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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:46 PM
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Now that Blago has been impeached ......
..... do you think this has any impact on seating Burris?
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:47 PM
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1. it could
if the State Senate convicts and removes in time.
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 05:22 PM
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10. I'm not sure.
The appointment was made at a time when Blago could legally do it, no?
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DaveinMD Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 05:47 PM
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11. it hasn't been certified
so conceivably the new Gov could rescind.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:48 PM
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2. Not just yet
But if the Senate can get rid of him within a month or so, the new Governor (D) can make a clean appointment (probably not Burris), who should not have trouble being seated.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:50 PM
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3. Burris' own words might do him in...
Change in Burris' story?
SPRINGFIELD | Appears to contradict affidavit saying he hadn't spoken to representative of gov about Senate seat

January 9, 2009

BY DAVE MCKINNEY AND JORDAN WILSON Sun-Times Staff Reporters


SPRINGFIELD -- A potentially troublesome new detail emerged about Roland Burris' controversial U.S. Senate appointment Thursday after a state House panel voted unanimously to recommend Gov. Blagojevich be impeached.

For the first time, Burris indicated that he asked Blagojevich's former chief of staff and college classmate, Lon Monk, to relay his interest in the Senate seat to the governor last July or September.

"If you're close to the governor, you know, let him know I'm certainly interested in the seat," Burris said he told Monk.

That testimony appears to differ from an affidavit Burris submitted to the impeachment panel this week in which he stated he spoke to no "representatives" of the governor about the Senate post prior to Dec. 26.

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http://www.suntimes.com/news/1369257,CST-NWS-impeach09.article
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:37 PM
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5. There's no contradiction there.
Burris' lawyer, Timothy Wright, said it was improper to consider Monk a "representative" of the governor -- the language used in Burris' affidavit -- since Monk no longer was on the state payroll when he and Burris spoke last year.

Burris "was talking to him as a friend and expressing his interest," Wright said. "He wasn't talking to him as a representative of the governor."


The Sun-Times is just stirring up shit by asking deliberately misleading questions that have obvious answers.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:49 PM
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7. Not just the Sun Times has that opinion...
why did he not tell the truth about talking to anyone connected to Blago? I guess we'll see how the Senate looks at it.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/01/08/burris-admits-he-reached_n_156421.html

Burris Admits He Reached Out To Blago Confidant Named In Criminal Complaint

January 8, 2009 05:46 PM


Inches away from securing a seat in the United States Senate, Roland Burris suffered what could be a serious setback on Thursday.

Appearing before an Illinois House impeachment committee, Burris acknowledged that he had reached out to a close friend and former chief of staff to embattled Gov. Rod Blagojevich to discuss the Senate seat. That appears to contradict Burris' statement in a sworn affidavit that he had no contact with any of the governor's "representatives." The former chief of staff, Alonzo Monk, is named as "Lobbyist 1" in the criminal complaint, and ran Blagojevich's most recent reelection campaign.

Grilled by members of the Illinois House, Burris said he brought the idea of filling Obama's Senate seat to "Lon" Monk -- whose cell phone was tapped by federal agents investigating Blagojevich's pay-to-play scheme.

Moreover, Burris testified that the meeting with Monk was to drum up state business from the lobbyist -- the image of back channel dealing that Burris has sought to avoid during his Senate roll-out.

In a sworn affidavit filed January 5, Burris stated that before he was asked by Blagojevich staff if he was interested in the Senate position, "there was not any contact between myself or any of my representatives with Governor Blagojevich or any of his representatives regarding my appointment to the United States Senate."

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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:54 PM
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8. Burris' affidavit was factually accurate on that point.
Anyone who says otherwise is just looking for an excuse to block, or fanning flames on purpose. This wouldn't be the first time that politicians deliberately misrepresented something, or the media just plain got it wrong. Unfortunately, as is so often the case, the resulting public perception may end up trumping the truth.
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kevsand Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:34 PM
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4. Not automatically, at least not in a legal sense.
The appointment has already been made. It either stands or falls on its own legally. The removal of the appointer after the fact does not affect the legal status of the appointment.

Regradless of what happens to Blago, the only way Burris' appointment fails is if the U.S. Senate rejects it, and that rejection withstands the inevitable appeal to the SCOTUS.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 01:43 PM
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6. It might depend upon the New Governor
If Blago's replacement says Burris is the man then I am sure there will be no problem. I am sure we will get a sense of that person's desire soon enough.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 02:02 PM
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9. He's still in office pending a trial
Impeachment doesn't serve to remove an official from office, it just clears the way to begin his trial. Blagojevich is still the governor of Illinois. Will it have an impact on seating Burris? Only to the extent that Harry Reid and his Senate minions want it to have an impact. From a technical, legal standpoint, there should be no effect. And it may be that Reid is tired of shooting his own foot on this matter, and will just seat Burris and let him serve for two years while the Democratic party works on finding and grooming a suitable replacement in 2010. Burris gets to carve another entry in his marble resume, and everyone should be happy.
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ShortnFiery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 05:49 PM
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12. No, Impeachment is a long drawn out process as was witnessed by the entire Country after
Bubba used poor judgement to score that blow job in the oval office. :(
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