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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 12:42 PM
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Poll question: Jason's definition of "freedom".
http://money.cnn.com/galleries/2009/pf/0901/gallery.layoffs_and_salary_cuts/6.html

The hardest thing I've had to give up is the freedom that I used to have. To be able to go out and spend money and not to have to worry too much about the ramifications.


Do you agree with his assertion?

Why or why not?
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 12:45 PM
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1. How could we agree or disagree? Maybe for him that WAS freedom,
in which case I'd say he has a pretty narrow notion of freedom. Still, though, what's to agree or disagree with?
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 12:49 PM
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2. I remember going through that when I got laid off in 2001.
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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 12:49 PM
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3. That's not his "definition" of "freedom" though.
He's saying that he could spend money freely, and not have to pinch pennies. He is talking about the freedom that he had in a specific context--the context of his discretionary spending. He's not talking about the Founding Fathers, the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution's definition of "freedom."

He's not defining the overarching concept of "freedom" --he is speaking strictly in terms of his wallet.

You're picking on a sentence, and making it much more than his context meant it to be.

If I said "You have the freedom to ignore posters on DU" that isn't a "definition" of freedom, either.
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 01:26 PM
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4. Thank you (seriously)
I hope you won't put me on ignore either, but I genuinely do appreciate what you said. (And I was rather myopic; picking on a sentence and reading into it way too much.)

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 01:36 PM
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5. You're quite welcome.
I hope I didn't come off as pissed or annoyed, because I am neither. I'm just a "Big Picture, Broad View" fan! And I'm a freak for context.

I don't do "ignore" as a rule, either. I only have one person on ignore and that was because the person was behaving in an unmedicated fashion!

Who is that person in your sig line? it looks a little bit like .... Mike Nesbitt?
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 03:43 PM
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6. :)
Yup, 'tis Mike Nesmith. I nicked the image from the net; it's a still from "The Devil and Peter Tork" - awesome episode from season 2. Awesome image IMHO... :D


"unmedicated fashion" - :rofl:

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MADem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 04:09 PM
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7. Nesmith!!! I was close! Nesbitt, Nesmith...
That's one of those Monkee guys who was all the rage oh, a few decades back!

Wasn't that a long time ago!
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Dukkha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 04:13 PM
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8. I subscribe to Tyler Durden's idea of freedom
http://www.associatedcontent.com/article/433071/finding_your_own_tyler_durden.html

Who is Tyler Durden really? He is freedom; freedom from a society that dictates how you should live, what to wear, what to eat, how you should look, and how you should act. Want to be free? Want to be like Tyler Durden? Are you tired of living in a materialistic world being told what to buy, what to wear, and all that?

In a world where material things have taken control of who we are isn't it time we take back ourselves? We have to realize we will never look like what society says we should look. Not everyone will be rock stars, movie stars, or the ultra rich. Who are we? We are the working class that keep society running, we design the ads that tell us what we should look like, make the clothing that we are told to wear, cook the food that is making us the fattest society on the planet. We import the over rated mostly crappy products from other countries because we are now too good and want too much money to make ourselves which society will tell us we need to conform.
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