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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 07:33 PM
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Feds Drop Case AGainst Accussed Iraqi Agent - Susan Lindauer HUGE!
This is a very good sign. It's the first of many injustices that need to be corrected and it's about time. Please note (as indicated at the end of the article): Permission to reproduce in whole or in part with attribution of authorship and a link to this article

Michael Collins


Link: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0901/S00210.htm

Feds Drop Case Against Accused Iraqi Agent


]i]"The Government has determined that continued prosecution of this case
as to LINDAUER would not be in the interests of justice."*


Michael Collins
"Scoop" Independent News


(Jan. 16, Wash. DC) The Department of Justice entered a motion to drop all charges against Susan Lindauer yesterday morning, Jan. 15, 2009. The filing (see below) at the federal district court in lower Manhattan ends the government's attempt to prosecute her for allegedly acting as an "unregistered agent" for Iraq. Since her arrest in early 2004, she has repeatedly asked for a trial to present evidence that she had been a United States intelligence asset since the early 1990's.

By filing this order, the government surrendered forever its ability to prosecute Lindauer as an "Iraqi foreign agent" and for lesser charges contained in the indictment, including a one week trip to Baghdad in March, 2002.

SNIP

The Card letter was the "high water mark" of the government's charge of acting as a foreign agent according to former chief judge of the Southern District, Manhattan federal court, now Attorney General, Michael B. Mukasey. In that letter, Lindauer urged the Bush administration to stop plans to invade Iraq and to seek engagement through negotiation. Lindauer wrote that U.S. soldiers would face stiff opposition based on Iraqi hostility resulting from a lethal ten year embargo and daily bombing during the 1990's.

She also advised Card that an invasion would create a new wave of terrorists threatening the security of the United States. This letter was hand delivered to Card with a copy, also hand delivered, provided to then Secretary of State Colin Powell.
"Above all, you must realize that if you go ahead with this invasion, Osama bin Laden will triumph, rising from his grave or seclusion. His network will be swollen with fresh recruits, and other charismatic individuals will seek to build upon his model, multiplying those networks. And the United States will have delivered the death blow to itself. Using your own act of war, Osama and his cohort will irrevocably divide the hearts and minds of the Arab Street from moderate governments in Islamic countries that have been holding back the tide. Power to the people, what we call “democracy,” will secure the rise of fundamentalists." Susan Lindauer to Andrew Card, January 6, 2003*


Link: http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0901/S00210.htm

Previous "Scoop" coverage on USA v. Susan Lindauer:
American Cassandra: Susan Lindauer’s Story Michael Collins 17 October 2007
Bush Political Prisoner Gets her Day in Court Michael Collins June 11, 2008
An Exclusive Interview with Bush Political Prisoner Susan Lindauer Michael Collins June 2008
911 Predictions Revealed at Susan Lindauer Competency Hearing Michael Collins June 17, 2004
Did Justice Order Forced Psychiatric Medication? Michael Collins, Sept. 12, 2008.
American Kafka: Susan Lindauer Demands "The Trial" Michael Collins, Oct. 4, 2008





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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 07:37 PM
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1. Buzz it if you can (registraiton required)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 05:23 AM
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70. A complete and precise summary of the Lindauer Case


From John Ervin in reply to this article at OpEdNews.Com

It is a history that needs to be written for all our sakes, and defense, how governments, pre-eminently "our" own, have used junk psychology to smear those who resolutely disagree, ever since psychology became a discipline. It was used against Pasternak in Russia, before them the Gestapo, and it's been used to effect ever since, especially by the Bush crime family and our more "American" Gestapo, too, trying so zealously to take lasting root. PTSD is the chaser for the longer-lasting assaults, used by death squads all over the world, and especially popular in our hemisphere in recent decades.

It's a major victory for the Truth, and for everyone, to see such an assault on one of our patriots and citizens backfire so blatantly, as has this revolting "case" against Ms. Lindauer.

This should go far to discredit such practices, so cowardly in their conception.

Her staunchness in the face of "friendly" fire will help to render this kind of coordinated cowardice a lot less effective in the future. And protect us all. To the dungeon, with the Sidney Gottliebs of our covert ops, and all his current ilk.

It would be very instructive to make comparisons through a compendium of the countless times in recent years false diagnoses have been pimped out by DOJ and Cointelpro-esque overseers, much of their manufactured evidence coordinated through covert tactics, to torture analysis to fit the facts, much like the "intelligence" about Saddam was counterfeited.

But what has been done to Ms. Lindauer, as was done to Iris Chang, is crueler than any of Torquemada's devices, an Iron Maiden for the spirit, and makes more conventional torture of past ages seem half-hearted.

Except for you, Michael, and a few others, Susan Lindauer has fought this battle in the kind of solitude, against such an organized enemy, that renders the assaults against her even more formidable, and magnifies their crimes against her. They deserve an entirely new class of felony.

Like the cowards that they are, able to run but not hide, her ordeal will keep a finger pointed at all of those responsible, until our new administration, or some foreign power, arrests the Bush crime partners and tries them for the unspeakable war crimes of this Orwellian last eight years.

Such "Trial by Shrinks" was used to eliminate Iris Chang in her tender thirties, and frequently used against journalists like Gary Webb, and others less known, all of them shrink-wrapped and framed as "paranoid" or depressive, in spite of the most lucid journalism or other testimony, and the Bush cabal has used something like it against virtually every one who has decisively broken through the ornate web of counterfeits they've spun, as we try to bring the truth of their unspeakable crimes to light.

Congratulations to Ms. Lindauer, and not least of all to you, Michael, for doggedly resisting.

The American people owe such freedom fighters an un-repayable debt of gratitude.

Now, may the doors of Justice open a crack for Sibel Edmonds, whom Ellsberg has championed as a quest along lines very parallel to Lindauer's, to get us a full serving of the Truth about what FBI and CIA knew before 9/11, and when they knew it.

That should rattle some things in a few closets.

May we know the Truth, it is the only thing that will set U.S. free.

And the "disgust" that Susan Lindauer feels for this case will be shared by history itself ~ now latent, soon blatant ~ as we begin to piece into an unbroken chain of evidence all the clues left by this whole culture of narcissistic liars and outrages casually inflicted upon our citizens, foisted on us for eight years, and growing for decades under administrations of like ilk. The time has come, for the sake of history and our future, to discredit them all as one unbroken string.

~John Ervin

by muservin on Saturday, January 17, 2009 at 1:53:53 PM


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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 11:24 AM
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73. Her Case Is A Fine Example Of The Excess Of Transgression
That is the legacy of the * years as ruled over by Cheney.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 08:48 PM
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83. "What is your major malfunction numnuts?" The people to Cheney n/t
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Idealism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 07:41 PM
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2. This...is...HUGH!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 07:49 PM
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5. Mr. HUGH Bris as heft the building

There's much more about this case will just blow people's minds.

Basically, Lindauer was prosecuted for sending a letter to Card which predicted accurately
what would happen in Iraq. Oops. Not a good time in our history to be right. So what do you
do with people who are right? Ask Susan.

:toast:
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:52 PM
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26. Hugh Bris, chortle :) nt
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-09 01:55 AM
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86. They thought that their crimes wouldn't matter since they'd
be in power forever. But their over confidence was a method to deny what they had to know would
happen one day, a change that would lead, at some point, to their couplet and total exposure.
Mr. Hugh Bris enabled the denial and that, in turn, allowed them to indulge in their impulsive
desires for immediate pleasure. They must be thinking, 'But it's over so soon!" They don't
know how soon that will be when an angry country focuses on the details of their crimes.

Susan Lindauer won a hard fought battle against these monsters with help from a very few close
to her and others who objected to the gross legal and human indignities that she suffered.

Her case is an example of just how much can be done during an opening as we're experiencing now.

But as long as she lives, Lindauer will be able to say that she fought the monsters every step of
the way and prevailed on before they left.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-09 02:14 AM
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87. They thought that their crimes wouldn't matter since they'd
Edited on Mon Jan-19-09 02:22 AM by autorank
...be in power forever. But their over confidence was a method to deny what they had to know would
happen one day, a change that would lead, at some point, to their complete and total exposure.
Mr. Hugh Bris enabled the denial and that, in turn, allowed them to indulge in their impulsive
desires for immediate pleasure. They must be thinking, 'But it's over so soon!' They don't
know how soon that will be when an angry country focuses on the details of their crimes.

Susan Lindauer won a hard fought battle against these monsters with help from a very few close
to her and others who objected to the gross legal and human indignities that she suffered. She
refused to surrender or capitulate.

Her story is an example of just how much can be done during the reign of vulgar oppressors who
break every rule.

As long as she lives, Lindauer will be able to say that she fought the monsters every step of
the way and prevailed before they left.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 07:44 PM
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3. Thus Is HUGH!!!
Edited on Fri Jan-16-09 07:46 PM by Me.
What happened, exactly, why did they fold their tents, so to speak? A good harbinger.

Edited to add: and they called her crazy
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 07:47 PM
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4. They came to their senses. Good move when administraitons are changing.

This case was a nightmare from the start. I'll just guess here, but I'll bet that there was no way anyone wanted to hand this off to the new A.G., who would not do stuff like this.

Quite a story, lots of suffering for Susan Lindauer but she never gave up.

An example to us all.

:toast:
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 08:01 PM
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9. Right, she never gave up.
And we must never give up either.

:)
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 06:21 PM
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61. 4 words, exactly. They had no case.

It's that simple. Well, let me correct myself.

If McCain had been elected, I suspect that the case would have gone forward, a truly unpleasant
thought with many chilling implications.

So it's 4 words and a sentence + a landslide for Obama.

And add the "interests of justice" = we're there.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 07:51 PM
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6. Wonderful news! And kudos to you for pursuing her story for us, shipmate.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 07:55 PM
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7. Thank you sir

What a story, not over yet but this is great news. It's a great sign, come to life, that the
era of persecution is coming to a close.

:hi:
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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 07:58 PM
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8. Also of note in this story is this tidbit:
(snip) "At the same hearing, Parke Godfrey, PhD, an associate professor of computer science at York University, Toronto, testified that Lindauer had warned him on several occasions that a major attack would take place in Southern Manhattan in the fall of 2001. Dr. Godfrey claimed her warnings specified that the attack would most likely involve airplane hijackings and a reprise of the 1993 World Trade Center attack. She came to this conclusion based on work she describes with Richard Fuisz.

The Department of Justice argued that Lindauer was "delusional" for claiming a role as a U.S. asset. Lindauer described this as guilt by pleading innocent.' "


this is one heck of a job here, Mr Collins.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 10:56 PM
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20. Thanks
You have an excellent eye!

Godfrey told the prosecutors well before the hearing that Lindauer had predicted 911.

Godfrey is amazingly credible in person and by the nature of his work.

Why did thay act like this was new info?

Check the link for Ed O'Callaghan, the prosecutor for most
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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 08:06 PM
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10. Awesome!
Thanks for all your reporting on this, sir. :patriot:

The tide, she is turning.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:03 PM
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21. Lindauer never backed off and she's got a great attorney, Brian Shaughnessy of DC
Shaughnessy is a former federal prosecutor and guess whose court he practiced in?

Judge Sirica - Maximum John of the Watergate burglars (which you know). Toughens you up.

Here's what he said about the prosecutors insisting on delaying the trial due to "incompetence."

"Ms. Lindauer's Attorney, Brian W. Shaughnessy pointed out that he could find no other instance where federal, state or local prosecutors have ever argued for a defendant's incompetence to stand trial over the objections of the defendant and defendant's Counsel, when that defendant was a successfully functioning member of the community and a full participant in her defense.
http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0901/S00210.htm






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bleever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 02:43 AM
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28. Cuckoo's Nest.
The works of Kafka. And Orwell.

Cheney's high-water mark is the dry scummy line left when the tsunami has thrown its worst at you and retreated.

Here starts the tomorrow implicit in the hope of survival, which we clung to despite all discouragement and promised probability.


Bring it on.


:thumbsup:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 06:24 PM
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62. Damn, that second line...ouch. I can hear Cheney wincing now.

Wonder if he's read The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder by Vincent Bugliosi.

He's on the list with GWB and Ms. Rice.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:15 AM
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49. That's true
Sometimes prosecutors or judges will look to have an evaluation done in order to cover their own asses so as to not have a conviction overturned because competency or sanity was in question, but it is the defendants' attorney who will pursue this as a line of defense, sometimes over the objections of the defendants themselves. The only other time this becomes a big issue is when the defendant is acting pro se, partly because so many of the really crazy ones choose to go this route, a la Colin Ferguson.

What seems to be in question here is the competency/sanity of the AUSAs who had the audacity to make such an argument.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 06:36 PM
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63. You made my day!

"What seems to be in question here is the competency/sanity of the AUSAs who had the audacity to make such an argument."

Right, you know what you're talking about. It's simple.

I read the transcript of the last court appointed shrink evaluation. What's the exact opposite
of rapport? I don't now what the point of it was but it failed to demonstrate anything.

Here's an interesting sequence.

Interview of Susan Lindauer by court appointed forensic psychiatrist.

-----------

Testimony of eminent practitioner from DC on Lindauer. Court told she's entirely fit to stand
trial.

----------

Weeks later, willingness of both prosecutor and defense to waive the court appointed prosecution
psychiatrists testimony and move to judgment.

----------

Judge says, no, no. We'll hear the good doctor for the prosecution.

----------

Week or two later, prosecution shrink testifies based on weak to nonexistent findings, cross examined.

End of shrinks testimony.

Judge immediately hauls out a written opinion and decides for prosecution - no trial since
defendant, who helped her lawyer prepare motoins, lives well, etc. because can't help with her
defense.

----------

Sweet! The judge bypassed the cross examination and wrote her opinion prior to the last hearing.


What's that about? Just an other day in the Southern District federal court.
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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 08:06 PM
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11. the aspen has no leaves
tis the season of death and renewal
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 07:31 AM
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37. "They turn in clusters, because their roots connect them."
"Come back to work---and life. Until then, you will remain in my thoughts and prayers." (S. Libby)

:loveya:

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knowbody0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:16 PM
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65. I knew you'd get it!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 04:34 PM
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76. Smart "SMRT" ;) n/t

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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 08:06 PM
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12. K&R Great news!
:applause: :applause: To you for keeping this covered.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-09 03:16 AM
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89. It has been my privilege

Quite a story. She really stuck it to them and never wavered. They're not used to that.

:hi:
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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 08:07 PM
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13. xlnt
very, very good news, kp
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 10:03 AM
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42. Una signora di milione ringraziamenti
:)
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AntiFascist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 08:16 PM
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14. K&R !

It's great to see this level of hubris breaking down in the Federal government. People need to understand what the name "Bush" really means to Iraq.
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msedano Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 08:23 PM
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15. Congratulations
Ms. Lindauer.

I hope this is the first of numerous outgoing administration corrections. Shithead's Just Us Dept hassled this woman for years just because. Punishment to satisfy the personal pique of some bureaucratic jerk. Damn, I hope she can recover some of her expenses.

A tip o the hat to Collins and Scoop, covering this story when other news sources refused to touch it. Collins was right from the start, and the big news fools should hang their heads in shame.

Recommended (but buzzflash won't let me in so not buzzed).

mvs
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 07:33 AM
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39. "big news fools"
Sweet! & THANKS!

I run with the Yardlings;)
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 08:32 PM
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16. Big K & R n/t
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 08:49 PM
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17. Great News! and it says loads about their motives
Edited on Fri Jan-16-09 08:51 PM by Wiley50
Her story, if they allowed it to get out, at least without labeling her as crazy

was about to blow their cover regarding their plans

and also their alibi for saying 9/11 was a complete surprise to them.

When, actually, they knew in advance about 9/11 and purposely did nothing

and the results of invading Iraq that she warned the of

was exactly what they wanted.

They wanted to inflame a fundamentalist response

and they had a hand in 9/11.

FUCKING BASTARDS! They MUST BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE

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truedelphi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:23 PM
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23. If someone had this as a plot, say back in 1999,
Edited on Fri Jan-16-09 11:27 PM by truedelphi
No fiction editor in their right mind would allow for these plot twists.

Yet another proof of the old canard about fact being stranger than fiction.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 02:05 PM
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56. Few go wrong over estimating the vile nature of these criminals

What a scene ... sure, just arrest her. She actually told McCain and Lott that she'd testify
to decent intel before Iraq. roflmao DESTROY HER!!!


That's who these people are - a perfect blend of narcissism and anti social behavior, non stop.

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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 10:14 PM
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18. This Needs A Kick
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 04:40 PM
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78. I agree
:kick:

Thanks for reminding me of my duty to post this promptly on DU. Worked out very well, don't you
think. It was really fun reviewing the thread with Susan Lindauer last night. She was totally
impressed with the tone and intelligence of the posters.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 05:47 AM
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92. One more
:kick:
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 10:16 PM
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19. Light at the end of a very long and dark tunnel
Susan will be needing our support for a long time to overcome the effects of this trauma. Let us not forget her.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 01:50 AM
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27. She is resolute
That type of treatment is so over the top and uncharacteristic of what 99.999% of citizens would
tolerate, it's amazing.

Who do "they" think "they" are?

The purpose of incarceration for 7 months in a prison on an Air Force base in Texas is clear:
STFU! The secondary purpose is to discredit the whistleblower.

Interesting that she got zapped right after contacting McCain and Lott on testifying that Iraq
pre war intel was adequate to the task. But that's just a "coincidence" right? NOT!

Your comment is much appreciated!
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 12:48 PM
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52. Edited to read: I think "endure" would have been a better word than "tolerate" but
Edited on Sat Jan-17-09 12:52 PM by bertman
thanks for this post, autorank. Very enlightening.
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understandinglife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:19 PM
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22. Most Excellent!!
:hi:

Peace!!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 10:07 AM
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43. Thank you!
This is what happens when the person being persecuted has the will and intelligence to stand up to
"the man." This has been a long hard road for Susan Lindauer. In a very real sense, she's manning
the barricades for the rest of us. Imagine, politically motivated psychiatric hospitalization --
American style.

It's a disgrace to the entire system of diagnosis and treatment. It's more that that, though,
it's a direct threat to all of who speak up. "Little 'crazy' there aren't we auto?" Oh wait,
that's happened right here. Glad those people aren't in charge;)
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 10:20 AM
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46. What a brave and courageous woman!

And thank you for the updates, good work!
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:37 PM
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24. ..
:kick:
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-16-09 11:50 PM
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25. Genuinely Kafka-esque. I need to go back and read your previous writings.
I am glad Justice finally prevailed, and I am wondering if she can be compensated? Seems to me when govt agents breach their authority they should be personally culpable.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 07:25 AM
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36. Kafka is right!


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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 03:13 AM
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29. Some historical LBN threads from this case:
Despite the media headlines, LIndauer was actually never accused of "spying"

American Citizen Charged With Spying for Saddam Hussein's Iraqi Government
Thu Mar-11-04 03:22 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=414619

American Citizen Charged With Spying (for Iraq)
Thu Mar-11-04 05:47 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=415097

American charged in Iraqi conspiracy
Thu Mar-11-04 11:19 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=416190

Ex-Aide for Congress Is Charged for Being a Paid Agent for Iraq
Thu Mar-11-04 11:44 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=416262

Accused spy is cousin of Bush staffer (gulp)
Fri Mar-12-04 12:55 AM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=416437

Accused Iraqi spy blames politics
Mon Mar-15-04 09:13 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=423916

Judge won't force drugs on accused spy (for Saddam)
Thu Sep-07-06 07:26 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2499163

Ex-U.S. senate aide in Iraq spy case freed
Sat Sep-09-06 05:17 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=2502266

Feds made me do it, sez Iraq spy suspect (Susan Lindauer)
Wed Jun-18-08 01:40 PM
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=102&topic_id=3357433

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 07:24 AM
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35. The blogs made a huge difference, according to Susan Lindauer

It's the only attention to the case where suspicions were raised.

The NYT article is really offensive, speculating on her mental health out of nowhere. How tacky.

I was surprised that hardly anybody wrote about this in the past year. What's their hesitation?

Nothing in Mother Jones, Huffington Post, Nation, etc.

Thanks for the list!
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 03:17 AM
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30. Susan Lindauer's Mission to Baghdad (NYT) 2004
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DemReadingDU Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 10:16 AM
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45. Thanks for the original article
Edited on Sat Jan-17-09 10:24 AM by DemReadingDU

edit
It is interesting to read then, and now.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 10:14 PM
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84. You're welcome
This is an unfolding story. There's more to come and a lot of repair work for the Department of
Justice. Eric Holder as Attorney General is up for the task.

:hi:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 06:37 AM
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71. Glad you brought that up. Figure this one out (from the article)
Edited on Sun Jan-18-09 06:39 AM by autorank
Samuels published this in August 2004. This was after Lindauer's arrest, but a few months before
they confined her to Carswell after declaring her incompetent to stand trial (a bogus claim).

This is toward the end of the article. Samuels is a guest at her DC area home, interviewing her for
this article. He writes the following:

"Sipping lemonade on her front porch in Takoma Park, I found myself sharing her paranoid landscape, observing a beige car pass by her house four times in the space of two hours, as the birds twittered in the trees and Lindauer's girlish voice detailed ''the horrific abuses, the sexual torture'' being visited on innocent Iraqis by coalition troops.

OK, where does "paranoid landscape" come in. Why is he using this particular word, indicative of
psychosis. Why is he using it at this time? She has been gracious enough to entertain him at her
home and he's worried about a "paranoid landscape." Where's the indication of this? Then he
comments on the car going by but we don't know if he's concerned or if Lindauer is concerned. I
spoke with her about this particular sentence and there's a somewhat amusing and touching
explanation for the car. But she wasn't focused on it.

I think the 'paranoid' reference is a huge cheap shot and possibly something worse. While I have
no idea about Samuels motives, it would be fair to say that "This article begins to lay the
foundation for subsequent charges of 'delusions' by Lindauer, charges which lead to her abuse
through confinement and terror tactics regarding constraint and forced medication."

The term just doesn't belong, thus it raises questions.

The Times coverage of the trial in July 2008 was clearly intended to present Lindauer in a
very negative light and humiliate her in public. What they claimed happend in court was seen
only by the NYT reporter.

I wrote this as a response.

From the People Who Brought You Judith Miller & George Bush:
The NYT Covers the Susan Lindauer Hearing June 24, 2008
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 05:03 AM
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31. K&R * If the Bush Cheney war crimes trial ever happens...
Edited on Sat Jan-17-09 05:05 AM by Hubert Flottz
Andy Card needs to be rounded up and put on trial with the worst of the worst.

The feds dropped the case because the bush gangsters were afraid of the large ugly can of worms it would open up when the next AG opened the file and started looking at the "Facts". The case had tentacles that would have gotten right to the heart of everything rotten the bush gangsters did to instigate the illegal invasion of Iraq under false pretense. The exact same type of deal as when Press Bush's old comrade Adolf Hitler invaded Poland based on lies and triggered WWII.

The neocons/PNAC/OSP...may not be card carrying Nazis, but they did the same kinds of things the Nazis did...

Nuremburg Trials


The Indictments

Count One: Conspiracy to Wage Aggressive War

Count Two: Waging Aggressive War, or "Crimes Against Peace"

Count Three: War Crimes

Count Four: Crimes Against Humanity

"Never Again"(your @$$)

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 05:47 PM
Response to Reply #31
80. I couldn't agree more
Edited on Sun Jan-18-09 05:47 PM by autorank
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 05:19 AM
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32. Wonderful!!!!
:thumbsup:


:kick:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 06:56 AM
Response to Reply #32
33. Got Justice?
How about that. Lindauer fought every bit of the way.

Incarcerating her for 11 months, threatening to force her, physically, to take Haldol for years, telling her that pleading innocent by affirming her activities over years meant that she was delusional -- all this constituted TORTURE.

But she didn't give up, she had a great lawyer, and justice is emerging.

Thanks for the kind word!
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 07:12 AM
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34. She was right
Massive victory indeed.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 07:32 AM
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38. I don't think people even looked at the letter. But you're right.
She was right. It's all there.

Score one for the citizens!
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OnceUponTimeOnTheNet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 07:41 AM
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40. Attorney General, Michael B. Mukasey

photo won't show?

In this Dec. 12, 2008 file photo, Attorney General Michael Mukasey listens during a news conference in Washington. At the Justice Department, a spokesman said that Mukasey had recused himself from the investigation into Bernard Madoff



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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 02:03 PM
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55. A Faustian bargain

He had a decent record as a jurist, often siding with the less advantaged in cases.

But then he was offered the keys to the kingdom. All he had to do was sell his soul
and work with a bunch of Regent University Law School graduates.

Easy choice, no? He went for the keys.

What a lost opportunity.
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 09:39 AM
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41. Kick
Edited on Sat Jan-17-09 09:48 AM by Hubert Flottz
:kick:

What's bad is when you look back on the Bullshit that the neocons fed the people in this country, you see that Baghdad Bob was more truthful than the Bush crew.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 08:13 PM
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81. Kick
:kick:
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bluesmail Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 10:15 AM
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44. Another political prisoner vindicated. n/t
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 10:29 AM
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47. Now we need to prosecute for drummed up charges on political prosecutions!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 04:37 PM
Response to Reply #47
77. As always
You're right there. I heard Dana Jill Simpson speak a few weeks ago. She outlined a national
plan to prosecute high level Dems and knock them out of the box politically (Siegelman, Musgrave,
Figer, etc.).

There's a plan that's been executed for the less visible, e.g., Susan Lindauer, which is much
cruder. It involves "identity theft" - incarceration - chemical torture - etc.

Investigate the use of DoJ to abuse citizens, all of them!
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:13 AM
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48. I can just imagine cheney sitting there, throwing fits, spazzing and spitting
threats and nastiness because someone had the audacity to tell the truth about Iraq while he was ginning up the reasons to kill innocent civilians. Can't you just picture those fuckers and their hysteria when they were reading her correspondence?
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northernlights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:46 AM
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50. the power of the pen...
Along with rebuilding her career, she's undertaking "some writing projects."

I see a mega-best selling tell-all in the future. Pay her legal fees, set her up for life and open everybody's eyes to what's been going on.

Un-fucking believable. Simply un-fucking believable. So they tried to force her onto Haldol until she lie for them. Un-fucking believable.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 01:22 AM
Response to Reply #50
69. Amen brother
Haldol produces a condition where individuals taking it can assume contorted positions for extended
periods of time. Some of those positions look a lot like the Abu Ghraib torture positions forced
on prisoners there. How convenient. They try it out "on the road" then bring it home in the form
of a pill.

She's a great writer and is quite prolific. Aloah Club Fed, hello Times Best Seller List (how
ironic).
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 04:47 PM
Response to Reply #69
79. haldol was the traditional punishment for Soviet regime critics, too
Edited on Sun Jan-18-09 04:48 PM by RainDog
can you answer a few questions for me?

why did they wait until 2004 to arrest her?

are you aware of any other source other than Scoop who covered this from the pov that she was not unstable? (I saw a little ap article but it ended with a neighbor declaring that she "lived in a fantasy world."

The information from the Comp. Sci prof at York said he said at trial that she had a "premonition" (his words) not a warning. Do you know of any other time that prof spoke about this?

It doesn't surprise me one bit in the least that the Bush regime imprisoned her and attempted to get court approval to drug her into oblivion, sadly. Who were the actual federal prosecutors who sought this ruling? Names - what level of authority they had, etc?

Because it seems to me that those people are guilty of a crime against humanity by their actions. I hope this case becomes the brick that shatters the wall of lawlessness that has been the Bush regime. Those in the military who agreed to hold her, imo, should also be removed from their positions.

I want names, in other words. I want the names of those who participated in this grotesque act.


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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 12:45 PM
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51. Dear lord, but the bushies had it in for this woman.
Geez.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 06:45 AM
Response to Reply #51
72. They did and they were relentless
But she stood her ground and that wrote the subsequent script.

Just the prospect of Eric Holder (an excellent choice) as A.G. overshadowed this case and
had to influence the dismissal of charges.

But the real reason a prosecution dismisses a case is, they DO NOT have a case. And they didn't.

She argued for an open trial from day one. Nothing.

Only under Bush could this have happened.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 12:54 PM
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53. Mod Mom is right. The perpetrators MUST be punished. If these people get away with
this stuff it will never stop.

One more investigation for our new AG.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #53
54. Here's what they did
This is very serious stuff. I tried to imagine how I'd react to all of this:

--charged like this when I knew it was a set up;

--humiliated in the press and called a "spy" when that was NEVER charged;

--told the last ten years of my life were a "delusion";

--imprisoned in the middle of an Air Force base for "delusions" because I claimed innocence;

--experiencing the major trauma of daily threats to give me Haldol, a drug that, if not needed,
melts your mind and causes Parkinson's Disease symptoms (which requires yet another major drug)

What an atrocious crime against an human being this is. It's a lesser crime against those
who know and love the person charged, but the suffering there is also palpable.

But this crime is also against all of us. It sets an example that says STFU.

Just read her letter, if you have not already, the one from the quotation. That was the activity
that Lindauer was charged with performing as an "unregistered agent" for Iraq. I'm sorry, but the
letter is a prediction of what happened.

In fact, the notice from Susan Lindauer, Ritter (look what they did to him), and others specifying
the hostility of the Iraqi people was something that had to be factored in to the equation. But
it wasn't because Cheney and others said we'd be welcomed with open arms. I wonder what part of
the 500,000 children five and under who died from lack of medicine during the embargo Cheney
missed. I wonder what part of the relentless, daily bombing and the destruction, injuries and
deaths Cheney missed. Open arms indeed.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:40 PM
Response to Reply #54
66. Cheney missed ALL OF THOSE PARTS because he didn't want to see them and didn't care
about them. He was accomplishing his goals by using his pawns, who just happen to be our military, our tax dollars, and us.

Cheney and his ilk don't do empathy. They only do winning and getting more power at any costs.

That son of a bitch should be hanged by the neck until dead for committing high treason. That would finally and permanently wipe the smirk off his evil mug.

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McCamy Taylor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 03:54 PM
Response to Original message
57. This is an excellent case for Holder to pursue of a US Citizen whose rights were trampled.
There are a whole bunch of lawyers at the DOJ who should lose their law licenses and be sent to jail. I will bet that there are others like this woman.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 08:42 PM
Response to Reply #57
82. Holder's shadow

Interesting coincidence, this office that had been so fearful of even a trial suddenly, at the last
minute, steps up and clears the case.

Holder is a professional and an excellent pick for A.G. He did the right thing.

I shudder to thinkwhat would have happened if McCain had won and his new attorney general, Ed
O'Callaghan (Lindauer'sprosecutor), got to deal with the case. O'Callaghan was in line for a high
justice position having thrown the monkey wrench in the Troopergate case in Alaska on assignment
from McCain.

These people need to leave the stage for good, never to return.

There are others, not bright enough on the radar to be done in with a public accusation like
Siegelman and Musgrave. They are the greatest victims of all because they are dealt with in a
fashion truly preferred by the Bush crew -- imprisonment.

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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 04:49 PM
Response to Original message
58. Let there be light -- more and more of it -- on the crimes of BUSHCO!!! nt
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williesgirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 05:35 PM
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59. Obama MUST allow prosecutions to go forward. This can't go unpunished or it'll be repeated. rec'd
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 04:33 PM
Response to Reply #59
75. He has no choice, it's up to the new Attorney General
Always has been. Actions will talk very loudly on this and other crimes of the gang that brought
us so low, the people who think that "consequences" are only for other people.

If there's a crime and it's ready to go to prosecution, it should not matter if it's Bush or some
minor functionary.

The people will not tolerate anything other than this approach, I'm convinced.

:hi:
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MasonJar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 06:01 PM
Response to Original message
60. I am way out of date on this case; however, it seems that she warned of 9/11.
That alone was dangerous for an administration which ignored all warnings.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 12:46 AM
Response to Reply #60
68. She did and that was confirmed by a highly credible source
There could have been more also if she'd had more resources to bring people in . Nevertheless,
at the first competency hearing, her witnesses confirmed quite a bit, including this.

She's got a host of information that will blow minds and educate. It's about time.
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Moosepoop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 07:44 PM
Response to Original message
64. Excellent! I'm kinda surprised, though
that Ms. Lindauer didn't meet with an "accident" or "suicide" immediately after receipt of her correspondence to Card. :tinfoilhat:

Now that she's out from under all this, I hope she's able to achieve a measure of justice for herself, whether through a judgment against the players involved, or through a "writing project" that will knock their collective dicks in the dirt.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 12:44 AM
Response to Reply #64
67. She's healthy and well.
I met with her tonight and we pulled up this DU thread, which she watched closely and enjoyed.

I have no doubt that she'll continue the fight to fully vindicate her name and work. She's got
lots of energy and is very bright. They couldn't destroy her. They've had their shot. Now...
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-18-09 12:08 PM
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74. Morning kick
:kick:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-09 01:19 AM
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85. Kick
:kick:
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-19-09 02:20 AM
Response to Original message
88. She must be a strong individual to stand up to this past admin, etc.
:kick:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 01:01 AM
Response to Reply #88
91. She took them on and never gave in.

That was her only path to survival. The Bush DoJ (sic) sought a court order from then Judge Mukasey
to force Haldol on her. This is an extremely strong drug. It is entirely inappropriate for any
condition other than schizophrenia which is not responsive to treatment by the current generation
of anti-psychotics. Those medicines generally lack the debilitating side effects of the Haldol
class drugs. For example, a side effect of Haldol is symptoms of Parkinson's Disease. You have to
take an anti Parkinson's medication on top of the Haldol. The Haldol, itself, will numb you mind
to the point where you're a zombie if you're not suffering from schizophrenia. Once it gets in your
system, you start assuming contorted postures, involuntarily, that mimic those used to torture
prisoners in Iraq.

She prevailed against the very worst forces in the country. You couldn't find more than 0.001% of
the population that would endorse this treatment. But MSM dropped the story and showed general
indifference. She was on her own largely but with some help she managed to make it work. Who
ever won against these monsters? Not many.

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 12:52 AM
Response to Original message
90. Kick for the new era when people can tell the truth without getting sent
to a federal pen.

:kick:
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 09:21 AM
Response to Original message
93. It's Over
Hard to take in. Imagine what she must feel
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 12:42 PM
Response to Reply #93
94. And the perpetrators are over too
Cheney in a wheel chair, Bush seeing the manifestation of decency and intellect with millions
in the Capitol to celebrate while their supporters are no intrigued by the possibility of progress
in the context of the very best of our political traditions.

She survives them but made them apologize before before they left. How appropriate.

This administration will not lock people away for trumped up charges and use psychiatric
lies to justify it. That much I know.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 07:32 PM
Response to Reply #94
95. Michele Brought A Gift For Laura To The WH
That visual said all you need to know about these people. Needless to say Laura was stunned and didn't know what to do.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-20-09 08:25 PM
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96. I know
Give it to the royal food taster.
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