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davidswanson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 03:09 PM
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Against Truth, Reconciliation, and Commissions
House Judiciary Committee Chairman John Conyers has introduced a bill, H.R. 104, that would create a commission to spend a year and a half looking at the various crimes of Bush and Cheney. While this might allow congressional Democrats to run election campaigns against Bush and Cheney yet again, even though those two will have been out of office for two years, it's not clear that it would do much else that would be positive.

The problem with pursuing "truth" is that there are always more tantalizing details out of reach, and there always will be. We'll never know everything about what Bush and Cheney and gang have done to us. We should strive to learn all that we can, but that task should not distract us from the fact that the President of the United States openly confesses to authorizing torture, warrantless spying, and other crimes, ( http://afterdowningstreet.org/busharticles ) and that if a judicial and penal system is to have any deterrent value it is to be found in prosecuting and punishing crimes. Moreover, allowing publicly known crimes to go unpunished tends to have the opposite effect of encouraging future violations.

Those who suggest that we need to learn whether torture was authorized, for example, should read the recent report from the Robert Jackson Steering Committee ( http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/38812 ), read the recent report from the Senate Armed Services Committee ( http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/38200 ), or simply flip on a television ( http://afterdowningstreet.org/node/38895 ). A commission is not needed to unearth information for the sake of prosecutions, because sufficient information for conviction is already in the public realm. And if anything is likely to unearth more information, it is a prosecution.

A commission with no power to punish anyone except through shame is powerless in an age of shamelessness. The commission's subpoenas would be enforced through the courts, allowing the process to be dragged out well beyond a year and a half, or allowing witnesses to refuse compliance. All of this delay would simply serve to bolster claims that the crimes of the past eight years are unimportant because in the past. And if the commission offered criminal immunity to witnesses in order to entice them to testify, then its result would be permanently blocking prosecutions in the name of revealing the "truth."

Moving the powers of Congress, which refused to impeach, and the powers of the Justice Department, which may refuse to prosecute, to an unelected commission would divorce this project from both the will of the people and the laws of the land. Congress has effectively lost the power of subpoena by failing to use its inherent power of contempt to incarcerate recalcitrant witnesses. Relying on the courts and creating separate commissions designed to rely on the courts does nothing to restore the rightful powers of the first branch of our government. Instead, Congress should reissue all outstanding subpoenas (not just continue arguing in the courts for enforcement of the old ones), issue new ones as desired, and itself enforce any that the new Justice Department does not. If Senator Ron Wyden is serious about subpoenaing more torture evidence, he should make sure that his committee does so and enforces the subpoenas. This won't take a year and a half, but how ever long it does take should be of interest to historians more than prosecutors, who should move ahead immediately without awaiting any superfluous information.

A prosecutor should be "special" or "independent," because nonpartisanship is not the same as bipartisanship. A commission made up of hesitant Democrats and cut-throat Republicans does not place the law or democratic representation above partisan goals. A truly independent prosecutor would be loyal to the law, not the concerns of any party. If Obama wants to minimize Republicans calling him bad names he should create an independent prosecutor, not support a bi-partisan commission.

Fortunately, activist groups that have been lobbying congress members for a truth and reconciliation commission have been getting nowhere. The idea is incredibly unpopular in Congress. In fact, while 56 members of Congress support creating a special prosecutor, only 11 support creating a commission ( http://democrats.com/democrats-must-demand-special-prosecutor-for-torture ). And more visitors to President elect Obama's website support creating a special prosecutor than support anything else whatsoever ( http://change.gov ).

While our nation has needed some reconciliation for a generation or more, and while some of us support violations of the law if accompanied by fear mongering and some of us do not, we have not been fighting a civil war. We have not been slaughtering each other. We are not so overrun with criminals that no court system could possibly process them all. We are simply in a situation in which the top elected officials in the land and a few dozen of their top staff and advisors have committed gross violations of the law and, in most cases, documented their own crimes in writing. Should we be reconciled with that?

Would placing the law above the wishes of the least popular president and vice president in history, thereby responsibly limiting his own powers, be politically disadvantageous to the new president? If you believe that one, there's no amount of truth that can ever set you free.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 03:17 PM
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1. We don't need more CSPAN Theater. We need an investigation. n/t
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 07:16 AM
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4. Amen to that. When it's on C-Span and nowhere else,
Edited on Tue Jan-13-09 07:17 AM by mmonk
it's all being kept out of the limelight again and justice and the Constitution in the trash can.
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wizstars Donating Member (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 04:41 PM
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2. There needs to be a subpoena issued NOW!!! for every
scrap of paper in the Executive Branch, and EVERY e-mail, hard drive (intact) and disc. Otherwise, come 1/19, expect another "fire" in the EOB as they cover their <a55es>. We need to take charge of ALL of *'s papers, before he locks the evidence away in his "library".
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 04:57 PM
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3. I would K&R this post a thousand times if I could.
This is PRECISELY where our country has come to: TWO Americas. One for the rich and powerful, and one for the rest of us.

Our voices to our government DO. NOT. COUNT. They do not give a shit what the people cry out for!

They didn't vote against the war when we put tens of thousands in the streets.
They didn't de-fund the war when we put tens of thousands in the streets.
They did not punish bush & cheney for heinous acts against humanity and our constitution.
They did not create an election system that was fair and verifiable.
They did not vote against the bankruptcy bill, which millions of us protested.

And while I'm at it....name me a handful of regular joe american on the street people who SUPPORT (?????) NAFTA, CAFTA and all the other global trade agreements? EVERYONE, except big business, HATES the fucking trade bills. They screw the average American out of everything, including safe food & imports, for cryin' out loud!

So... do our elected officials represent US?? Hell no! I'm ready for a revolution. Obama isn't part of the change WE WANT. Just more of the cover-the-powerful-asses group, and let the "authority figures" be above the "law".

The law is only for us peasants.
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 03:08 PM
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5. It's very difficult to understand, and very disappointing to me that Obama doesn't seem more
interested in pursuing the Bush administration crimes and holding them accountable...

Oh, I forgot... Those crimes happened in the past.
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Jim Lane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 10:37 PM
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6. Prosecution better than commission but commission better than nothing
Given Obama's expressed commitment to "post-partisanship" and his more specific statements about Bushco crimes, I don't think we can expect to see any major prosecutions (i.e., no one even at the Libby level, let alone any higher). A commission report could at least be the basis for tough new legislation to close any loopholes or claimed loopholes in the law.

By the way, if there is a prosecution, why would we need a special prosecutor? The DoJ could handle it. The point of a special prosecutor is that an investigation of current officials could be hampered if regular DoJ employees are investigating their (direct or indirect) bosses. That wouldn't be a consideration here.

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