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Phred42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 10:26 AM
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Bush appointees to Justice Department: We won't go
Easy to solve. Reassign them - to gitmo, Gaza, Iraq, Alaska :evilgrin:

Bush appointees to Justice Department: We won't go
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Bush_U.S._attorneys_to_Justice_Dept._0116.html

George W. Bush will leave the White House for good on Tuesday, but two controversial U.S. attorneys appointed by him have no intention of leaving the Justice Department.

U.S. Attorney Mary Beth Buchanan of Pittsburgh, a member of the conservative Federalist Society who is close to former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum, pledged last month to remain in her post.

And U.S. Attorney Alice Martin of Birmingham, whose conduct has been the subject of repeated investigations by Congress and the Justice Department’s ethics office, several of which are still pending, will stay on in her post, The Daily Beast reported Friday.
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The Magistrate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 10:28 AM
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1. They Will Go, Sir: They Serve At The Pleasure Of The President....
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 10:41 AM
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4. I think I'll fax them both a reminder on Tues:
"You serve at the Pleasure of the President"

Mary Beth Buchanan,Pittsburgh Office
fax # (412) 644-4549

Alice Martin, Birmingham Office
fax # (205) 244-2171
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roamer65 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:10 AM
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9. Bingo. They will leave whether they like it or not.
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liberalhistorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:28 AM
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11. Oh, but. but, but.........but that only
Edited on Sat Jan-17-09 11:29 AM by liberalhistorian
applies to democrats, doncha know that by now??/
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 01:07 PM
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22. And that's the end of this thread.
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merh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 10:33 AM
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2. Oh, they should really go, really, they should
they need to take the time to enjoy their lives before they have to defend their abuses of office.

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billybob537 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 10:35 AM
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3. More childish Wingnuts
Just what chimpy needs to look even more we todd Ed
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 10:42 AM
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5. their arrogance knows no boundaries
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 10:52 AM
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6. I'm a lot more concerned about the (minimum extimate) 63 civilian hires lurking there
It seems to me that the real problem is the idiologicaly correct civilian hires that are burried deep in the Justice Department. They've had 8 years to move up the chains of command, 8 years from now they will be in charge of all of the various divisions and departments. Those are the people who have to be identified and assigned to posts deep in Nebraska and Montana.
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BlueMTexpat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:01 AM
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7. Hey ... puleeze don't inflict them on Montana!
What did Montana ... or Nebraska, for that matter ... ever do to deserve them?

Just let them go and stand in an employment line somewhere, unless there are charges that can be proven against them (could be, after all), in which case they can be gainfully employed making license plates or doing laundry.

And yes, I concur wholeheartedly that it's not just the political appointees who needed to be weeded out ... and not only from the DOJ.

:fistbump:
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:01 AM
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8. Agree, they are everywhere in every department. No wonder the Chimp still smirks
he knows his moles are everywhere and will be hard to get out because of the career civil service rules.

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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:33 AM
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14. Do civil service rules require them to remain in their current
positions?
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 12:32 PM
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17. if they are political appointees, they have no civil service protections
they can be fired for drinking the wrong soda.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 12:35 PM
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18. What I've read is that the lower level folks Bush put in can't be removed.
Civil Service means there have to be legal causes for removal. Drinking the wrong soda probably wouldn't do it, sadly.
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blaze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 12:51 PM
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19. But maybe they could be reassigned?
To toothless jobs that they hated and would want to quit?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 01:49 PM
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23. It's possible...and maybe they will feel so uncomfortable working for a new boss
they will leave on their own. But, some will stay just to muck things up. Still...we must have hope.
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 02:53 PM
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26. Bush can't put in civil service employees
and that's not who we are talking about here. we are talking about US Attorneys and political appointees. legally they have no protection comparable to civil service.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 01:04 PM
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20. Those aren't the ones I mean - I mean the ones they hired
The appointees got to hire regular civil servants and they illegally hired based on political conviction. Not those little politically correct hires are GS-13's and such but 8 years from now they will be GS-15's and in charge of not only hiring of like minded people but also of the various departments and branches and all the little nooks and crannies of Government.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 09:21 PM
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28. Exactly...it's the ones they hired...that will be there forever...n/t
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:15 AM
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10. They need to put the moles in plain white rooms with a chair & table & nothing more..
no phones, no outside communications. They must report there daily. Its not illegal but it sure marginalizes and isolates them.
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:35 AM
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15. That is a good idea
Use an abandoned airplane hanger in the boonies somewhere. Supply electricity and running water. A single phone and a single fax line/machine. Both monitored. Check up on them periodically and unexpectedly. Anyone not at their post is AWOL. If they are asleep, grounds for discipline and eventual dismissal. The same for any other activities not allowed during working hours. Other than that, nothing for them to do.
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MiniMe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:31 AM
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12. How nice of them to volunteer to work without a salary
Cut their paychecks out. You don't get a paycheck after you are fired.
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11 Bravo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:32 AM
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13. Uhhh, yeah, actually you will.
The fucking second your President tells you to!
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tsuki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 11:38 AM
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16. Alice Martin should be disbarred. nt
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 01:04 PM
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21. Little repuke nazis n/t
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 02:46 PM
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24. They don't have a choice, do they?
They serve at the president's pleasure. If Obama wants them gone, they'll be gone.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 02:48 PM
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25. Come on now -- don't send them to Alaska.
We've got enough problems to deal with with Governor Princess.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-17-09 02:56 PM
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27. Easily solved problem - they're fired.
This isn't Gonzo's attorney-gate - Iglesias and co. were illegally fired for refusing to follow orders to break the law.

Obama doesn't have that problem. US Attorneys serve at the pleasure of the President, and he has every right to fire them for any reason that is not illegal. Including political reasons.
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