4 year left in unheated car at night ,at 14 below while 22 year old dad 'visits' 13 year old

[Liberal_in_LA]

http://www.thedenverchannel.com/news/18343116/detail.html

Child Left In Freezing Car While Dad Visits Teen Girl
Mont. Man Also Facing Drug Charges

POSTED: 5:56 am MST December 23, 2008
UPDATED: 3:26 pm MST December 23, 2008

GREAT FALLS, Mont. -- A 22-year-old Montana man has been arrested after his 4-year-old daughter was left in a car for hours in below-zero temperatures.

Jeramey Sheeler, of Vaughn, Mont., faces a charge of criminal endangerment. Great Falls Police Lt. Jack Allen says Sheeler left his sleeping daughter in a Jeep parked on the street early Saturday while he went inside a house to visit a 13-year-old girl.

When the 4-year-old woke up, she got out of the vehicle and starting going house-to-house, knocking on doors at 2 a.m. Someone let her in and then called police. The temperature outside at the time was about 14 degrees below zero, according to the Great Falls Police Department.

Police found Sheeler at the house next door. The girl who lived there told police that she and Sheeler were in bed together, but nothing sexual happened. Police believe Sheeler left his daughter in the unheated car for about two hours.

[babylonsister]

1. Can people really be that stupid? On so many levels? nt

[tammywammy]

3. Yes

Every summer there are people that leave their children in a vehicle with the windows up.

[babylonsister]

6. You're right. Living in the land of summer breathlessness due to

the oppressive heat, that happens often, too often.

[Realityhack]

2. More charges to come I assume. What a horrible situation. Luckily the child survived.

very very sad.

[opihimoimoi]

4. WTF??....13 years old...is that a crime there??? WTF? is he Carl's son??

The guy who ran for US Senator from RI 2 years ago??

[seabeyond]

10. i was told once a girl hit puberty she was free game. that isnt how it is?

but then we were talking about 12 yr old stripper and the sweep in dallas on 12 and 13 yr old prostitutes and the market for our youth.....

so maybe when they go into the trade, that is when we look the otherway

the contradictions on du confuses me.

[Skittles]

11. "free game" ?

what kind of fucking shit is that?

[gollygee]

12. There is a group at DU that doesn't believe in "age of consent" laws

and they figure as soon as a kid hits puberty, the kid is "fair game". I've seen it too.

[Skittles]

13. disgusting

to refer to children as "fair game" :puke:

[seabeyond]

18. you do know, some girls hit puberty at 10 now a days. i pointed that out and didnt seem

to matter

ya..... :puke: that.

so if i seem to be less than tolerant on this issue, being on du as long as i have.... this would be why

[Skittles]

36. you know what, seabeyond?

either you are the most inarticulate person ever or you're just a fucking ass. Either way, I think Ignore is the way to go. BYE BYE,

[charlie]

19. WHAT?!

You've gotta be kidding.

(I know you're not kidding, I'm just gobsmacked)

[AlCzervik]

33. that's pretty sick and as much as i hate this guy---

some people could do with a sit down.

[FedUpWithIt All]

34. I have too. n/t

[seabeyond]

14. i wonder too. didnt find any guys contradicting either, on that particular thread

seemed to be a lot of justification, excusing and validation in watching a 12 yr old stripper for male pleasure and male not being responsible in anyway.

so what if a grown male is sleeping in a 13 yr old bed getting off. she is surely allowed and is her right, being a sexual person she is.

the contradiction of it being allowed and justified in some areas of our culture and then the "outrage" in other areas turns my stomach in the hypocrisy.

[Skittles]

16. it is disgusting and wrong in ANY fucking culture

[book_worm]

17. there are a lot of weirdos on the internet and we get them here too.

[seabeyond]

20. it is so comforting to just dismiss with them being "weirdos", but no....

that wasnt the case.

just men that feel dna allows them cause they have no control and after all these "girls" have boobs, and and and

what are they to do

[book_worm]

30. yep, grown men who get thrills having a 12 year old girl do a striptease are weirdos

or worse.

[seabeyond]

35. weirdo somehow lets us imagine a few, the abnormal. hence the dishonesty of it. it is not abnormal

and it is not just a few (from what i am hearing), my concern. a strip hall and not a single patron or employee (fellow strippers) felt the need to stop it.

[derby378]

23. There was a child prostitute sweep in Dallas?

Wow. If it happened within the last month, I haven't heard a thing about it. You'd think all of us would have.

That said, this looks like another case of babies having babies. Everything this goober does is wrong.

[seabeyond]

25. about 6 months ago or there in. and no, a lot of people on du purposely

dont like to "see" that kinda stuff. easier to pretend it isnt.....

if we ignore a market for our children as sex toys for grown ups, is it really there?

[mitchum]

26. It always blows my mind whenever I see that on here

[seabeyond]

27. but really, it is so much easier making a joke about a man fucking a girl.

i say, tongue in cheek

[mitchum]

28. There is a difference between the sardonic and a mere joke

[seabeyond]

29. i get it.

hence the tongue in cheek

[book_worm]

5. Where was the 13 year olds parents? What a loser this guy is.

Couldn't he have brought the four year old into the house, I'm sure she would have understood that he and the 13 year old had to go off to do "homework" in her bedroom.

[MountainLaurel]

7. Sounds like Dad's just a winner all around

:puke:

[gollygee]

8. There is so so so so so much wrong with this

that I can't even think of a place to start.

[Toucano]

9. It's a MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD World. n-t

[LisaL]

15. I presume 13 year old is living with her parents or relatives? What were they doing when

a 22 year old man went to visit her?

[seabeyond]

22. she is going to do it anyway, might as well be doing it at home where she is safe?

i dunno

not the we have a real problem with this in our society today. it is all good.

[book_worm]

31. meanwhile the loser dad leaves his four year old in a cold car

of course he's the real issue, not the 13 year old. We have to wonder though where the parent(s) were since according to this the police only interviewed the 13 year old minor.

[rucky]

21. The 4-year-old is the smartest one in the story.

Good for her to get out of the car and knock on doors.

[mitchum]

24. Maybe he was offering the 13 year old a job as a babysitter?

[ejpoeta]

32. see, if we still had dateline's to catch a predator going.....

this probably would have been on the show and the kid would be safe. ridiculous!! i mean, i will admit to times when my daughter is sleeping where I have let her sleep. BUT.... NEVER when it is cold. when i have done it has been when it is warm out. i open windows and park in a shady spot. AND.... i stay close. like say we are having a picnic or something. or I am bringing groceries in the house. never go far, and am mindful of temperature and proximity to her. I hear about people leaving their kids in the car and it boggles my mind. saddens me, frankly.