Didya see Jon Stewart dissing Gore? He lost one viewer on that one.

[loudsue]

It made me sick to watch him spewing the same right wing talking points about Gore that I've become accustomed to from his employers. They were showing Gore TRYING to speak over that idiot Infhoe during the hearings yesterday, and all Jon could come up with was that Gore used stupid analogies, and that he was fat. (Note: During the hearings, Gore was trying to talk to someone who exhibited a second-grade mentality, and he addressed him as best he could. Besides that, Gore looks fine. He looks like a man, not some Ralph Lauren model boy. There's not a damned thing wrong with how he "looks", except maybe to Hollywood pretty boys) . Jon SPEWart obviously doesn't "get it". Here's one former Daily Show fan that isn't going there anymore.

Even if it was supposed to be "all in fun" (for who, pray tell? ) , he just showed himself to be as uncool as any of the talking heads. My husband and I were just sitting there cold. None of it was funny. None of it.

I tried to keep watching, and he had a skit with some dude joking about stopping Utube from showing clips. But it wasn't funny anymore, after what he did to Gore. Just LOOKING at Stewart after that gave me the heebie-jeebies.

Did anybody else see it?

[silverojo]

1. Yes, I did

And it pissed me off, too. :mad:

[loudsue]

6. Didn't it though?

What ... where in the hell is he coming from? It just boggles the mind.

[MzNov]

2. I didn't see it, but am really really sad to hear this.

Al Gore is luminary among a bunch of burned out light bulbs. It's refreshing to hear him speak (finally, somebody intelligent), and know that he's on a mission for the entire planet. He's in a league well above Stewart and the ignorant dumbass critics on the House committes.


**Gore44**

:bounce:

[loudsue]

13. He truly is, and SPEWart was dissing him for being a prophet.

It was SUCH a turn-off.

:kick:

[baldguy]

3. Al is a big enough man to take a little ribbing.

If he wasn't he wouldn't have spent the last year introducing himself by saying "I used to be the next president of the United States."

[Rosemary2205]

61. "big enough man" -- hehehe

you was bad! :)

[madfloridian]

4. We don't watch him much lately.

He's not that funny lately.

[bilgewaterbill]

40. I feel ya. He's resting on his laurels. nt

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[loudsue]

8. Yes, I can see the mentality of someone who enjoyed watching it.

That confirms my point.

:kick:

[Rabrrrrrr]

9. Well, good luck in your perfect world.

Have fun voting for no one. I hope you don't get whiplash from changing loyalties so quickly.

[spoony]

28. Those who demand purity

will invariably wind up lonely and angry. You're at least half-way there.

[mondo joe]

110. Way to prove liberals aren't humorless!

:eyes:

[madfloridian]

30. There are levels of humor...people react different ways.

We don't think he is funny any more. He could be a biting satirist, but he goes for cheap shots that are not funny way too often now.

He has no base for his humor...he just makes fun of those who try to change and those who don't.

The really funny comedians have an agenda of some kind. He does not anymore.

[spoony]

42. Essentially you're saying

"the really funny comedians agree with me."

Seems to me people who laugh when he smacks Pugs around and call it a "cheap shot" when he has a one-liner about Gore aren't being consistent.

[madfloridian]

126. I am saying "humor" is a personal thing.

I think Colbert is funny. I think some things are funny, some things aren't.

I may not agree with what you consider humorous, but I agree that you have the right to decide for yourself.

It gets very judgmental here about comedy.

[Firepit 462]

146. Next week when Stewart gigs Bush he will be a "hero" again.

I don't think Gore cares one rats ass about a few playfull barbs, the man is not an infant, a joke is a joke.

[Fridays Child]

7. I won't abide that crap, either.

He lost more than just one viewer. :grr:

[loudsue]

10. Didn't it make you sick to try to keep watching?

I always turn to the Daily show. But lately he hasn't been that funny, I've just kept watching because I felt a sort of resonance with my beliefs, most of the time. This one just sent me over the edge. I feel the same way when I'm trying to watch Faux News... I felt totally betrayed... That yukky feeling in my stomach.

:kick:

[WiseButAngrySara]

24. "yukky feeling in my stomach" How old are you? If TDS dissed

Gore, I'm disappointed, but yukky feeling in my stomach?

[loudsue]

34. I'm in my late 50's.

And yes, it gave me a yukky feeling in my stomach to watch.

[WiseButAngrySara]

84. LOL! OK. You're honest. I guess I do have that feeling w/* ....n/t

[karynnj]

117. Did you watch the John Bolton appearance "update"

My 16 year old Tivos the show - so, I saw the followup to the Bolton appearance where Steward called Doris Kearns Goodwin to get her to back him up on his citing of Lincoln as a man who included the other party in his cabinet - which Bolton said was inaccurate. It was pretty funny.

My guess is that all humor based on current events has its ups and downs. I suspect that what you felt hearing his jokes at VP Gore's expense is similar to what I felt with his jokes at Senator Kerry's expense - like Gore, Kerry is a serious man trying to do good. Steward is harder on Republicans than Democrats - but he will use what he can for laughs. The more sincere and earnest a person is, the easier it is to mock them.

[ComerPerro]

11. as someone said about Maher, we must demand idealogical purity from our comedians, right?

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[loudsue]

19. Humor is supposed to be funny.

Your insults are as out of line as anything I've seen on DU.

[Rabrrrrrr]

23. It was funny. As is your inability to see that it was funny.

Not as funny as he usually is, but still funny.

But it seems to me that you think it's funny so long as it's the "other guy" getting satirized, but is ipso facto unfunny if it's "one of ours". I am saddened by that myopia.

[madfloridian]

32. No it was NOT funny.

And you are being quite insulting.

[Rabrrrrrr]

39. If you find one-minute of Gore-jokes in 22-minutes of Republican bashing "ugly"

or "outrageous" or "sad" or fucking whatever enough to stop watching the show, I'm not surprised you find the phrase "it seems to me that..." to be "insulting".

I'm sorry I don't subscribe your second-grade level of purity requirements, but, gosh, I've not only made fun of Gore, but I've ....... insert huge scary organ chord here..... I've made fun of Bill Clinton! Yes, I have! Yes, I have!! OOoooh, Rabrrrrrr's such a big boy, isn't he? Yes, he is! Yes, he is!!

:eyes:

[madfloridian]

41. No, you are not funny either.

Insulting people is never funny or cute.

[Rabrrrrrr]

44. That's funny!

I've never claimed to be a comedian.

Why don't you critique me on the basis of what I *have* claimed or said, instead of just making shit up?

Or do you have another comedian to boycott? I heard Bill Hicks made a Bill Clinton penis joke - maybe you should head over to the Bill Hicks website and protest!!!!

[madfloridian]

47. Stewart is not funny to us anymore.

He does not have a goal of his comedy that comes from within him. That is real humor, when you feel it in your gut. He doesn't do that anymore.

You sound impressed with yourself.

[Rabrrrrrr]

51. So after a few thousand shows, he makes one joke at a sacred cow

and you leave.

Well, good - I don't want my party filled with that kind of immaturity, because we will never, ever, ever offer a candidate, potential candidate, or any other human being who will ever fit your purity tests.

I prefer to have people in my party who are willing to say "Hey - 90% of the time they do well, that's better than just about any human can be expected to do, I'll forgive them this one". That is, I prefer to be with mature people.

Enjoy your purity party; you and the other two or three who will be in it. Good luck with the next election!

[madfloridian]

55. No, after many unfunny shows. I have no loyalty to comedians.

They are funny to us if they are coming from inside themselves, not just being silly.

We enjoyed him in the past.

I am sorry you feel it necessary to be so insulting, but that is pretty much par for the course here now.

[Rabrrrrrr]

63. Telling the truth is now considered "insulting"?

Wow, what a world you live in.

I'm glad I'm in the world where I can think that Al Gore is a totally fucking amazing person, someone I would love to be president, someone I wish could have an hour every night on TV to teach America about everything from political process to history to theology to how to science, and still think that it's okay to make fun of him when he says or does something that's kinda dumb - or even really dumb.

But, hey, we all choose all our own worlds, and I affirm them all.

[madfloridian]

65. You can be you without putting others' views down.

It should not bother you at all that I don't think Jon Stewart is funny anymore.

[Rabrrrrrr]

138. I don't mind you not thinking he's funny. That's fine.

It's the idiocy - the immaturity - of dropping him like a hot potato, of saying "Whoa! It was funny he nailed republicans, but he just nailed a Democrat - FUCK HIM!!!!! I'm BOYCOTTING!!!!!" because of one "failure", that wasn't even a failure to begin with. Unfunny, perhaps, to some - but to boycott over one failure in ten years of being on TV?

That's just asshole.

It doesn't sound like you are in that camp, having found him unfunny long ago, so that's fine. I see now my argument really isn't with you, but I wasn't reading quite close enough to see it.

[Up2Late]

75. Who's the "us" and "we" you are talking about? Are you the Queen of Florida now?

First off, the Congress just changed hands, so now that "we" are in charge, "We" are going to get targeted if "we" say stupid things, that how political comedy works.

Who do you like? Bill Maher?

Second, he just lost his long time Producer, so the show is going to change a little until they get into a new groove.

And finally, "...He does not have a goal of his comedy that comes from within him. That is real humor, when you feel it in your gut. He doesn't do that anymore...." :wtf:

HELLO! He has WRITERS! Most of what's on the show is written by others! It's a Comedy/Satire show, not a Stand-up act! :banghead: :rant:

[madfloridian]

127. The "we" is myself and my husband. It is a sin at DU to criticize Stewart.

For a while it was a sin to criticize Maher.

The Queen of Florida?

Why is it so touchy here about Stewart?

I watch Maher sometimes. I like Colbert very much.

I criticize Stewart because this is still a country in which I can have an opinion.

[loudsue]

57. See post #31. That nails it.

"I don't want my party filled with that kind of immaturity"???? Did you really say that???

:rofl:

[Rabrrrrrr]

60. Good luck finding your perfect God King.

I'm sorry for your life of constant disappointment, but it's your choice.

:sigh:

[TreasonousBastard]

76. Damn, Rabbrrrrr! Watchoo been...

drinking tonight?

You're onna roll.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

95. Dude, you'll never convince them...

Ideologues (either from the left or the right) are the most humor-impaired people on earth. I don't need to tell you that a good comedian goes for the joke no matter where it lies. What some people want is "humorous propaganda" that supports their point of view. Which is pretty much the role that Dennis Miller plays for Republicans. Some folks on this board would like to turn Jon Stewart into the Democratic version. Here's hoping they remain disappointed.

[Up2Late]

67. Hey, I agree with everything you've written here...

...but try to keep your cool with these "former Stewart Fans," they tend to never let you get the last word in, no matter how many times you post.

O.K., hold on "madfloridian," your's is coming next.

[youthere]

122. I was feeling it in my gut...

I laughed so hard it hurt...and I happen to ADORE Al Gore.

[Dorian Gray]

141. To "us?"

Who is this "us?" I'm just curious.

I thought the joke was not particularly funny, but I still like Stewart.

[Occulus]

72. 'funny' and 'not funny' are deeply subjective terms

But, being a thinking progressive, you already know that.

:D

[Toots]

106. Well I love Al Gore and was not in the slightest upset with Stewart's making fun of him

Al has gained some weight and anyone would have to admit that bringing up a burning baby was a bit over the top. I am wearing my big girl panties and can take a little ribbing. I see there are a bunch (probably children) that don't know satire and comedy from Apples. I think Al Gore is winning and it really pisses off the Republicans. He is getting his message across and an occasional swipe at his weight or his eagerness to convince is not inappropriate. just my $.02 worth

[youthere]

121. My husband and I both love Gore...

and we laughed our asses off. It's a sad day when we take ourselves so seriously.

[kenny blankenship]

31. The problem isn't lack of purity

the problem is opportunism and the commercial format. Satire produced on an industrial scale and industrial schedule leads to opportunistic attacks without a stable perspective. (Notice I said stable, not pure). Satire without an implicit point of view is, in the long run, just degrading. It's stuck on corrosive and never part of anything constructive, although it may pose as "countercultural" or "anti-establishment" at first, letting on that it knows how things could be better. Unless it has principles that it sticks to and knows friend from foe it's not "healthy skepticism" but just lucrative cynicism, breeding more cynicism in the surrounding culture.

Having a liberal point of view in an ocean of conservative media, knowing what it hated with confidence, and being ready to throw down and call a greedy pig a greedy pig, is what made the Daily Show a watchable show, and a refreshing change from that Moebius strip of yuppie cack we know as broadcast network sketch comedy.

[ComerPerro]

35. well, I would hope that even liberals can laugh at liberals

[kenny blankenship]

49. I would hope so too

I don't expect that much from Stewart, honestly. So when his show lays a big stinky turd, like equating Al Gore and James Inhofe on the subject of global warming, and holding them up as similarly annoying/risible personalities it doesn't bother me. I just wait for the next bit, and I'll laugh if it's good, or go do something interesting.

It's not so much that it has a "liberal" point of view that made TDS special, it's more that it had A point of view at all. And it's not so much that it was surrounded by an ocean of "conservative" media either. Everything else on the channels which everyone gets simply reflects a corporate class consensus. Which tends of course to be inherently conservative: deferential in its relationship to political and economic power. And to say corporate media is conformist in its seduction of the billion-eyed audience is tautological. It oozes with the joys of conformism.

TDS stuck out against that background like dayglo chartreuse semen on a blue serge dress, if on some other planet such substances exist and collide. The Daily Show was personal, definitely not in lock-step, definitely not on-board for the Big Win in Iraq, and even defiant in the face of post-911 authoritarianism. I'd just hate to see Stewart retreating to a pose of "Oh they all do it! They're all pompous assholes!" now that the Democrats are back in some degree of power. On his own, while the Republicans held all branches of gov't, Stewart and his writers have been positively scorching on the subject of global warming. It is at odds with his own record of taking a strong position against Bush and the Hill Republicans on global warming for Stewart to pretend that somehow Gore and Inhofe are equally lampoonable targets. Either Stewart didn't mean all those jokes he's made in the past about how bad Bush, Inhofe and the Republicans are on the subject or he doesn't really think Gore and Inhofe are like his dysfunctional Mommy and Daddy fighting and tearing the family apart. Gore is just a human being and a career politician at that. (For a career politician some say he's remarkably like a human being.) He has the inevitable quota of quirks, mannerisms, and self-regard that can be picked at and needled. There is not a soul alive on this earth you can't say that of. On the other hand, James Inhofe is a flaming asshole. A bit that shows Gore and Inhofe as more alike than different is evidence of somebody worried that with Democrats in power now, his meal ticket is expiring. A bit that focuses on the foibles of character of all sides when the subject under discussion is global warming (how many years did we have to wait to have hearings on this ?) is worse than a waste of my time. I'll wander off or flip the channel.

[loudsue]

46. You nailed it, Kenny...that's what made me feel sick.

It didn't resemble any type of healthy skepticism, it was just throwing crap out there about Gore that didn't have any relavance to reality. In other words, it didn't make anything that was "real" to be seen from a funny point of view.

What is real is that the entire rightwing media has lied and twisted what is real, and GOOD, about Gore, and has stuck this nation with a psycho for a president (and yes, the media did have a huge hand in this: it was Roger Ailes w/ Faux news that started yelling that bush was winning in Florida on election night in 2000, and of course Roger is bush's first cousin). Stewart could have used THAT fact in a very funny way... he could have made a joke about how the media twists everything about Gore, and tries to make him look like a "loser".

But that's not what he did. He just took the stereotypes about Gore that the media has already done, and took it a step further, and just made Gore out to be a loser.

Thank you for your post. It helps to clarify what it was about the program that I really didn't like.

:kick:

[charlie and algernon]

98. he's a frickin COMEDIAN!! he does COMEDY!

he's not a right wing stooge, nor is he a democratic warrior leading you into battle.


Tell me, do you find anything funny? at all?

[deutsey]

119. It was John Ellis who was Bush's cousin and the one who called it for Bush

[Guaranteed]

78. Consider it a test. Jon was giving Al a gift.

Jon took it real easy on him, gave Al an opportunity to really consider whether he wants to go in for another 8 years of bullshit. I think that was Jon's message tonight.

[Goat or Panic]

79. Bingo.

"Satire without an implicit point of view is, in the long run, just degrading. It's stuck on corrosive and never part of anything constructive, although it may pose as "countercultural" or "anti-establishment" at first, letting on that it knows how things could be better. Unless it has principles that it sticks to and knows friend from foe it's not "healthy skepticism" but just lucrative cynicism, breeding more cynicism in the surrounding culture. "

You just described "South Park" to a "T."

[Freddie Stubbs]

89. It isn't supposed to be constructive, it's supposed to be funny

[melody]

12. It was one stupid joke in an attempt at bipartisan comedy

I didn't think it was funny, but I'd much rather have them take shots at both sides, even if they did send off a blank toward Al.

TDS is usually brilliant. One miss is acceptable.

[jwirr]

14. Since Stewart and Colbert are on at the same time as KO I do not

have to watch any of that.

[a kennedy]

yeah, and about KO, did you hear him say "my girlfriend"

on his show last night??? I forget what he was talking about, but I heard him say something about his girlfriend. Anyone else hear that???

[Stuckinthebush]

114. Who? The 20 year old girlfriend?

Or a different one?

[a kennedy]

132. Yeah, the one he's living with, it was kinda strange, I've never

heard him mention her at all.....not even on his radio sports show. :shrug: Not that there's anything wrong with it, just was different hearing him mention her.

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

15. How many Al Gores does it take to screw in a light bulb?

2.

One to screw in the light bulb, and one to feed to the fat one a Big Mac.

How many Al Gores does it take to invent the Internet?

None. It's a stupid f***ing premise to your joke, asswipe.

Lighten up. Did you see Gore wipe the floor up with Infhofe? have you seen Al on Saturday Night Live? He's a pretty funny guy. I'm sure he knows the media memes and even his own weaknesses. And so should we.

[loudsue]

17. Did you watch the Daily show tonite?

It was just gross & insulting.

I know Al's a funny guy. But Jon Stewart isn't. And yes, I saw Gore wipe the floor w/ Infhoe... and I saw him wipe the floor w/ bush in 2000. But it's performances like SPEWart was spewing tonite that dumbs-down the whole conversation about what's going on in this country, and the mainstream media has perfected it. Jon sounded just like bill o'reilly tonite.

My husband is a jovial kinda guy, who is ready to laugh at just about any joke. He sat there as cold as I did.

[ithinkmyliverhurts]

26. Perhaps I've been numbed by the MSM.

When they made fun of Gore's stiff style, his "exagerrations" (which they were not--but then why did Gore apologize?), etc., he did a sort of ju-jitsu, appropriated these elements, and made fun of himself.

I saw the show tonight and really thought nothing of it. Kind of vanilla Gore joke-telling. But I still giggle at Clinton fellatio jokes.

Not much is sacred with me.

[FourScore]

18. I haven't seen it yet.

I saved it with my DVR, but maybe I'll skip this one.

That's unfortunate too, because Imhofe was the one who set himself up to be made fun of; especially around the time Boxer smacked him down. And I never liked fat jokes. Ever. I think they are extremely insensitive and crass. Didn't like it with Monica. Don't like it with Gore. But have you noticed, no one ever seems to joke about a republicans weight problem? Am I wrong about that? Maybe some comments were made recently about Coulter looking skeletal, but I can't think of any other time.

Too bad though about TDS this time. Still, I won't stop watching because of it. I also disagree that Stewart's not good anymore. Sometimes he does a great job and sometimes he flops. Sounds like this was a flop.

I remember the old SNL performers all being interviewed together on a talk show once years ago. They talked about how difficult it was to do a comedy show once a week and still fulfill the high expectations that the audience had each and every time. Quite frankly, I don't know how Stewart and Colbert do it 4 times a week for 3 weeks in a month.

I do love Al Gore though. I'll say that!

And I repect your loyalty to the man! Let's hope he joins the race!

[loudsue]

29. Thank you, whereismyparty.

And I really do recommend that you tape over this one...just don't watch it. It may be really hard for commedians to be funny week after week, but this was a real bomb, and makes me wonder about where Stewart's head is.

Al Gore is a great man, and following the rightwing talking points like a sheep is something I don't expect from Stewart. At least Colbert makes satire out of the talking points. Stewart was just slinging crap at Gore...the same stuff we hear on all the news networks.

[Colobo]

20. Jon makes fun of both sides, and that's more than fair. That's good, actually.

[wtmusic]

21. It would have been tolerable if:

1) Al wasn't busting his ass on his own dime to save the freaking world we live in
2) The issue wasn't so important.

Making light in any way shape or form of Al and his issue trivializes them. We can't afford it.

[Colobo]

33. He is a comedian, he makes fun of people

and some of his public is probably conservative and doesn't like Al Gore, and he was probably catering to them and to people in general who find Gore jokes funny.

Don't take it personal, it's his job.

[wtmusic]

48. Nothing personal

I just don't find it funny. He's trivializing something that's too important.

Stewart would never joke about a single high profile murder, but millions will die (and are already dying, most likely) as the result of global warming.

[nam78_two]

22. He wasn't dissing Gore-it was just a rather bad joke

I don't think Gore would care honestly :). Now if it was those Southpark guys (who actually think global warming is a "hoax"-or at least used to) it would be another thing.

I think Jon just made a lame joke. For a satirist, he is about as complimentary toward Gore as he can be.

[diamidue]

25. Stewart & Colbert amused me at first,

but I find it harder and harder to laugh about what is going on in the world. I want certain people tried for crimes against humanity - not just used as fodder for comedy routines. And it irks me when Stewart & Colbert bring on some of these same people to help them plug their books or advance their agendas....

[Colobo]

37. They are comedians, their job is not to "make justice" or

advance political causes, even though they are both lean left. They have comedy shows, and their job is to entertain, and they have all sorts of viewers. They need to cater to their audience, and some of it is actually conservative.

Yesterday, Jon got praised because of his handling of John Bolton, and now he gets some hate because he makes some jokes about Al Gore...

[wtmusic]

38. It's would certainly be less funny to the victims of the atrocities

taking place in the world every day. What is at the root of Republican politics today is so ugly that joking about it only reveals a lack of compassion, or awareness.

[lvx35]

53. Yeah, that bothers me as well.

It seems to me more and more like a way to just "laugh it off" with things that shouldn't be laughed off, like camps Americans disappear to without trials, or preemptive war or documented war crimes. Sometimes a laugh is good, takes the stress off...But maybe we should be sweating some of these things.

[Orangepeel]

27. I laughed out loud at the cold little girl rooming with the flaming baby

And I think Inhoff looked like the ass he is.

I don't think everything Stewart does is funny (the "fourth mealer" thing didn't do anything for me), but I don't think he has an obligation not to make jokes about Gore.

[Starbucks Anarchist]

36. I thought it was hilarious.

[sanskritwarrior]

54. As did I

Vee Vill Not Tolerate Any Vun Making Zee Jokes About Our People..............

[Starbucks Anarchist]

56. Freeper alert!

:rofl: :sarcasm:

[sanskritwarrior]

58. Tell me about it

Gore is more man than any republican but that doesn't mean a comedian can't make a joke......

[BlooInBloo]

43. Aaah.... the fickle stormy seas of DU... ROFLMAO!!!

[Kelly Rupert]

70. I'm pretty sure if Jesus Christ came down tomorrow, and said,

"Hey, guys, just so you know, I am totally against war, I think your capitalist economy is unfair, global warming is real and humans are the cause, gays are cool by me, condoms are a great idea, and the death penalty is wrong. Oh, and I'd prefer you not perform abortions," then half of DU would immediately complain that "Jesus CRAP" was a right-wing fanatic.

[Hippo_Tron]

45. I was mostly annoyed that he let Inhofe off the hook

The fact that Jon took a cheap shot at Gore means that he has nothing against him policy wise.

[mondo joe]

107. The Daily Show is not a policy expose - it's a COMEDY show.

You know - poop jokes, politics, people fumbling over words, so on.

[Hippo_Tron]

148. I agree

I was just pointing out that Jon had nothing to say negative about Gore's environmental views so he make fat jokes to get a laugh. With Bush and the GOP, their politics are so dumb that he can actually make jokes about that.

[elcondor]

50. Stewart frequently makes

fun of himself for having a little extra around his middle. (I personally don't see anything wrong, but I digress.) I've been watching the Daily Show for almost five years, I'm not going to stop watching because I admire Al Gore and Jon *gasp* poked a little fun at something about Gore that he himself admits is a problem he shares. But, hey, if you want to stop watching, and resort to calling Stewart unclever names (Spewert?) by all means ...

[deadparrot]

52. Oh, good lord. Will we ever learn to laugh at ourselves?

:banghead:

[Up2Late]

59. OH BOOO FRICKIN' HOO! He made fun of Saint AL!

:cry:Oh PLEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeese! It's Comedy! :banghead:

Everyone is fair game, not that he even making fun of AL. Get a clue, if you had kept listening, instead of worrying about a COMEDIAN poking a little fun at AL and his occasionally, way to Folksy metaphors, you might have noticed that most of the jokes were aimed at the completely ridiculous antics of that jerk James Inhofe and the dork with the "...is she going to have to wear two coats in the winter..." poster guy (something that I already have to do winter time and yet my heating bill is STILL killing me, btw).

Funny how I never see you post how much you DO like The Daily Show at the nearly nightly TDS posts, by the actual fans of the show, when the topic is NOT Al Gore.

Sounds like you were never more than a casual fan to me. So don't try to drag everyone else down to your "I don't get it" Hell.

And by "it" I mean satire, very sophisticated satire! :rant:

[Colobo]

62. Some common sense here. Thanks.

[loudsue]

77. "sounds like to me...."

Where in the hell did you get that from any of my posts? That I was a "casual" fan? Where do you get off assuming such a stupid thing? And what in the hell is this "fan" thing? That if you like someone, you become a sheep or something, and have to follow what all the other good little fans do?

The reason I haven't posted on the TDS threads, is because I usually continue watching Colbert, and then go to bed, or watch other shows. Besides, "fan" threads usually don't interest me. So, you only watch certain tv shows on a regular basis if you come post on DU about what a FAN you are?? And you're telling ME to "get a clue"???


You are saying I'm "dragging everyone else down"? No. All these people that want to keep hammering on the "purist" theme are the ones that are trying to stifle discussion, and certainly drag down the discourse. As if, in the event someone doesn't like something, then their whole and entire encarnation is built around being a purist. That is such a stupid generality, I can't even begin to address it.

I'm very well educated, thank you, and I know very well what satire is. What Jon did tonite was NOT funny to me. That doesn't mean I have any character flaws, nor does it mean that someone who DID think it was funny has any character flaws. It means we disagree. To think otherwise is what is immature, bullying, and childish.

For your further information, I DID KEEP LISTENING. But he had pretty much lost me. I kept listening because I HOPED he could bring me back around. But I had already seen the smallness of his remarks, and it disgusted me.

[gbate]

90. Right! Stewart is a comedian, not a politician.

[JI7]

64. has Al Gore ever been on his show ?

[Rosemary2205]

69. Yes, several times.

He was on when running for Pres and just after and again several times more recently regarding Gore's books.

[Kelly Rupert]

66. I saw it. It was funny. Get over it. n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

68. My god he is making fun of the RIGHT WING

you guys are over sensitive, this is pure gold as a comedian

[Guaranteed]

71. That was REALLY not bad. And, to be honest, we need to be able

to take it as well as we can dish it.

[Beelzebud]

73. I'm glad I have sense of humor...

[TreasonousBastard]

74. Woo-Hoo! The Purity Police are at it again. One crack...

and now Jon Stewart is toast.

Oh, pleeze, PLEEZE give me just ONE person who agrees with me all the time about everything and never, ever, says or does anything that might possibly piss me off.

[La_Fourmi_Rouge]

80. I laughed my ass off.

I thought the whole show tonight was one of the best i have seen for a long time. The young kid Dimitri was also funny as hell. "Kids, just make your clips untraceable!"("The Schmaily Schmow"... I counldn't tll the differnce, either)

Al Gore can tell a joke and take one as well - you need not waste your time defending him, 'cuz if anyone disses him, Tipper will smack them down before the Goreacle knows they exist.

Frankly, I don't get this OP. It seems kind of hypersensitive.

BTW, I personally thought that Al's remark "If the crib is on fire you don't speculate whether or not the baby is flame retardant" was the greatest political satire I have heard since Lenny Bruce.

Right now, if Al Gore wants his own half hour on Comedy Central, it is his for the asking.

[xchrom]

81. stewart himself has publicly stated that he doesn't have a ''political warrior'' thing going on

and that people who think he does will be disappointed.

he isn't there to lead a charge for ''us'' -- he is there to poke fun of and make himself laugh -- and hopefully others -- at what ever is topical for him.

one of stewarts by-lines is that he never falls in love with his audience.

[Larkspur]

82. Stewart missed the best part of the hearings -- Boxer treating Inhofe as a whiny child

Stewart did take Gore's comments about the Earth with a fever and the baby in a burning crib out of context and he totally ignored Inhofe's performance that would have been a gold mine for a comedian. I like Jon Stewart, but he really missed a comedy gold with Inhofe's childish behavior.

I didn't have a problem with Stewart poking fun at the press for their comments calling Gore Goracle, etc.

[Lisa]

147. I think they showed the bit with Boxer holding the gavel, "elections have consequences"

... at the end, as their "moment of zen"?

[OneBlueSky]

83. I got bored with Jon Stewart a long time ago . . . just ain't that funny, imo . . . n/t

.

[KG]

85. some days, nothing beats DU for real comedy.

:eyes:

[trumad]

87. LOL--Agree

In threads like these you always have one or two who hop on board with the OP writer and stomp their feet hoping everyone climbs on board... I'm sure countless have read this thread, rolled their eyes and moved on without a response because it simply wasn't worth their time. I take great comfort in knowing that the OP writer and a few who cry about Stewart are in a very small minority here on DU.

If they don't like John because he hurts their tender sensibilities--- so be it.... I just think if their that thin-skinned, then pretty soon they better sell their TV cause they won't have anything to watch.

[charlie and algernon]

96. LOL

amen!

[EFerrari]

86. At the end of the bit, he made fun of it because it wasn't funny. n/t

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

88. You're Right! He Should Be Held To The Same Standards Of Being 100% Perfect As The Rest Of Us!

I mean, why would anyone want to watch someone who isn't 100% perfect all of the time like the rest of us are? Someone like that shouldn't even be on tv! :sarcasm:

...Oh yeah, and he's just a comedian. Yup. Just a comedian.

[lynne]

91. Stewart is an entertainer -

- not a politician or a journalist or an employee of any political party. Entertainer only. As campaign season draws closer, we're going to see the same and more from him and other entertainers about every politician without regard to party. No party or politician will be immune. It's time to grow a thick skin in preparation for the campaign jokes!

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

92. Get over yourself. n/t

[BoneDaddy]

93. He can only make fun of the right?

Puh-lease! He is an entertainer for crying out loud. The hero worship by the left can be as bad as the right. Gore is great but it is kind of ironic that this "conserver" is blowing up in front of our faces. Obviously he doesn't conserve food. Would I vote for him, hell yeah. Do I like Al, hell yeah. Is he a sacred cow (no pun intended), HELL NO!

[charlie and algernon]

94. Stewart addressed this very thing

On Sit Down Comedy with David Sandberg (sp?) he said that people are making him their warrior leader and get pissed when he doesn't live up to THEIR expections. He said that's not who he is and that's the main reason why he doesn't play to the audience.

He's not, nor ever has been a democratic warrior, get over yourself. he's a comedian!

[NoSheep]

101. Sounds like the same thing Bob Dylan said when his audience

tried to make him the poster child for all their causes. I think he wanted to own himself, not have others dictate would he could and couldn't do.

I understand how people can be disappointed...but it doesn't bother me so bad. I guess I can see it from another perspective.

[mondo joe]

97. If we win the WH in 08 you'd better throw away your television. When you have power

expect comedians to make jokes.

[NNN0LHI]

99. I tried watching Jon Stewart one time. I found him unwatchable

:boring:

[LynneSin]

100. THAT'S IS - CALL YOUR CONGRESSMEN NOW!!!!!! DO IT UNTIL YOUR FINGERS BLEED

:eyes:

Jon Stewart never proclaimed to be the spokesperson for the democratic party. Get the hell over it

[mondo joe]

102. Stewart Must Be Impeached NOW!

;-)

[LynneSin]

103. This is HUGH!!!1111, I"M SERIES!1111!!!! wE ARE VEY VEY SCREWN

:eyes;

[charlie and algernon]

105. if we don't get a congressional hearing, RIGHT NOW

i'm leaving the democratic party!11!!!!11!!1!1!!

[mondo joe]

108. We must hold congress accountable, and Jon Stewart too. Has Code Pink been

notified?

[LynneSin]

123. No but International Answer is hosting a protest next month about it

They have 30 speakers of unrelated issues lined up to talk about it

[mondo joe]

125. My only concern: if StewRAT is impeached, Colbert will step up to take his place.

We have to take them both down at the same time.

[merh]

104. But wait a minute, if you aren't with us, you are against us!

:grr:


Ooooppps, wrong party meme, sorry - carry on. :blush:

[Darth_Ole]

109. You're forgetting that Jon had Al Gore on as a guest last year...

And if I remember right, they trashed the Repukes. So I forgive last night's bit... I've written satire and humor columns on a monthly basis before, and I have the utmost respect for folks who can write Emmy award winning comedy every night for almost five years... Last night's bit sucked, but they're in the midst of a producer and writer change at TDS. Count on the show making a comeback...

[merh]

111. My comment was sarcastic (as a writer, you should get that)

I was mocking those that think Stewart owes us anything and that his bit about Gore was worthy of this thread.

The bit sucked? So, not everyone bats 1000.

It was about Gore? So, Gore is a public figure and I would venture to guess that next to Clinton, he has had more bad jokes told about him than others in the party. And the truth is, his appearance was ripe for comedy, the flame retardant baby comment was a bit over the top.

[Darth_Ole]

135. No, I completely agree with you Merh!

When I said "You're forgetting," I didn't mean you... I meant all those who are enraged toward Jon Stewart... No sweat! Daily Show is still tops in my book...

[Kelly Rupert]

112. WE MUST IMPEACH. IT IS NOT OPTIONAL.

THE CONSTITUTION CLEARLY STATES THAT JON SPEWART MUST BE IMPEACHED FOR TREASON

[WI_DEM]

113. he's a comedian not a democratic comedian but an all round comedian and he goes after all

and if the Dems win in '08 you'll have to be prepared for it.

[AtomicKitten]

115. IMO Jon showcased Inhofe's dickishness.

Also I believe the Moment of Zen was Boxer telling Inhofe that elections have consequences.

I think Jon did fine, but then again my world doesn't revolve around The Daily Show.

[ellie]

116. I thought it was

funny. I like John and I love Al.

[MedleyMisty]

118. Seriously

Why are so many people terribly threatened by the idea that a few people didn't like it?

I don't have cable and haven't watched TV in years, so I didn't see it and don't care about it. But I am troubled by the jumping on the bash the "purity" people bandwagon. Some people didn't like it. Others did. Okay, that's all right, and it doesn't imply anything about the entire character and personality and intelligence and life of either side. My God, just drop it and go on with your lives.

[lonestarnot]

120. He was teasing Al because he gained some weight sooooooo.

[Forkboy]

124. Sacred cows make the best hamburgers.

I really,really wish we could learn to laugh at ourselves.

[Hell Hath No Fury]

128. Then I guess you weren't...

watching TDS during the Clinton administration and Monicagate, 'cause Stewert did a LOT tackier jokes during that time!

If your only experience of Jon is the Bush years, then you are really gonna hate the show when we have a Democratic president -- 'cause Jon is gonna go after them just as strongly as he has Bush.

After all, it is his job.

[NYCGirl]

129. My only problem was disappointment that it wasn't more clever. The writers

went for the easy shot — fat jokes are easy.

[Marr]

130. He's a comedian, not a Democratic Party operative.

I thought the piece fell flat, personally- but then- I'm not running the Daily Show.

I was hoping they'd show Boxer's smack down of that idiot Inhofe, but there you. They aren't doing that show to help the Democratic Party. Nor should they.

[high density]

131. It's a comedy show

And it has been increasingly going for the lowest common denominator over the last few years... Most of the witty humor has moved over to Colbert's show. If you don't like it, don't watch it. You shouldn't feel the need to be "offended by proxy" for the sake of Al Gore. It's just silly. That's what the right wingers do when they see a boob flashed on TV for 2 seconds.

[gravity]

133. Lighten up, it was one joke

Stop taking everything so seriously, especially since it is a fucking comedy show. You guys are acting like Jon Stewart has a political agenda to go after Al Gore, even though he attacks conservatives 10x as much.

Nobody is perfect, even Saint Al Gore.

Boycotting a show because of one joke sounds like a freeper thing to do. Lighten up, and learn to laugh at yourself every once in a while.

[Anwen]

134. I didn't think it was funny, either.

I am all for equal ridicule of both sides, but only when they do something worth making fun of. Taking Gore's speech out of context and then making fat jokes was simply not funny to me. I'd expect to see that from other comedy or news programs, but watching Jon Stewart join the fray was extremely disappointing. The jokes left a bad taste in my mouth last night, however I will still probably tune in when I have the time.

[Generator]

136. Catch a clue, peeps

(So timely too with Easter around the corner!)

THEY got to him.

On a serious note, I think some of us have lost their humour bones-and damn right we have-it ain't funny anymore. I rarely watch the Daily Show anymore. It hurts. Though I do looove Stewarts impression of Cheney. But what is really funny is some smart people on here arguing about what is funny or what is not funny. It reminds me of my Dad trying to get me to believe only country music WAS music and my rock and roll was "noise." You can't argue these things, you crazy peeps.

[Bright Eyes]

137. one joke out of hundreds of shows

no offense, but you need to chill :)

and SPEWart? thats certainly not immature

[blondeatlast]

139. Goodie. Thousands more like you and let's just say goodbye to unapproved

political satire forever.

Sheesh. I hope you didn't watch during the Clinton years; on second thought, you obviously didn't. That would have taken you right 'round the bend and you are still here.

[dave29]

140. Jon Stewart is a history buff... his strength has never been "science"

I think whenever the subject of science comes up, he has to resort to this kind of humor. He even made fun of the fact that all he had on Gore was "fat man" jokes at the end of the segment.

Gore will get this and MUCH worse if he runs again. Count on it. He's certainly not going to take it personally, and neither should we.

[Supersedeas]

142. I saw it...and don't make a habit of watch J Stew...and I'll continue that pattern

[cgrindley]

143. Don't freak out

understand that I believe that anthrogenic climate change is real and irreversible and


a) Gore's analogies *were* stupid
b) Al *is* fat

[gravity]

144. I just watched it, and thought the show was hilarious

Gore did say some pretty crazy things, and like the baby on fire in the crib and the Goracle. The Show also made fun of the republicans just as much too, and followed up attacking Tony Snow.

Jon Stewart wasn't attacking Gore's position on global warming, just how stupid some of his folksy metaphors were during his testimony, and that awkward comment about eating breakfast. He is making fun the stupid political comments that all politicians make to try to get there point across.

I guess some people get so offended that they fail to see the point the Jon Stewart is trying to make, or even have the ability to laugh at themselves every once in a while.

[JitterbugPerfume]

145. Good grief folks,

it's satire!

I love Al Gore AND I think Jon Stewart is funny. It's kinda like walking and chewing gum at the same time.