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kitkat65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:42 AM
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Will the rat poison in the dog food finally open Americans' eye to the dangers
of outsourcing so much of our economy to China and other countries? Forget the economy - how about national security?

On the news last night they were talking about all the airplane parts imported from China. WTF?

I hate to sound so paranoid but really . . .
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tk2kewl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:44 AM
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1. nope
it will take a few thousand human deaths
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:45 AM
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4. And OIL must be involved...
a few thousands deaths dont mean squat unless it threatens a large business interest.

We'd be outraged over smoking deaths or influenza deaths or obesity by your orignal logic...
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:56 AM
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13. And a MAJOR depression
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:44 AM
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2. No
No its just dogs and cats. They dont have souls so they will not get any right-wing attention.

Personally, I'm upset. I'm so glad my dog was not impacted and feel bad for other whose pets are sick or have suffered kidney damage.
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bryant69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:45 AM
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3. Nope - one world one peace
Bryant
Check it out --> http://politicalcomment.blogspot.com
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thethinker Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:46 AM
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5. It has been a week since
they recalled the pet food. They still haven't told us what is in it that is killing pets.

They suspect wheat gluten. They haven't said what company made the wheat gluten. That wheat gluten is used in making all kinds of food for people also. Was it sold to any other companies? I just can't understand why they haven't told us more.

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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:48 AM
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7. They have. It was rat poison. It was on the wheat, which was imported from china.
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thethinker Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:55 AM
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12. Where did you read this?
Do you have link?
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:59 AM
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16. here on DU. There are three links on the greatest page today.
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:56 AM
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14. I've been following this closely and not seen that: link, please
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:59 AM
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15. click on greatest today here on DU. there are 3 such articles.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 11:00 AM
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18. here's a link:
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soothsayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 11:08 AM
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19. lol, you're posting in a thread on the very subject!
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:47 AM
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6. The food came from a Kansas plant I believe
IN the middle of wheat country USA, which exports huge amounts of wheat every year, the wheat is imported. It's insane.

You're not sounding paranoid at all.
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:54 AM
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11. On the other hand...
Isnt it possible that people in Kansas poisoned it to frame China, a competitor?
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 11:23 AM
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21. Only if you could get the rat poison in this country, where it is banned
I believe.
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 11:24 AM
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22. And I wouldn't diss the people in Kansas that way n/t
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:49 AM
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8. Terrorists did it because they hate our freedoms and our free pets. n/t
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barb162 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:51 AM
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9. I think it won't.. Americans have a huge capacity for denial
that this country is being ruined by outsourcing, open borders, etc. If the DVDs are cheaper, they think everything is okay (as long as unemployment doesn't hit them).
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Pathwalker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:53 AM
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10. Why is the news saying it was made in Canada, then?
Curious...
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flashsmith Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 10:59 AM
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17. When will someone ask the next question?
If the Chinese wheat was contaminated, was any human food made with this wheat? I doubt American produced food products would use imported wheat, but apparently the Canadians do. Has any human food imported from Canada been contaminated with rat poison?
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jaksavage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 11:23 AM
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20. Peak Capitolism
Screw everybody
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Vinca Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 11:28 AM
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23. What if this stuff had been in infant cereal? Heck, maybe it is for all we know.
Didn't the midsection of this country used to be call the "bread basket" because we grew so much wheat?
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pushycat Donating Member (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:24 PM
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24. Not paranoid at all. Google poison products +China:
Who needs guns when there's rat poison (2003)
In the zany, Communist land of China, the hip, cool trend these days involves hoarding rat poison. Rat poison is hot stuff, hard to come by and highly coveted. Perhaps you're now asking yourself, "Does China have a rodent problem?" Perhaps, if you're me, you take that one step further and ask "Is a giant mutant rat loose in China, and only a huge supply of poison will kill the beast?"
http://media.www.pittnews.com/media/storage/paper879/news/2003/11/20/Opinions/Who-Needs.Guns.When.Theres.Rat.Poison-1790902.shtml

Man Admits Posioning Food in Rival's Shop, Killing 38 in china (2002)
A jealous business rival has confessed to spiking the food in a snack shop in eastern China with rat poison, killing 38 people, mostly schoolchildren, and sending hundreds more to the hospital, state news organizations reported tonight.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?sec=health&res=9B04E0DF1530F93BA2575AC0A9649C8B63


Examples of food sabotage can be drawn from other countries' experiences, as well. In September 2002, nearly 40 people died and more than 200 were hospitalized near Nanjing, China after the owner of a fast-food outlet poisoned a competitor's breakfast foods with rat poison.(13) One year earlier, 120 people in China were sickened when the owners of a noodle factory reportedly laced their food with rat poison.(13)
http://www.cfsan.fda.gov/~dms/rabtact.html#ftnref13

Green tea from China found to be contaminated with alarming levels of pesticides
China is angry over a test of its green tea exports that turned up alarming levels of pesticides. But rather than turning to its agricultural practices and limiting the use of pesticides, China is attacking the testing methods used to detect the pesticides in the first place.
http://www.newstarget.com/food_safety.html

Pesticide Residues a Major Threat to China's AG Exports
http://www.organicconsumers.org/toxic/chinapesticides012103.cfm

Lead Still Found in children's Products (2004)
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:nvV0WNbIdOwJ:www.kidsindanger.org/pressroom/releases/20040825_pr.pdf+poison+toys+%2Bchina&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=28&gl=us


Child's death from lead poisoning prompts recall and warning about children's jewelry (2006)
The death of a child from lead poisoning has prompted federal and state health officials to issue new warnings about the dangers of children’s jewelry toys that contain lead.

The item was a heart-shaped charm on a bracelet that came as a promotional item with a pair of Reebok athletic shoes. Laboratory analysis of the charm found that it contained 99 percent lead. The legal safety threshold for lead content in jewelry is 0.06%.

The Reebok charm was made in China.
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:ms7qzuKerVAJ:www.healthsystem.virginia.edu/internet/medtox/News/ReebokCharm.doc+poison+toys+%2Breebok&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=4&gl=us


Buy shit from China at a huge risk, IMO.







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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:28 PM
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25. Oursourcing hurts security
Thinking of WW2, could we do that again if we had to?

Could we be the Allied Arsenal? Crank out guns, trucks, tanks, munitions, merchant ships? Our steel industry is pretty much gone, so I doubt we could repeat that sort of manufacturing and logistics effort.

It's a trade-off. We have cheaper steel coming in, and we have cleaner air. Even Pittsburgh is a nice place now, compared to the grime sixty or so years ago.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 12:38 PM
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26. No. Americans don't do anything unless it effects them personally.
If human food was tainted - then maybe something would be done.
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roseBudd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 06:52 PM
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27. I have been aware of Chinese mislabeling and contamination with lead, mercury &
pharmaceuticals for some time

I consider myself a very skeptical, show me the data kind of person. As a long time member of a Yahoo group called Feline Heart I am constantly amazed at owners who disparage the advice of their pet's advanced degreed ACVIM vets and favor the advice of a homeopathic, holistic or naturopathic DVM. I found myself having to stand up for the treatment prescribed by the ACVIM cardiologists and internists when true believer owners rejected that advice and gave special credence to the often contrary advice of the homeopathic, holistic or naturopathic vets whose recommendations included a homeopathic digitalis marketed for humans that almost killed an asymptomatic HCM feline, and preparations that include Hawthorne which is contraindicated for HCM.


Toxic heavy metals and undeclared drugs in Asian herbal medicines.Ernst E.
Dept of Complementary Medicine, School of Sport and Health Sciences, University of Exeter, UK. E.Ernst@exeter.ac.uk

Asian herbal medicines are currently used by large sections of the population. Because they are not regulated as medicines and are freely available to everyone, serious safety concerns might be associated with these herbal medicines. In this article, evidence suggesting that some Asian herbal medicines contain toxic heavy metals or undeclared prescription drugs is reviewed. In particular, Indian and Chinese preparations have been implicated. Although adulteration with drugs is by definition fraudulent, the inclusion of heavy metals could be either intentional for alleged medicinal purposes or accidental. Evidence from various countries implies that toxic heavy metals and undeclared prescription drugs in Asian herbal medicines might constitute a serious health problem. However, the majority of the data is anecdotal and insufficient to define prevalence figures. Ways ought to be found to maximize consumer safety.
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