The right responds to Gitmo closure news

[meegbear]

Not everyone is happy about the news that President-elect Barack Obama will, as one of his first official acts, sign an executive order closing the military prison at Guantanamo Bay. One conservative group, Move America Forward, is actually organizing a petition drive aimed at keeping it open.

In an e-mail, MAF 's Melanie Morgan, a former radio host, writes:

This radical plan is naïve, dangerous to Americans, counter-productive for national security, and insulting to our troops at Gitmo who exhibit perfect professionalism. We won’t take it lying down.

The only reason for closing Gitmo is to make leftists and some European countries feel better. They have fallen for the tripe that liberals and their cohorts in the media have spread about our troops and the facility. That and they may just truly hate America.

Well I have seen firsthand the conditions in which these dangerous men live. They live in a climate-controlled, state-of-the-art prison with floors clean enough to eat off of. They watch movies while relaxing on an overstuffed sofa; they have six meal plans from which to choose what they eat; they are called to prayer five times a day as proscribed in their Muslim faith; they have three medical personnel for EACH terrorist.

And let’s not forget: Not one American has been charged with a crime for the handling of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay. There’s nothing to suggest that anything approaching a crime has taken place there. We know that our military brings to justice those who break the law within their ranks. So, if something happened that was so bad in Gitmo, why hasn’t anybody been charged? Because NO LAWS WERE BROKEN!

I am outraged at the lies that have been spread about Gitmo and the work of our troops. If Obama foolishly chooses to close Gitmo and ship radical jihadists to America, he is saying that our troops haven’t done their jobs, or worse, that they’ve committed atrocities. That’s outrageous, but it seems that to him the feelings of left-wingers mean more than America’s safety or the honor of our military.

:eyes:

http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2009/01/13/maf_gitmo/index.html

[Ron Green]

1. There are only Fear and Love, you know. And Fear is easy, while

Love is very difficult. Right wingers are lazy, aren't they?

[Hydra]

3. Right wingers prefer not to think

They'd rather believe that our government would never do anything wrong.

Don't bother with evidence to the contrary- it upsets their worldview.

[arcadian]

7. That's what I don't get.

I thought right-wingers hated the government. That they hated big governemnt. Conspiracy theories about governemnt were born on the right. Why do they defend these actions of the dictator Bush? You would think they would be the ones most pissed off.

[Hydra]

8. Because they benefit

Consider that most of Bush's supporters are radical churchgoers(And there are a disturbing number of them). These people believe that more laws, more regulation of people is a good thing as long as those laws agree with the Bible. After all, all humans are corrupt and must be managed by a heavy hand.

When their churches benefit, they feel like they benefit. My grandparents were like this, even though they were union supporters at one time. One of their favorite rants was that "They took the prayers out of school, and everything went to Hell."

Despite the variety of weirdness, there is a fairly common thread that runs through RW dogma- lack of accountability both for their own actions and for the actions of people like them. Everything done is done in the name of "A higher power or a higher purpose," whether it's war, economic voodoo, torture, spying or anything else.

We have our own version of it, too. "He's our Democrat, leave him alone!"

[hamsterjill]

12. Great Explanation!

You are exactly right.

The only comment I would add to your description of Right Wingers is that they fear others who believe differently than they do. They want only to be around people of like minds because doing that re-enforces their belief that they, themselves, are correct.

[Hydra]

14. You're correct

And more, they FEAR the very idea that people don't think like they do...and that's not even getting into how crazy they get when someone else's idea works and theirs doesn't.

One of the scariest RWers I've ever met talked about how difference in thought was the greatest threat to America. She honestly thought that if we all thought and said the same things, that everything would be perfect...

:puke:

[Winterblues]

9. Conservatives brag that they would rather be feared than loved

Israel seems to believe that as well.

[Hydra]

2. They can sit down and shut up

Like they told us to do for the last 8 years.

"We have the votes!" They said. Never mind that they were lying.

Well, even with the election fraud, they can't even summon enough votes to support their position.

NO MORE LIES.

[Solly Mack]

4. ....

"And let’s not forget: Not one American has been charged with a crime for the handling of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay. There’s nothing to suggest that anything approaching a crime has taken place there. We know that our military brings to justice those who break the law within their ranks. So, if something happened that was so bad in Gitmo, why hasn’t anybody been charged? Because NO LAWS WERE BROKEN!"

[BattyDem]

5. This one is priceless:

And let’s not forget: Not one American has been charged with a crime for the handling of prisoners in Guantanamo Bay. There’s nothing to suggest that anything approaching a crime has taken place there. We know that our military brings to justice those who break the law within their ranks. So, if something happened that was so bad in Gitmo, why hasn’t anybody been charged? Because NO LAWS WERE BROKEN!

Fine, pal ... but take a look at the whole picture:

Let's not forget that not one prisoner has been charged with a crime. There’s nothing to suggest that anything approaching a crime has taken place. We know that our country brings to justice those who break the law, so if something happened that was so bad, why hasn’t anybody being held at Gitmo been charged? Maybe because NO LAWS WERE BROKEN!


edited: typo :blush:

[bluestateguy]

6. It's not patriotic to criticize the commander in chief during a war

That is what you have been saying Melanie for the last 7 years, correct?

[ezgoingrl]

10. Gosh,

I just hate to see anyone so upset. Breaks my heart.:sarcasm:

[StreetKnowledge]

11. To these people: Let's see you would like being detained for six years

without any charges at all. Get back to me then.

Idiots. :eyes:

[The Icon Painter]

13. Proscribed?

"they are called to prayer five times a day as proscribed in their Muslim faith; "

Would it not be considered bad treatment to expose these poor prisoners five times each day to a practice their faith forbids?

Are all right-wingers illiterate morans?