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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 08:48 PM
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The history channel and control of a population
well folks been thinking about this... WHY are we having this end of the world insanity?

It's all about control

Not the first time either. Think.. year 1000 the church was starting to loose control... and what did we see? Milleniarims took over with a passion in the Western World. Didn't last.

Now when Colon bumped into North America the Millenarian impulse, that lasted for seventy years or so, made sense. America was not mentioned in ANy biblical book... WTF over? So that one made sense.

But what is going on right now... is similar to what happened in the year 1000

Think about it... like clockwork the return should have happened, and has not

So the last hope is the Great Galactic Alignment when multiple calendars come to an end, because after all the ancients could not be sophisticated enough to be able to predict this alignment and use prophetic language as a metaphor, of course not... :sarcasm:

So yes, the exercise in the History Channel (paid by the right) is all about inducing mass hysteria and population control

Oh and it has an added benefit, global warming... it is god made

Been bugging me all this time, why are they running more and more of this crap and we all know that the RIGHT controls the history channel, like they do control a lot of our other media

Oh and if the world is coming to an end, why do people have to worry about anything?

See, neat package, and neat sociological experiment

Replace the Churches of the year 1000 with the History channel;, the exact same role of social control.


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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 08:55 PM
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1. Between this and the Discovery Channel (owned by the same people)
they are banging that one drum hard lately...
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 08:57 PM
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2. Exactly... but the mass hysteria helps with population control
and that is what I think this is about
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:09 PM
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11. Actually History Channel is owned by A&E
not Discovery
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:52 PM
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44. who owns Discovery?. . . n/t
Edited on Sun Jan-11-09 09:53 PM by annabanana
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:11 PM
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12. Seriously, I suspect that this has more to do with pushing some
upcoming movies than anything else. "2012" and "Knowing"


A couple months back it was all crystal skulls!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:15 PM
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19. There is some of that as well
Edited on Sun Jan-11-09 09:16 PM by nadinbrzezinski
but they have been running the nostradamus programs for three to four years with increasing intensity

Granted, it takes that long to take a script from concept to final production... but... there is more to this than just doing movies...

Of course they could be pushing Shadowrun... a decade or two after it came out into the gaming scene

:-)


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Bonescrat Donating Member (227 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 08:58 PM
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3. One of the advantages of not subscribing to cable TV...
It's nice to be disconnected from the collective conscious. I do catch "The Universe" episodes online though. I believe they come from the History Channel. Haven't really heard anything about the "end times" nonsense other than the usual.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:01 PM
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7. One of the things i did with my thesis was read a bunch of millenarian crap
related to the discovery of the America's (and of course the older one)

And that is why this has a very similar taste to that

We just don't have the ever present holy mother church, with the wonderful messages on the walls, to tell us what to believe in

So we have LaHaye, Nostradamus now and all the time, the Mayan Calendar, and other Millenarian crap

You are getting it too... in a way, but not fed down to you in this direct way

Trust me, a thesis or two will be written about this in years and decades to come
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neverforget Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 08:59 PM
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4. Damnit! and here I thought it was the FreeMasons who controlled the world!
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:03 PM
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9. It's the Templers I tell you, the Templers!
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:07 PM
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10. Factoid, for the members of the Western World in the year 1000
the Templars had the same almost magical implications as the Free Masons had (until recently relatively speaking) in the modern world
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:14 PM
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16. yeah, that's nutty stuff, but giving 700 billion to banksters will sa-ave us!
or perhaps, save *your* particular investments.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 02:28 AM
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49. Reverse Time Flow Factoid For The Win!
Since they controlled the time streams in the past, they must control the future too! Wait until they reverse the date, and we find ourselves in the year 9002. Then you'll know their victory is complete. (Hint: that Button film is just them laughing at us. They all live their lives backwards)
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:12 PM
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14. not so wild, if you actually know something of the history.
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8 track mind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 10:42 PM
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48. no, no, no, it's the Iluminati! n/t
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 08:59 PM
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5. Except that...
a) not that many people watch the history channel
b) not that many people take it seriously
c) not that many people take the people who are an exception to b) seriously
d) 2012 millenarianism is more of a hippie thing to start with

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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 08:59 PM
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6. That's interesting.

I kind of got bored with the Hitler channel ages ago, but when I'm floating past have noticed there is much more mystical programming.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:03 PM
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8. It just dawned on me WHY? And this is one thing that makes sense
the WW II channel was at its height during the worst of the war in Iraq... and they failed to make the connection between the good war and this war
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:15 PM
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18. You're right about that too. That's very astute and never thought about it.

But the WWII programming was endless, with only the occasional educational show on ancient Egypt and the like. That's why it became unwatchable, but now that you mention the reasoning, it does place it in perspective. It's disgusting.
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 02:31 AM
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50. This is endless too - they've invented time travel
see post #10 for the exciting details of how men from the 12th and 13th centuries dominated the year 1000!

So, in reality, the apocalyptic coverage is endless - but due to the time loop, you don't realise it.
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myrna minx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 03:43 PM
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56. LoL--The Hitler Channel. That's what my friends and I call it as well. n/t
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:11 PM
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13. Well said. Thank you for posting. k+r, n/t
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:13 PM
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15. As an aside I think I have become way too cynical too boot
:-)
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:41 PM
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33. You say that like it's a bad thing. n/t
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:14 PM
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17. What's the hidden agenda behind Ice Road Truckers?
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:17 PM
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20. That's the only show I watch on the History Channel
:shrug:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:17 PM
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21. That is a reality show, not all programs do that
but think of their programing and choices

Though ice road truckers does have a strong pull yourself by your bootstraps message, and the healthy benefits of hard work
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:29 PM
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28. That's because a reality show about working in a cubicle would suck.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:30 PM
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29. That actually has been done, as a comedy
The Office
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:31 PM
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30. Yeah, and the better one was done by the Brits. nt
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:45 PM
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36. Oh absolutely, the brits did a far better job than we did
I am so glad that we NEVER tried to redo Python
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merwin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:45 PM
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35. Yes, but as a reality show it would suck.
Not sure if you've noticed, but The Office is scripted :)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:48 PM
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38. SHHH here is a big secret, so are reality shows
:-)
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:49 PM
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40. I dunno. Some of the RW chat I hear from nearby cubies can be savagely amusing. nt
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 02:33 AM
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51. No, that foreshadows the invasion of the Ice Warriors from Mars
come on, I thought that one was obvious.
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:50 PM
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41. It sets you up for the Axe Men.
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NOW tense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:17 PM
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22. I admit I get fascinated by it.
I like some stuff about 2012. It is not that I really believe it, it is just interesting. I personally think if anything were to happen on 2012 I don't think it is the end of the world scenario.

I do agree with you that in the next two years you will hear alot of apocalyptic talk to create fear in our population. A scared public is far easier to control, just look at the last 8 years.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:20 PM
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23. Oh I have been fascinated by 2012 and Nostradamus
and other esoteric things for now decades

As a writer they are a good place for fodder, and truthfully some of the stuff that happens in the real world would never be sold as a script, see last eight years...

But I am fascinated by all the crap that our media decides to push

Hell, I have even seen LaHaye interviewed as a serious author... ok he is serious, about money... but you know what I mean
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:21 PM
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24. does anyone really watch the history channel and think it's non-fiction?
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:24 PM
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25. They have had over the years a couple programs approaching non-fiction
and the Universe is strange, since it is quite good solid astronomical science... and they even talk of... evolution, I know EEK

I think it is produce to misdirect the few of us who notice it.

You know what the AHA calls the channel right? The History Channel, where History becomes a lie...
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:25 PM
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26. I had a conversation with a 'World Ender' during my Christmas visit
Edited on Sun Jan-11-09 09:25 PM by Lint Head
with my sister. Basically her opinion was wilted with the facts. One thing I said was, where do you get the facts on the Rapture and the end of the world? It's not in the Bible. The Bible talks about the earth ending in fire which can basically be proved through science with the earth being consumed by the Sun in billions of years. I also said, "If someone with no arm is healed by an evangelist and that arm grows back don't you think that would be on YouTube by the next morning?" I didn't hear another word from that person and had a lovely laid back Christmas dinner.
:dem:
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:28 PM
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27. You are bad, snicker....
Miracles galore... I know...

GOOD JOB
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:37 PM
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31. No matter what the Hitler chanel promotes, I'm going with Newton's assessment.
We have till 2060. At least he had a backround in mathematics and divined that we stick to the earth no matter how hard we try to fly by jumping off buildings. Who better to decode the bible. :)
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:40 PM
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32. RLOL
we have that in the ahem... bible code using a computer

It also ends in 2012... if you can believe that.

Of course I want to use the Moby Dick code...

Yes, I'm bad
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 08:59 AM
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53. I would have asked her
If I could have her stuff?
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:44 PM
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34. KnR...Good one Nadin...Good one
:toast:

And...Happy InAug...

Bleesed art thou that voted for Obama...Dominus Vobis cum....

I wish that Man all the luck and prayers in the World...most of us realize how really important he is right now...our Planet needs this man so much....

but there are those who wish him ill.....the Pubs...Oreally and Rove...2 Traitors of the Worst kind...

Scuse my rambling....
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:47 PM
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37. Well as an aside I don't put my faith in leaders, regardless of party,
time for US to hold them accountable.

I vote... but does not end there.

Hell, tomorrow I need to do my weekly pestering, err feeding and caring of congress critters

They are more work than our "kids" (Parrots)
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:49 PM
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39. Good grief-- a channel that gets way less than half...
the viewership of professional wrestling is going to control something?

They did stuff on tractor pulls and 19th century knifemaking, too-- was that all part of the plan?

More like they're searching for something that will help their ratings before they can do the mind control thing.



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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:51 PM
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42. Read on the millenarian movement of the year 1000
and then come back to me... it MAY have delayed the Renassaince by a generation or so

And their ratings are not that bad, or they would have been dropped from BASIC cable


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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:59 PM
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45. How about the the one a hundred years or so ago...
this endtimes stuff happens all the time-- so much it's ended up as a staple of New Yorker cartoons.

Actual millenia just make some of them more rabid, but at least once a century, ofttimes more, some prophet sees The End coming and there are enough assholes around to believe him and call it a movement.









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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 10:04 PM
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46. Yeah that WAS the FIRST Great American Revival
Edited on Sun Jan-11-09 10:05 PM by nadinbrzezinski
difference is, this one is not limited to the US... though it has taken some specific American traits in the US... and will be known as the Second Great American Revival when all is said and done... not only that, it is starting to wane.

See the Jewish Right wing, talking about end of days stuff... which is kind of a no-no in Judaism, but that is besides the point

Take a looksie south of the border, were millennialism has become quite interesting... and taken on Guadalupan traits that make it fascinating, as it is starting to mix some elements of prehispanic culture, You think the Mayan Calendar is big here... you haven't lived.

And it has expanded to Central and South America as well


The major difference, this time Europe, for the most part, is not playing along, THAT MUCH... but the Muslim extreme right wing is playing games as well (which is strange for other reasons)


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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 02:41 AM
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52. You mean we could have had the History Channel a whole generation earlier????
My god, those swine - I could have been having my population controlled by the nefarious, billion-audience History Channel a whole 25 years earlier, if it hadn't had been for those meddling kids peasants. Not to mention my hysteria could have been far for massive by now.

I blame Petrarch. He was obviously a human-plant hybrid.

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asdjrocky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 09:52 PM
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43. End of the world...Hitler...Ice Road Truckers...
This is history.
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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-11-09 10:32 PM
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47. on 12-21-12 we will officially have been punked by our ancestors
Edited on Sun Jan-11-09 10:34 PM by carlyhippy
Me thinks on 12-21-12 we will learn that it was the oldest prank played in written , the sun will rise and set the same as usual....

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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 12:52 PM
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54. My son has a theory about why the Mayan Long count calender ends in 2012.....
"Dude, I'm really sick of carving all these calenders!"

"Me too, let's go grab some mushrooms and morning glory and kick back!"

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carlyhippy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 03:14 PM
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55. haha, that was my theory, also
they got tired of counting and decided to go onto something else...
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