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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 10:50 PM
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Kick & rec if you are still a Democrat!
:bounce:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 10:51 PM
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1. Score one for Oasis!
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 10:52 PM
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2. Unfortunately, I don't think that Lounge threads end up on the front page. n/t
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Veritas_et_Aequitas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 10:52 PM
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3. Not a democrat, never was. But I am a sympathizer.
So I guess I can just give this a good ol' kick.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 08:58 AM
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21. I'll keep that in mind when I read your posts.
:*
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 10:55 PM
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4. Kick and rec. Well, that was easy! n/t
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 11:00 PM
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5. I happily got yer back
:kick:
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 11:01 PM
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6. I'll kick, but I won't Rec threads that have to ask for Recs.
A thread should get Recs on its merits. I think that asking for Recs just cheapens the process and it's way overdone.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 11:14 PM
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9. Thanks for the kick.
Maybe the kick will lead to someone else giving a rec!
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 12:51 AM
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14. You are quite welcome and it is nice to see you can appreciate half a loaf
when you cannot get the whole thing. That is sometimes lacking here.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 11:06 PM
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7. I am a DFA Democrat, NOT a DNC or DLC Democrat. n/t
Edited on Mon Jan-12-09 11:06 PM by IanDB1
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 11:12 PM
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8. Thank you for rec'ing the thread anyways.
YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES YES!
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 09:49 PM
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66. You are not entitled to demand that people prove their party loyalty.
You have no greater claim to party loyalty AND no greater claim to political effectiveness and wisdom than anybody else.

This thread insults DU'ers for no reason.
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 11:15 PM
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10. I am, and damn proud of it. Screw the whiners. nt
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 09:31 PM
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62. Disagreeing with the DLC is not "whining".
People like you and LoZo are not the official arbiters of "Democraticness" or "Democraticity" or whatever. It's not your place to simply dismiss views you disagree with.

You could actually try making a case for your own position, and debating issues on the merits. You are not entitled to act as if you're inherently more Democratic or more authoritative than anybody else. You and LoZo are just two voices among many. You don't speak for any more Dems than anybody else here.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 03:12 PM
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80. In fact, exposing DLC-corporatism should be required ....!!!
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yellowdogintexas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 11:21 PM
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11. Always. nt
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 11:23 PM
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12. K&R
Ya gotta be in it to win it.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-12-09 11:50 PM
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13. I'm an American first.
Democrat more or less by default.
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 01:58 AM
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15. American first, true; but a Democrat for 40 years. And if we Dems can manage to...
... refrain from snatching defeat from the jaws of victory in 2009, we might be able to help President Barack Obama restore this country.

Hekate


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JANdad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 02:49 AM
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16. I love how much thought
you put into your OP's...truly remarkable...

If I may make a suggestion for your next one: K&R if you wipe your ass towards the back of the toilet...
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 04:17 AM
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17. ....
:rofl:

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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 08:56 AM
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20. And you, Do you wipe from right to left or left to right?
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kenfrequed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:13 PM
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39. Hah
Yeah, I really think these stupid cheerleader posts are annoying.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 08:42 AM
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18. Hell yeah! I am not a fair weather person!
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 08:55 AM
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19. Left of left!
:bounce:
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 09:01 AM
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22. Always and forever
:dem: :dem: :dem: :dem: :dem: :dem:
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BzaDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 09:07 AM
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23. K & R.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 09:14 AM
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24. "OMG!!! K&R If you think we're awesome!!!!!!" I'm so fucking tired of these empty posts.
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 10:01 AM
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25. The Democratic party is complicit in every crime that has occurred in the past 8 years
but I get the need to belong thing. Just not for me.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 11:29 AM
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26. Sounds like burying the hatchet! n/t
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 12:50 PM
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30. the hatchet is intended to be buried in the figurative chest cavity of fascists and DLCers
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 12:53 PM
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31. Should have named yourself "brandish the hatchet." nt
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burythehatchet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 01:11 PM
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32. burythehatchet seems to be working without problems thus far, but I will file your
recommendation for future reference.
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NoPasaran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 11:46 AM
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27. Hell yes, I'm still a Democrat!
:dem:
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 11:48 AM
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28. I'm still registered to that wing of the one party corporate state
Edited on Tue Jan-13-09 11:48 AM by mdmc
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 01:41 PM
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76. Me too. More's the pity. nt
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 11:51 AM
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29. A proud Democrat here!
I have great hopes for Obama, especially after reading his book The Audacity of Hope.
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 01:18 PM
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33. Still a Democrat (since '65) and still owe the party no fealty.
"I never submitted the whole system of my opinions to the creed of any party of men whatever, in religion, in philosophy, in politics, or in anything else, where I was capable of thinking for myself. Such an addiction is the last degradation of a free and moral agent. If I could not go to heaven but with a party, I would not go there at all." --Thomas Jefferson to Francis Hopkinson, 1789.

"Were parties here divided merely by a greediness for office,...to take a part with either would be unworthy of a reasonable or moral man." --Thomas Jefferson to William Branch Giles, 1795.

“Always vote for principle, though you may vote alone, you may cherish the sweetest reflection that your vote is never lost." --John Quincy Adams
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 01:20 PM
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34. kick
yes I am.
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mistertrickster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 01:51 PM
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35. David Frum called me on the phone yesterday. I'm just an ordinary guy
in nowheresville, but because I organized a little event for Obama's Day of Service, this hotshot called me up and asked me if I needed help.

Dudes and Dudettes, I don't know of any other administration that ever cultivated us net-roots types like this in-coming one is.

Obama and his people are really living their ideals of letting the people bring change to Washington.
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 02:46 PM
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37. Wow that deserves its own thread!
Edited on Tue Jan-13-09 02:46 PM by LoZoccolo
You should post it! That sounds cool!
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 07:58 PM
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51. LoZocolo is absolutley right- This story deserves an OP! n/t
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cabbage08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 01:54 PM
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36. Kick
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John Q. Citizen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 04:21 PM
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38. I'm getting appointed tonight to Dem precinct person at the county central committee meeting. It's
Edited on Tue Jan-13-09 04:21 PM by John Q. Citizen
but one way i can exert pressure on Obama to force him as far to left as is humanly possible and to completely and utterly destroy the corporate centrists who would sell us out to DLC mediocrity.

So yeah, you have to be a Democrat to get appointed.

I mean, they aren't appointing Republicans, but you could fool me sometimes with the blue dogs that show up from time to time.

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Political Tiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 05:15 PM
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40. Always have been!
My momma didn't raise no fool!
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 06:26 PM
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41. This K and R "if" shit has gotten old
Too bad if you dont like my OPINION
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ulysses Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 06:28 PM
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42. done!
Now what? :)
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 06:51 PM
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43. Damn straight, and f*ck the haters! nt
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stox Donating Member (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 07:17 PM
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44. Still a proud Democrat
I'm just not sure how many members of Congress really are.
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.... callchet .... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 07:40 PM
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45. Now and Always
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Mark E. Smith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 07:41 PM
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46. Rec
There is no other party worthy of my support.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 07:42 PM
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47. Now, Yesterday, and Forever.
My parents had Democratic values, and they instilled them in me, and I believe in them. And I can't relate to all the crying and moaning that goes on here.
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Mike 03 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 07:44 PM
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48. BTW, I'm breaking my rule. I ordinarily would never rec or kick a thread that asked me to
kick and rec.

This is different. Kick this one to high heaven.
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.... callchet .... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 07:56 PM
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50. Help
new, what does k & r mean
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 08:04 PM
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52. It means "Kick And Recommend"
You can "Rec" at the bottom left of the Opening Post and by replying to an OP you "Kick" it up to the top of the board.

Hope that explains it.

Welcome to DU
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.... callchet .... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 08:09 PM
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53. Thanks
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stlsaxman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 07:51 PM
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49. K & R I'll never be otherwise.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 08:21 PM
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54. K & R A *LIBERAL* Democrat. with the emphasis on *LIBERAL* n/t
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DevonRex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 08:23 PM
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55. Yep. Proud Democrat here. :)
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 08:23 PM
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56. Of course. My first vote was for Carter in 1980.
I get to the booth and look for the Ds.
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truthspout Donating Member (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 08:44 PM
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57. What?
Here are the vote breakdowns by party over the last couple years on the most significant and contentious pieces of legislation, particularly (though not only) in the area of national security.

In almost every case, the proposals that are enacted are ones favored by the White House and supported by all GOP lawmakers, and then Democrats split and enough of them join with Republicans to ensure that the GOP gets what it wants. That's "bipartisanhip" in Washington:

To support the new Bush-supported FISA law:

GOP - 48-0

Dems - 12-36

To compel redeployment of troops from Iraq:

GOP - 0-49

Dems - 24-21

To confirm Michael Mukasey as Attorney General:

GOP - 46-0

Dems - 7-40

To confirm Leslie Southwick as Circuit Court Judge:

GOP - 49-0

Dems - 8-38

Kyl-Lieberman Resolution on Iran:

GOP - 46-2

Dems - 30-20

To condemn MoveOn.org:

GOP - 49-0

Dems - 23-25

The Protect America Act:

GOP - 44-0

Dems - 20-28

Declaring English to be the Government's official language:

GOP - 48-1

Dems - 16-33

The Military Commissions Act:

GOP - 53-0

Dems - 12-34

To renew the Patriot Act:

GOP - 54-0

Dems - 34-10

Cloture Vote on Sam Alito's confirmation to the Supreme Court:

GOP - 54-0

Dems - 18-25

Authorization to Use Military Force in Iraq:

GOP - 48-1

Dems - 29-22

On virtually every major controversial issue -- particularly, though not only, ones involving national security and terrorism -- the Republicans (including their vaunted mythical moderates and mavericks) vote in almost complete lockstep in favor of the President, the Democratic caucus splits, and the Republicans then get their way on every issue thanks to "bipartisan" support. That's what "bipartisanship" in Washington means.

- Glenn Greenwald

Ahhhhh, gotta love them democrats ... right ? gimme a break. What makes the blind right wing followers different from the blind left wing followers?

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bvar22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 10:47 PM
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73. Nice compilation.
Edited on Tue Jan-13-09 10:54 PM by bvar22
:thumbsup:

You could extend the analysis to Economic Issues. (Like CAFTA, Bankruptcy Reform, and WAR Appropriations))
There are always just enough "Democrats" who cross over and vote with the Republicans to ensure that the Republican Economic Agenda always gets advanced.


"There are forces within the Democratic Party who want us to sound like kinder, gentler Republicans. I want us to compete for that great mass of voters that want a party that will stand up for working Americans, family farmers, and people who haven't felt the benefits of the economic upturn."---Paul Wellstone





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bonito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 08:51 PM
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58. What about cosmopolitans
We don't take sides but are along are with the ride?
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Bryan Sacks Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 08:55 PM
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59. I see you've gotten more inane over the years. Pity that n/t
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jdadd Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 09:17 PM
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60. K & R
:kick:
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Ken Burch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 09:26 PM
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61. K&R
And everything I've posted is BECAUSE I'm a Democrat.

(But, really LoZo, it's not your place to make people PROVE their loyalty. Even Joe McCarthy packed it in on that one decades ago.)
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trickyguy Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 09:35 PM
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63. Progressive, man, progressive.
:think:
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TankLV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 09:40 PM
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64. Yes - altho I'm not happy with everything, but things are certainly better than the past eight years
Edited on Tue Jan-13-09 09:42 PM by TankLV
Now to UP the pressure for progressive issues and limit the damage from obama's apeasement to repukes and neoCONS...

Democrat all my life so far...officially since I was 18 in '70.
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Glorfindel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 09:42 PM
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65. Yes, and proud of it
My first vote was for LBJ when I was 18. I have never NOT been a Democrat, and Lord willing, I always will be.
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AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 09:50 PM
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67. Last I looked...
OMG!!!... oh wait, yeah, I am! XD
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Dem_in_Nebr. Donating Member (48 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 09:53 PM
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68. Pardon my language but . . .
WTF else am I going to be??

;-)

K&R
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 09:59 PM
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69. Always have been
Always.
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NorthCarolina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 10:01 PM
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70. I'm a Progressive *Democrat*
sadly there is no party for me right now.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 01:42 PM
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77. I feel ya. I'm a progressive Populist. Might as well be a woolly mammoth. nt
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iandhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 10:29 PM
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71. hell yes
When I agree with Obama's policy he has my FULL support when I disagree I will make my opinion known.
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 10:47 PM
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72. I'm a LIFER,..my family comes from a long line of LIFERS.
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madamesilverspurs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 10:55 PM
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74. Is "hellyes" a word?
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LoZoccolo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 10:56 PM
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75. WE MADE #1 ON THE FRONT PAGE! n/t
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Runcible Spoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 02:18 PM
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78. woman, daughter, sister, fiancee, American, NYer, equestrian, social welfare/
animal welfare/economic justice advocate, scholar, student, etc. etc. first. The letter next to the people I vote into office probably comes up somewhere around #20.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 02:39 PM
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79. I'm a small "d" democrat -- with a free mind --
Edited on Wed Jan-14-09 03:11 PM by defendandprotect
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