RIP VISTA. I think Windows 7 will eliminate Vista by Christmas

[DainBramaged]

which is why the beta ends August 9. Two days, it seems fine. I am going to waste an Office 2007 license on it tomorrow to try it's compatibility.

[rockymountaindem]

1. I thought it wasn't going to be released for years n/t

[DainBramaged]

4. It's called "Business rejects us, we'd better give mouth to mouth

to the cash cow".

[jefferson_dem]

2. I guess MSoft's silly PR repackaging of "Mojave" didn't work.

What's the deal with 7? Is it supposed to be the shiznit?

[DainBramaged]

3. It is (IMHO) what Shitsta should have been.

I did a whole deal on it Saturday, including install pictures. Thread is still up here.

[populistdriven]

7. streamlined DRM

[liberalmuse]

5. Well, I'm dealing with Leopard.

After a couple upgrades, it's all good. No more beach ball. I feel for you Vista users, though. Ouch! (how's that for a sanctimonious Mac user?)

[DainBramaged]

6. I bought an OLD Imac a couple of months ago to play with

it sits upsidedown behind me with the new CD drive (and cmos battery) in its cage waiting for my attention. It seemed ok.

[liberalmuse]

9. Oh, you'll love it.

There's a reason why normally rational humans fall in love with macs. They're so disgustingly simple!

[Fearless]

8. Alright already... Vista isn't a problem...

For home users, it works just fine. The ONLY problem presently with the OS is fact that it isn't slim and trim enough to work on older computers which by and large are used for corporate networks. That's all. Windows 7 is supposed to work better with these systems and additionally a new name puts to rest old, and false, fears for the home user. That's all.

[billyoc]

10. How will we know?

:shrug:

[endless october]

11. incredible that they released 7 this early.

[KG]

12. jesbus christ i hope so. vista is teh suxxors.

[originalpckelly]

17. Why does it cause problems for you?

Is it all those annoying pop-ups? If so, you can turn User Account Control off pretty easily.

Just go to the control panel, user accounts, and hit the Turn User Account Control On or Off option, and you'll be fine. If it's driver problems, I agree, I have to use XP for recoding music because Vista is too shitty for it to work with my recording interface.

[originalpckelly]

13. Windows 7 is just Vista 2.0 Let's Try Not To Fuck This Up Edition

[Gman]

14. If Win7 requires 50% of your RAM to run all the DRM whistles and bells

including checking to be sure your hardware meets their DRM specs, Win7 will die whither and die just like Vista.

I started experimenting with Linux when Vista was released. Linux has come light years in the short time since Vista was released. (Check out Linux MCE (Media Center Edition))

[Statistical]

26. Why?

Memory is getting cheaper every day. The large footprint in relative terms matters less.

2GB of ram (which is enough to run Vista fine) runs about $20 now. In wholesale it is even cheaper.

Price of ram falls by about 30% annually so 4GB of ram in a year will only cost a little more than 2GB does now.

By 2010 I expect to see this
2GB - bare bones entry level system (32 bit)
3GB - low end system (32 bit)
4GB - mainstream machines (64 bit)
6GB-8GB - high end machines (64 bit).

The difference between a Vista box w/ run 1 GB and 2 GB of ram is substantial.
4GB pretty soon will be best compromise between value and performance.

[ProgressiveProfessor]

15. Lets hope so...

I have been hoping to skip Vista and buying new hardware.

[Harry Monroe]

16. Geez, I'm still using XP...

...on my 4 year old laptop. I saw no need to upgrade to Vista. Now I'm glad I didn't, coz I can bypass what I heard was a piece of shit OS and go right to Windows 7 when I buy a new laptop.

[Muttocracy]

20. I hunted for a laptop with XP as they were stopping selling it

and now I'm doubly glad I can bypass Vista too!

[DainBramaged]

23. I'm bumping my test system up to 2 gb ram today (I am home sick)

and I'm going to load an older game to see how it plays on it.

[Phred42]

18. Glad I missed it - Do the Vista suckers get a free 'upgrade'

[EOTE]

24. If you purchase a machine with Vista on it from January to July of 09,

then you'll get a free upgrade to Windows 7. However, the experience I've had with Vista (x64 on my folks' machine and Home Premium on my laptop) has been fairly problem free for the past few years.

[Better Believe It]

19. If you have a good CPU Vista works fine.

I haven't had any problems. I love Vista!

But if you have an old sluggish CPU Vista isn't for you.

My CPU is Intel Core 2 Quad with 3gb Ram and that seems adequate.

[Solon]

21. A few days ago, I went to a buddy's house to troubleshoot his laptop...

he bought in last February and it was freezing on him. So I looked at it, and it was a Dell that had Vista preinstalled on it. The kicker was this, it had 768 MB of RAM in it. I opened up the task manager, and looked at available Memory, he had, total, 20 MB unused in RAM after Vista boots up, I'm not shitting you. After I went and uninstalled a shitload of programs, and messed around with the startup settings, I was able to free up about another 20 MB of ram. Vista takes up the rest, a whopping 720 MB of RAM, just to run. By the way, his laptop is slow as hell. I'll see if he wants it wiped and for me to put Linux or XP on it.

Oh, and Windows Update REFUSES to work on the thing, I tried everything possible, it just refuses to work. :grr:

[DainBramaged]

22. Windows 7 used 530MB ram, and there is a fix for Windows update

http://blogs.msdn.com/astebner/archive/2009/01/09/9303167.aspx

And adding memory to bring it to 2GB will help loads. Www.crucial.com runs a tool that determines what memory your system can hold and then points you to cheapest upgrade.

[Statistical]

25. Yup. More memory would make a world of difference.

RAM is insanely cheap right now.

2x 1GB sticks run about $20 - $30 total.
Most computers in last 2-3 years use DDR2, PC-6400 (400Mhz).

A $20 investment would make his computer run substantially faster.
Literally run like a new machine.

It is kinda strange/stupid how much retail computers shortchange RAM (such a low priced part) and then load up on crap that consumer doesn't need.

[Muttocracy]

28. before I bought my laptop I asked some ?s in the computer forum

and the helpful DUers there warned me if I got Vista to get gobs of memory - and that manufacturers were putting Vista on machines that didn't have enough. I went with XP instead ;)

[DainBramaged]

27. CCleaner works fine, ALL files on an old thumb drive are viewable

WIN98, old versions of Office, XP, ME they all show up now, none of that elitist Vista snobbery.

[Stinky The Clown]

29. Last year, this might have excited me .......

..... this year .......