Murderers should be placed in prison...

[ZombieHorde]

Poll question: Murderers should be placed in prison...

The option; "Both as punishment, and to protect the public.", was intentionally left out.

This is a punishment vs. protection poll, with a choice for anarchists.

[NightWatcher]

1. I favor the "protection model" for the penal system

but incapacitation serves both "protection" and "retribution". I am anti death penalty because that does not provide general deterence for the public and life without parole would incapacitate (protect and provide specific deterence).

[Veritas_et_Aequitas]

2. What about genuine efforts at reforming prisoners

through education and job training?

[ZombieHorde]

3. That is important.

I did not think of it because this poll was inspired by a hate crime debate on another thread. Rehabilitating bigots would be difficult, but a worthy endeavor in my opinion.

Some people believe that some criminals, such as pedophiles, can not be rehabilitated.

[Occam Bandage]

9. I believe that rehabilitating certain types of sex criminals is generally not possible.

I am in favor, therefore, of either indefinite imprisonment in a minimum-security institution, or in chemical or physical castration with a shorter sentence, with the option being provided to the offender.

[stillcool]

4. yeah..I remember that...

rehabilitation...haven't heard about it in years. I guess the Private Prison Industry doesn't do that.

[stillcool]

5. I think we have to start killing..

some of these people. Preferably when their young and first start exhibiting anti-social behavior and emotional instability. Perhaps we can take their parents out too. Generation Kill.

[ZombieHorde]

6. So, choice #3 for you?

[stillcool]

10. I can't make up my mind...

people love sending other people to prison, and I'd hate to take that joy away from them.

[ZombieHorde]

11. DeSade argued that you should never harm people as a punishment, including prisons,

you should only harm people for sadistic pleasure.

[stillcool]

12. unfortunately..

anything that resembles the truth is strictly verboten. But any excuse will do.

[ZombieHorde]

13. Bwahahahahaa!

[Occam Bandage]

7. Both to prevent individual murderers from killing again, and for the deterrent effect

that imprisonment for crimes causes. Both fall under "protecting the public," I think. Pure punishment, I think, has nothing to do with it.

(Edit: I think rehabilitation is an important part of the equation too, but one that isn't quite covered by the OP)

[TheKentuckian]

8. To protect the public and rehabilitate the prisoner (if at all possible)

is the best answer for me.

Punishment is not a important concern other than how it may help the offender to make real changes.

[ellisonz]

14. Except when they're law enforcers.

[ZombieHorde]

15. Are you referring to the BART cop?

The one who shot the handcuffed man lying on the ground and being restrained by other officers?

[ellisonz]

17. There are a lot more cases than that...

[mike_c]

16. or soldiers murdering for American imperialism....

eom

[ellisonz]

18. Oh Philippines...

[Pithlet]

19. Edit. nevermind.