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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 01:42 AM Original message |
Contraception next on list of forbidden things? Next slide down slope for women's rights? |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 01:47 AM Response to Original message |
1. You've heard of Catholics before, right? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 01:48 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. That deserves no comments. |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 10:28 AM Response to Reply #2 |
19. Self delete. |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 05:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
13. I know some catholic countries are anti abortion |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #13 |
34. They're the ones where the church gets what it wants. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #1 |
41. Pope went before Italian government a few years sgo ... |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 01:53 AM Response to Original message |
3. Is The Ruling Class afraid they're running out of uh...'american' babies? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 01:57 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. Thanks, I think there is something to that theory. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 03:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
11. No, just consumers. nt |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
5. El Salvador is a hard-core Catholic country. While I'm sympathetic to your concern about the issue.. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:04 AM Response to Reply #5 |
7. You must not have read my OP carefully. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:21 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I did, I just don't agree with it |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:27 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. That is your right. Then those of us who care must worry. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 03:03 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Just because I disagree with you doesn't mean I didn't read it carefully. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #7 |
36. Dems recruited 12 anti-choicers who don't believe in birth control. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:38 PM Response to Reply #7 |
43. Happening very quietly...... |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
39. I think the comparison is spot on. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 05:47 PM Response to Reply #39 |
77. Your key word, "yet". Just not "yet". |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #5 |
59. "El Salvador is a hard-core Catholic country" That's a statement that |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
6. Too many people already. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 04:19 AM Response to Original message |
12. and people think Scientology has an exclusive on nuttiness? |
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OneBlueSky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 06:50 AM Response to Original message |
14. so what's next? . . . prohibiting masturbation? . . . |
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Wednesdays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 08:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
17. Don't laugh, it can be done |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
44. Well . .. first comes the brainwashing . . . the mental clitorectomy . . . |
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JustAnotherGen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 07:04 AM Response to Original message |
15. rec |
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PCIntern (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 07:15 AM Response to Original message |
16. Pat Buchanan had mentioned this 20 years ago on Crossfire... |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
18. Please, oh please, let this be their next big push |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:40 PM Response to Reply #18 |
45. It will happen very quietly in Congress . . . public will be informed; that's all... |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:53 PM Response to Reply #45 |
53. It's not gonna happen. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. OK . .. we'll take your word for it -- guaranteed! Hope you're right! |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 04:41 PM Response to Reply #55 |
70. Even the Repub majority |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 05:29 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. You can't ban birth control before you ban abortion . . . |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 03:30 PM Response to Reply #73 |
101. All you have to do is ban abortion, and then label some forms of birth control "abortificants". |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
20. Will men realize they have a stake in all this too? |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 08:04 PM Response to Reply #20 |
104. You make a good point. |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
21. Not everyone who takes BC does it to prevent pregnancies |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 10:45 AM Response to Reply #21 |
22. Do you think the fundangelicals care |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 10:54 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Most don't care what the fundangelicals think |
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MountainLaurel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 12:51 PM Response to Reply #23 |
27. I'm glad you're sure |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #27 |
29. I've been around medicine long enough to not let them bother me. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 03:41 PM Response to Reply #29 |
60. How do you feel about the Dem congress denying Plan B to military women? |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #60 |
68. So I guess that means this is a dead issue |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 05:49 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. I am not at all sure what you disagree with me on. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #23 |
46. When Fundis move into government, anything can be taken away . . . |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:43 PM Response to Reply #46 |
47. That's because people don't know how to fight |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. We don't know "how to fight" . . .???? |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #51 |
52. You make my point, there is a huge difference between corporatists and fundis |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:55 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. Not so much difference . . . |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #54 |
58. Again all fundies don't think the same |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 03:56 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. "Banning all forms of birth control is not a popular opinion even among fundies" |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 04:10 PM Response to Reply #64 |
66. I stand by what I said |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 05:25 PM Response to Reply #66 |
72. Well... |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Tenacious D, lol |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 11:55 PM Response to Reply #74 |
89. How did you feel when the Dems did not bring the vote up for military |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 01:04 AM Response to Reply #74 |
91. Of course my opinion ... |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #91 |
97. I'm not worried about it |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 02:36 PM Response to Reply #97 |
99. The idea is to ... |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 04:29 PM Response to Reply #99 |
102. You're going to awaken me? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 11:37 PM Response to Reply #102 |
108. If you don't see injustice ... |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 09:14 AM Response to Reply #108 |
109. cya |
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Ladyhawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 08:26 PM Response to Reply #66 |
106. As an ex-fundy, I can tell you that fundies are fundies because they DO think alike. |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 09:16 AM Response to Reply #106 |
110. Many have a different interpretation on what the Mind of Christ is |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #21 |
30. Good reminders. |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. Yours is a very important point, one that needs to be emphasized |
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ellacott (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 03:59 PM Response to Reply #33 |
65. Wow |
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ljm2002 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 09:41 PM Response to Reply #33 |
86. What a frightening story... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 01:54 AM Response to Reply #33 |
93. I had no idea they were doing that --- |
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FloriTexan (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 04:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
69. True and... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 05:51 PM Response to Reply #69 |
79. Very true. And those against it for religious reasons don't consider that |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 02:03 AM Response to Reply #69 |
95. It's also helpful for endometriosis. |
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fudge stripe cookays (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 08:15 PM Response to Reply #69 |
105. Me too, FT |
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FloriTexan (481 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #105 |
111. My first one... |
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pipi_k (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
98. That's true... |
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LeftinOH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 11:17 AM Response to Original message |
24. Contraception-bans have alway been the runner-up (after abortion) issue..n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
25. Straight Story just posted an example from Dallas County about condoms. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
26. I know people who call many contraceptive methods "abortion" |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 01:08 PM Response to Original message |
28. WE TOLD YOU SO. (Back in the 90s) |
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sallyseven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
31. All women should practice abstinence |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. So you haven't heard the latest: According to "Dr." Laura and Dennis Prager, women should |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:13 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. "whore themselves out"? |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #37 |
57. Attacking the extremes. |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
35. That has always been the goal of abortion proponents. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #35 |
61. You mean abortion opponents, right? nt |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 03:53 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Oops! Yup, that's what I meant. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. Phew. Either that, or I was really confused! nt |
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Mithreal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
38. Democrats are compromising us to death, poverty, and depression. nt |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
49. Agree --- |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
40. people who think that will happen obviously didn't learn the lessons of prohibition. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:44 PM Response to Reply #40 |
48. You'd be amazed at how quickly birth control could be removed . . . |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 05:38 PM Response to Reply #48 |
75. I had a conversation with my OB/GYN in which he disclosed |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 06:20 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. the public wouldn't stand for birth control being taken away... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 06:42 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. The public will stand for anything. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 06:46 PM Response to Reply #81 |
82. maybe in florida... |
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Lars39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #82 |
83. I'm in TN...the GOP has both houses and are looking to settle in for |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 10:16 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. if they take away rubbers, diaphragms and the pill, they might find themselves unsettled. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 01:42 AM Response to Reply #75 |
92. Agree . . . |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #40 |
50. Did you read how the Dems did not provide emergency contraception to military women? |
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AlCzervik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 02:29 PM Response to Original message |
42. meanwhile the penis pump and viagra are covered by medicare. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 08:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
85. Ok...I knew Viagra was covered by Medicare. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 01:57 AM Response to Reply #42 |
94. What about the pill -- isn't that getting very expensive??? |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 03:00 PM Response to Original message |
56. Women haters |
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saracat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 03:54 PM Response to Original message |
63. Another vitally important piece to be considered. Bravo! |
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Leftest (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
67. Who's Killed More People In This World? |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 08:34 PM Response to Reply #67 |
84. They're certainly up there in the top two by my reckoning, Leftest. But I'm giving first place |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
76. Stop worrying! Centrists will "co-opt" these crusading anti-feminists by reaching out to them |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 10:29 PM Response to Reply #76 |
88. Good comment. |
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Mister Ed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-13-09 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
90. And if you were too tired to have sex with your spouse tonight, well that's murder too. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
96. Saying feminine birth control is murder shows this SB minister to have absolutely no knowledge of |
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timtom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
100. SBC and the widespread judgmentalism |
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MasonJar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 07:06 PM Response to Original message |
103. There is one sure way to eliminate these egregious intrusions on women's |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 06:19 PM Response to Reply #103 |
114. A farcical play written by a man for an audience of men... |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jan-14-09 08:35 PM Response to Original message |
107. Remember ladies: |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
112. Let's take this to the logical conclusion |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
113. My ovaries are mine, they belong to nobody else, certainly nor Southern Baptists! |
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