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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 06:59 PM
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A Porno Bailout?
Edited on Sat Jan-10-09 07:07 PM by marmar
Look, these Porn Industry welfare kings are going to Congress with their ****s out. :hide:



from Dollars & Sense:


Porno Industry Begs for It
by Dollars and Sense

Well, at least two of its luminaries are doing that, tongue in cheek (no pun intended),according to a report from Vienna's Die Presse (in German). Larry Flynt of Hustler and Joe Francis of the firm "Girls Go Wild" want Congress to provide the industry with a cool $5 billion. In an interview with CNN, Flynt promises a kind of hedonic multiplier effect in return, something even many academic economists who enthuse about 'happiness economics' have been so far reluctant to endorse in the present crisis: "It is time for Congress to reinvigorate America's sexual appetite, and the only way to do that is by supporting the pornography industry: and there's no time to lose!" Gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "stimulus package."


http://www.dollarsandsense.org/blog/2009/01/porno-industry-begs-for-it.html


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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 07:08 PM
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1. Great PR stunt. Got lots of coverage in all forms of media..........
Edited on Sat Jan-10-09 07:09 PM by Double T
and it didn't cost the Porn industry one dime. Let's stimulate and bailout everyone so 'we' can have one last fling before our absolute and total demise.
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 07:15 PM
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2. it amazes me why more progressives aren't outraged at the misogynistic
rape-encouraging porn "industry."
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ZombieHorde Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 07:36 PM
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3. Because most people don't see it the way you do. Most people don't judge a media form
based solely on the extremes of that media form.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 07:39 PM
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4. Not that I disagree that the industry is misogynistic...
Edited on Sat Jan-10-09 07:39 PM by varkam
exploitative and parasitic, but rape-encouraging?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 08:49 PM
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5. we have learned to shut up cause we are called all kinds of names, wink. n/t
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BoneDaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 08:54 PM
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7. Guess we look at self determination
as opposed to a victim based view of the world.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 09:07 PM
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8. Perhaps because not everyone shares your view of it
Edited on Sat Jan-10-09 09:09 PM by anigbrowl
I think it might depend on whether one believes there is such a thing as non-explitative erotica. If not, then obviously you would think all porn is bad. If so, then one might draw more complex distinctions based on both content and the consumer population.

As it happens, rape began a slow but steady decline since the 1970s, a trend which sped up (that is, it declined faster) in the 1990s. It's been postulated that this might have something to do with the accessibility of porn over the Internet:

National trends are one thing; what do the figures for the states show? From data compiled by the National Telecommunications and Information Administration in 2001, the four states with the lowest per capita access to the internet were Arkansas, Kentucky, Minnesota, and West Virginia. The four states with the highest internet access were Alaska, Colorado, New Jersey, and Washington. (I would not have guessed this.)

Next I took the figures for forcible rape compiled by police reports by the Disaster Center for the years 1980 and 2000. The following two charts display the results:

TABLE 1. STATES WITH LOWEST INTERNET ACCESS <2>
STATE Internet 2001 Rape 1980 Rape 2000
Arkansas 36.9 26.7 31.7
Kentucky 40.2 19.2 27.4
Minnesota 36.1 23.2 45.5
W. Virginia 40.7 15.8 18.3
All figures are per capita.


TABLE 2. STATES WITH HIGHEST INTERNET ACCESS <3>
STATE Internet 2001 Rape 1980 Rape 2000
Alaska 64.1 56.8 70.3
Colorado 58.5 52.5 41.2
New Jersey 61.6 30.7 16.1
Washington 60.4 52.7 46.4
All figures are per capita.

While the nationwide incidence of rape was showing a drastic decline, the incidence of rape in the four states having the least access to the internet showed an actual increase in rape over the same time period. This result was almost too clear and convincing, so to check it I compiled figures for the four states having the most access to the internet. Three out of four of these states showed declines (in New Jersey, an almost 50% decline). Alaska was an anomaly: it increased both in internet access and incidence of rape. However, the population of Alaska is less than one-tenth that of the other three states in its category. To adjust for the disparity in population, I took the combined population of the four states in each table and calculated the percentage change in the rape statistics:


TABLE 3. COMBINED PER CAPITA PERCENTAGE CHANGE IN INCIDENCE OF RAPE.
Aggregate per capita increase or decline in rape.
Four states with lowest internet access Increase in rape of 53%
Four states with highest internet access Decrease in rape of 27%

I find these results to be statistically significant beyond the .95 confidence interval.


http://jurist.law.pitt.edu/forumy/2006/06/rape-porn-and-criminality-political.php
This is not proof of anything, but it's certainly worthy of further research.

Personally speaking, I think that the porn industry is a Good Thing, insofar as openness and professionalism result in a safer environment for participants. by contrast, I think prohibition thereof increases the likelihood of exploitation.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 09:12 PM
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10. and in the last two years, when truly the reflection of net porn, (not the 80's or 90's) rape has
gone up 25%

cant find the report and not gonna look but was on here a week or two ago.

rape up last two years 25% and spousal abuse up 41 or 42%

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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 09:28 PM
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11. I haven't found the DU post you refer to...
nor any statistic showing such a rise in rape as you describe. I'm not sure what you mean by 'when truly the reflection of net porn'.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 09:33 PM
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12. i tried the search engine, .... but
i am so bad at searches, they never produce for me. prior to the change on du i at least had a chance. since the new one i havent once found what i am looking for.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 08:51 PM
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6. i want to know why people arent pissed these guys insist the only way we enjoy sex is with porn
Edited on Sat Jan-10-09 08:57 PM by seabeyond
to me that is really insulting that guys cant get it up unless they have their porn. and since porn sales are down, ergo, guys MUST not WANT sex.


i dont get why more men arent insulted by these two pigs. i know why women would be.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 09:10 PM
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9. um...because I don't take them very seriously
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