt |
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semillama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:49 AM Response to Original message |
67. Orac had a great blog post dissecting Gupta |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 08:05 PM Response to Reply #67 |
116. Yes, his relationship with science based medicine |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
71. what do you mean? |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 10:33 AM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Medicine is divided into specialties |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 11:20 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. so you were just referring to a residency in PH |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:05 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. What do you mean by JUST referring to a residency in PH? |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. i wasn't trying to offend you |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #83 |
89. I accept that you weren't trying to offend me |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. peace. nt |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
74. K&R !! |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 04:38 PM Response to Reply #74 |
109. Exactly! I think that's what made him so repugnant to many of us. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 11:05 AM Response to Original message |
75. Tangentally related, who does the CDC report to? Surgeon General, |
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mrs_p (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 11:24 AM Response to Reply #75 |
78. cdc is under hhs |
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
80. Honestly? I Think One Of The Most Ridiculous Concepts I've Heard Is Disqualifying Someone From A |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:24 PM Response to Reply #80 |
82. It doesn't matter to you that the critique was filled with inaccurate information? |
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immoderate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 12:53 PM Response to Reply #80 |
88. What are you trying to say here? Did you read the OP? |
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LiberalLovinLug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 02:09 PM Response to Reply #80 |
93. what partisan? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #80 |
96. Where are you coming from on this? |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
95. Other question: Is Dr. Gupta actually a surgeon? |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Yes, he is a neurosurgeon |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. Thanks for the clarification. |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
101. Gupta is a Soul Sucking Preacher of the Mass Media |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 05:33 PM Response to Original message |
114. We deserve better than a talking head sock puppet for big pharma. |
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russspeakeasy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
115. Can you say Snake Oil ?????????????? |
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dougkeenan (74 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:28 PM Response to Original message |
117. Gupta is a reefer maniac also ... |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:52 PM Response to Original message |
118. GUPTA is Harry Anslinger Revived.....NO NO NO..To REEFER MADNESS |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
119. Some how...Obama and his compatriates never saw Sicko....Too bad for us. |
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Seedersandleechers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 09:58 PM Response to Original message |
121. As far as I know |
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bleever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 10:17 PM Response to Original message |
123. Being a neurosurgeon does not excuse intellectual dishonesty. |
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Time for change (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 10:41 PM Response to Reply #123 |
124. Yeah |
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Oldenuff (442 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 10:58 PM Response to Original message |
125. Good post.. |
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Richard Steele (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-09-09 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
126. 100th rec. Excellent post! nm |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:46 AM Response to Original message |
127. I just feel the need to kick this again, b/c it is vitally important |
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