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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 06:36 PM
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Dangerous coding errors revealed (BBC)
The US National Security Agency has helped put together a list of the world's most dangerous coding mistakes.

The 25 entry list contains errors that can lead to security holes or vulnerable areas that can be targeted by cyber criminals.

Experts say many of these errors are not well understood by programmers.

According to the SANS Institute in Maryland, just two of the errors led to more than 1.5m web site security breaches during 2008.

It is thought that this is the first time the industry has reached agreement on the worst things that can creep into software as it is being written.
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more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/7824939.stm
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 06:56 PM
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1. Interesting.
But, why do I get the feeling that the NSA that is currently in place can't be trusted?

Aren't they the same ones behind the infamous room 641A?


Now they're giving out advice on which coding "errors" should be included in all software?
"Then we need to make sure every programming team has processes in place to find and fix these problems and has the tools needed to verify their code is as free of these errors,"


Maybe I'm paranoid, but I wouldn't trust these guys to be giving advice that wouldn't allow for less security and more spying.

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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 08:34 PM
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3. Er, it's advice on which errors should be *excluded*
Every one on that list is a Bad Thing securitywise. You read the article completely backwards.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 09:45 PM
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5. Maybe I was being paranoid ...
... what I meant was that the code used to "solve" the problem contains a future, as yet undiscovered problem.

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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:13 AM
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6. They aren't suggesting specific code
The stuff being suggested really is the equivalent of "don't tape your key to your front door." Folks can implement that however they want, and will have no choice but to implement it in a variety of different ways anyway.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 04:56 AM
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8. Okay, that makes sense. Thank you. n/t
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lelgt60 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 07:49 PM
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2. There's nothing new here...
These are well understood, well known, and legitimate errors. They're also pretty generic. Nothing specific, or secret, etc.

Unfortunately, programming is hard. Even when you are aware of the issues, you can make the mistake. So many details...

Many things can be caught with other validation software, or good reviews, but still...
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EvolveOrConvolve Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-13-09 08:58 PM
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4. The list is a joke
The issues are all generic, bland descriptions of broad errors that can open systems to hackers. It's like having a list of the most dangerous parts of your house in regards to burglary and saying that an "unlocked front door" is the most dangerous situation. As a software engineer, some of these things are very, very basic.

Unfortunately, the fact that a list even has to be published shows how ignorant many systems and software developers are.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-14-09 12:14 AM
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7. Basic, but a basic programming error bricked a few zillion Zunes two weeks ago (nt)
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