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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 07:52 AM Original message |
To all the vaccine-haters: |
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Cessna Invesco Palin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 07:55 AM Response to Original message |
1. Unfortunately, there's no reasoning with some people. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
2. I'm ok with letting evolution deal with fools... |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 08:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Unfortunately... |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 08:00 AM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Except that the children don't really have a choice.. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 09:35 AM Response to Reply #5 |
13. Which is why I think these parents are guilty of child endangerment. n/t |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:44 AM Response to Reply #5 |
28. True that. That should simply be illegal. |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #28 |
113. It should be illegal to not get vaccines |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 07:59 AM Response to Original message |
3. I am so sorry about this awful tragedy |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
6. recommend |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
7. meningitis could be caused by a number of things. head trauma, ear infection, strep throat |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 08:07 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. I didn't know the girl, personally. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 08:14 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. my point. the reason she got and died could have easily had NOTHING to do |
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varkam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 08:04 AM Response to Original message |
8. Any death is tragic... |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
11. Is the meningitis vaccine |
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nemo137 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 09:45 AM Response to Reply #11 |
15. Meningitis vacs are generally given to college freshmen |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 09:48 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. above i have some info on the vaccination and we have no idea if this has anything |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #16 |
35. I did not blame anyone for anything. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 01:36 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. of course you didn't blame and sorry you took it that way. i agree with you. |
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SheilaT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:35 PM Response to Reply #50 |
64. I apologize for misunderstanding you. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
31. Nothing is 100% for fuck's sake. It's not about fucking 100%. It's about MAXIMIZING your chances. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 11:17 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. my kids dont have this vaccination. not recommended or suggested by our doctor. i dont have it |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 11:30 AM Response to Reply #32 |
33. "not recommended or suggested by our doctor". |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. hey.... my kids have regular appt, goooood doctor, on top of stuff.... |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #34 |
53. I don't think the OP meant to smear anyone that doesn't have this particular vaccine. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 09:34 AM Response to Original message |
12. On an Asperger's message board I frequent there is an idiot that claims that vaccines don't work. |
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waiting for hope (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:24 AM Response to Reply #12 |
24. That may be my sister-in-law ..... |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 09:39 AM Response to Original message |
14. K&R... |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 09:57 AM Response to Original message |
17. For me it isn't the vaccines as much as the mercury base - they keep saying there getting rid of it! |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:02 AM Response to Reply #17 |
19. I seems impossible the mercury made u ill |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:22 AM Response to Reply #19 |
22. I disagree. I almost died from eating grouper - the ocean fish in 1994. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:26 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. i agree with you on this, but better to ignore cause pro vacc afraid losing ground |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 07:22 AM Response to Reply #17 |
106. flumist has NO preservatives. |
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1776Forever (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #106 |
111. Thanks but I am too old and if you have immune issues that is bad too. |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #106 |
118. You don't normally inject bulbs do ya? |
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AwakeAtLast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:00 AM Response to Original message |
18. My grandfather didn't trust vaccines |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
20. Idiots, absolute fucking idiots... |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:18 AM Response to Reply #20 |
21. who is the idiot? what did they do wrong? since you know what happened |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:35 AM Response to Reply #21 |
26. Anti-vaxxers, that's who. n/t |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:50 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. what does that have to do with op? n/t |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
23. Myself, my ex and my three children were all vaccinated against it 13-14 years ago |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:42 AM Response to Original message |
27. Give it up, AspieGrrl. |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:44 AM Response to Original message |
29. Was she the NYC Stuyvascent High School student? |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 01:06 PM Response to Reply #29 |
47. Yes, that was her. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:56 PM Response to Reply #47 |
69. I live in Westchester Co. and my sons' pediatrician didn't recommend the vaccine until after they |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
36. I'm still not getting that damn Flu Vaccine! |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Vaccines aren't drugs btw. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 01:00 PM Response to Reply #38 |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
57. Do you understand what a carrier does? |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:01 PM Response to Reply #38 |
71. That seems a bit far fetched. They don't even offer the flu vaccine to everyone |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 12:22 PM Response to Reply #36 |
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Kansas Wyatt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. Just as there are no lemmings on the left, eh? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 01:45 PM Response to Reply #46 |
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TZ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 11:50 AM Response to Original message |
37. K+R and for all the people who think this OP doesn't apply.. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. then start a thread about the facts and attack anti vac. to use this story and blame girls death |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. But the OP was trying to make a point. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 01:38 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. it was a lousy point and shame on her using this girls death to make such a lousy |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #51 |
56. It's not a lousy point. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:10 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. first vaccine was out in 1970's. only a very very small portion of society is effected |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:18 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Seabeyond, I'm not arguing that parents should rush out and get this vaccine. |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 08:25 AM Response to Reply #58 |
108. My stepmother almost died from meningitis |
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mr blur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
60. It wasn't a lousy point and it wasn't wrong. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:32 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. what does ANY of that have to do with this girls death? are you vaccinated |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:34 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. I wasn't blaming anyone. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:41 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. i am glad to hear, but not how it sounded. |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #66 |
112. I agree with you |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:46 PM Response to Reply #62 |
67. You're right. It doesn't. |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:14 PM Response to Reply #67 |
78. Yeah, you read my intention correctly. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:31 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. I do understand what you're saying. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:39 PM Response to Reply #61 |
65. thank you pithlet. that is all. i am NOT in this fucking going to argue at all cost |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #65 |
76. The FDA has considerably weakened under Bush. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:24 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. i just dont know. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #81 |
96. I'm not going to tell you that your own personal observations |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 08:14 PM Response to Reply #81 |
116. I trust your parental intuition and observations. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 04:44 PM Response to Reply #37 |
99. um, no it's not. vaccine coverage, in absolute numbers, as % of vaccination-age kids, |
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K8-EEE (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
40. Calling BS on your premise |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 12:17 PM Response to Original message |
41. I'm sorry for your loss. But I think you don't understand that those who question vaccinations |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
44. Ugh, Jenny McCarthy. |
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Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 01:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Yeah, Jenny McCarthy is more trustworthy than the World Health Organization. You dumbass. nt |
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semillama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #41 |
54. You do realize that Jenny McCarthy is NOT an authority on vaccination? |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Ahh, but she is when you move the goal posts |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #54 |
68. Jenny McCarthy is a parent of a child with Autism who worked her ass off to recover her child. |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. Why must people with disabilities always work to become "normal"? |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
79. Recovery is not about becoming "normal" or finding a "cure". |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #79 |
83. there are lots of different thing and tools to give child that makes the world just a little |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:31 PM Response to Reply #83 |
87. Exactly-it's all about making their lives easier and better. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. doesnt it. so cruel on the internet. can say whatever ugly they want |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #90 |
94. I never knew how cruel and nasty people could be until I started going to forums like this one |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Note to Jenny McCarthy: |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. So that explains the Autism epidemic, eh?! |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #80 |
89. the "epidemic" was created by better recognition by parents and doctors. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:37 PM Response to Reply #89 |
91. Wrong. Autism was extremely RARE in the past. Do your research. nt |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:39 PM Response to Reply #91 |
93. It was "Rare" because it wasn't diagnosed... |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:57 PM Response to Reply #93 |
97. Yeah, and the way you're wording things isn't helping. |
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Feron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 04:55 PM Response to Reply #91 |
100. In the past, I would've been labeled as being.. |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:18 PM Response to Reply #100 |
104. I'm not talking about kids with Aspergers, which is what I'm guessing you have. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #89 |
92. that isnt true. there is just too many nuerological problems with kids today. |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. I have a "neurological problem" |
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conscious evolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #89 |
98. Wrong |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 08:16 PM Response to Reply #89 |
117. BULLSHIT! |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #89 |
122. If you're gonna fail, do so spectacularly. |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #68 |
82. Her way can actually cause more harm. In fact, it can kill. |
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Feron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 05:04 PM Response to Reply #68 |
101. Jenny McCarthy subjected her child to quack "cures". |
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earth mom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 10:20 PM Response to Reply #101 |
105. Talk to parents other than Jenny McCarthy who have recovered their kids and then get back to us. nt |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #105 |
114. I'm fly over on my purple elephant to ask such parents. |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 08:09 PM Response to Reply #41 |
115. Instead of attacking her.... |
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Pithlet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
43. I know. But there's really no arguing with them. |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:05 PM Response to Original message |
73. Personally, I'd take the "risk" of autism or whatnot |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:11 PM Response to Reply #73 |
74. you understand it is not the vaccine they are complaing about. it is therma something |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #74 |
77. nice slippery slope argument. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:28 PM Response to Reply #77 |
85. and AGAIN, not many are arguing NO vaccination so makes your whole argument |
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crimsonblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. lmfao. like you know the processes involved in making vaccines |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 08:30 PM Response to Reply #77 |
119. And we should mandate all care that a doctor suggests. |
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Feron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 05:06 PM Response to Reply #74 |
102. The preservative is NOT in childhood vaccines. |
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trotsky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 08:49 AM Response to Reply #102 |
109. And the best proof thimerosal wasn't the factor? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 09:08 AM Response to Reply #109 |
110. what is truly unfortunate is 8 yrs of lies and an inability for consumer to trust |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 10:14 PM Response to Reply #110 |
124. yes, it is not our fault we cannot trust the FDA, medical field and pharmaceutical companies. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 10:57 PM Response to Reply #124 |
125. thats how i see it. |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:12 PM Response to Original message |
75. People die from vaccine preventable diseases. |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:28 PM Response to Original message |
84. one of my best friend's daughter died from that strain of meningitis |
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sakabatou (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
86. I got something what the docs thought was meningitis |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Jan-15-09 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
103. I enjoy these threads. |
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Fireweed247 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 08:38 PM Response to Reply #103 |
120. Oh I agree |
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HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 08:49 PM Response to Reply #120 |
121. Case in point. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jan-16-09 09:05 PM Response to Reply #103 |
123. I was thinking the very same thing. |
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